Zyella Stormborn wrote:Bernard 2007 wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:Bernard 2007 wrote:You know, most people can't post lossmails for multi-billion-isk-PVE ships. Because you know, they're not dumb enough to loose them. ;)
Heh! I'm not the first and I won't be the last
But you live and learn. At least they weren't NPC losses - imagine the shame!
Yeah, I noticed. But loosing a multi billion isk Raven in lowsec PVE is pure stupidity anyhow. Regardless of whether you loose it to pirates or NPCs. In fact, the only time one can ever excuse a loss like that is if the enemy has laid out a trap in advance. And by trap I mean trap, not gatecamp. For instance scanning down a lowsec plex, waiting for someone to come trying to solo it.
Bah. I lost my first Orca in low sec, moving stuff through. Pissing in the wind about someone losing a ship in low sec or 0.0 in a game like EVE, is like trying to laugh at a fish for getting eaten in the ocean. Its EVE, not everyone insists on only flying overly cheap ships, and sometimes people get caught in something expensive.
That has nothing to do with the 3 ships in L4 pve comparisons this thread started with. So please, don't derail it. Keep it on subject, and take this seemingly recurring flame war you are having to a more private forum.
I fly multi billion isk ships in lowsec and nullsec every single day, my entire blue list consists of something like 25-30 people and none of them live anywhere close to where I do atm. So I always fly in hostile territory. I often to plexes, and missions in hostile lowsec systems and I've been doing that for about a year straight now. Never loosing a single combat ship and coming close only a handful of times. And then to login traps and unexpeded meetings with roaming gangs on gates.
Now, looking at those killmails, they're recent. Only a couple of months old. And it's from a pilot that has over a year of experience previous to that. Fair enough, he's was a newbie two months ago, but he also still is. He doesn't have a clue about fitting nor does he have a clue about what ships are good or not. And in fact, the core of the problem is that he's too inexperienced to see that for himself.
And calling a fraud out for what he is, thats only fair.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14661734Here, now they're copied again.
And CNR is king! Golem has too low EHP!