You mean the moment that everyone and their mother joined Cal Mil to farm missions and then used the inflated numbers that the change brought to champion more changes because of the so called "imbalance" of "players" on the caldari side.


Sounds a lot like the amarr for the last few months doesn't it.

*sigh* please log in and play the game.

You must be the worst solo roamer in the history of Eve. Seriously.

I can get into a fight within 10 minutes of undocking.

Yes, but that's because I choose to engage people even if they have an initial advantage, even if it's 1 vs multiple targets. But YMMV. Since comets are cheap - even though I've done this with comets before Inferno, during inferno, and now after this latest patch, so inb4 you're "You're at Tier 4 so you can afford to have fun" whine post.

I'm the one with over 300 kills and losses each month - not you.

What is this **** about solo pvp? I think you are mistaking faction war for something else. You cannot make other people do what you want them to.

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Again, he said 10 min from undocking. Not every 10min. And trust me, he does pull it off. He'll log in for 30m on his lunch break from work and somehow net 2+ kills. Then silently logs back off.

This is an outright "alternate reality". A better measure is how quickly you can get into any decent fight - whether it is solo, small gang, or fleet. Why would you limit yourself to solo fights unless you were trying to emphasize a fictional problem to meet your warped view of FW?

Yes, it is a matter of mathematics. By excluding all but one category of pvp you can attempt to make a point that pvp is nearly impossible to get if you are a FW pilot. The fact is that being in good intel channels with active players and a willingness to engage are all that are needed to get fights quickly.

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15192946

Less than two minutes from undocking. Logged into Deven, had to make one jump into Fliet and then warp to minor plex. But it wasn't a good fight. I had my "loki-boosted, snake-set" Comet, warped into him at zero (I know, certain death right? But you know what they say - fortune favors the bold and all that) and had to burn away before getting scrammed.

Carry on.

Direct rebuttal to your argument perhaps? Carry on.

Another < 10 minute kill Yesterday as well. Log on, comms says "Celestis and griffins in Heyd", UNDOCK (the first key to getting fights quickly btw), warp to plex and engage Celestis, thought griffins were going to come but they didn't. Keres shows up late to *****. Technically not a 1v1, but a good fight filled with potential risk. Mutnin would be proud, but he doesn't play anymore either.

It is just so incredibly difficult to get fights in FW. I mean, I've been wasting like two minutes of my life setting up these fights! Why can't we get fights before we undock from station??!!! rageragerage!!!!!

I took the X G challenge and took a break from WoT - in under 2 hours I got 10 kills, 8 of those were solo (one has a few people on the kill that ninja'd well before I was on grid), the other two had a friend in a thrasher with me. All just me in the ol trusty thrasher, no boosts.

All fights except one were in FW plexes. I only had to roam in a 2 jump radius of my home system.

Seems like FW is alive and kicking to me.

I don't think its that much of an exaggeration Cearain. I get about the same amount of fights as XG, id say i would average 2/3 per hour as a minimum or i'll log off/go do something else for a bit.

- I have limited playtime, I do use boosts, and i am aggressive in the fights i go in for. Ill fight solo/pair, small gang or even bloob depending on what targets are available.

- i have access to 6-8 active intel channels i use with at least 4 of these bringing good quality intel, failing that i fly the loop Arzad > Sahtogas > Kam > Dal > Amamake > Arzad which rarely lets me down.

- Minnies have an excellent relationship between corps/alliances. Mostly, we share one TS server and the interaction between corps on that is brilliant. Ill often get someone jump into our channel to report activity or call for help etc or vice versa. If nothings going on in one channel ill jump in with some of the other corps or even just general militia.


I dont know the Amarr set up at all > but i get the impression (feel free to correct me) that the Amarr corps dont really work together as well as the Minnies (including comms and intel sharing). Maybe someone like Zarnak or Saly could comment having seen both sides of the coin.

I'm not saying that everything XG is saying is true, but you may be losing out on some fights as he says due to lack of intel/faction cohesion.

In my experience, i agree with Chatgris and XG, i really dont think its that bad at the minute. (IMHO).



As a complete sidenote > Kam/kourm/Auga was BUZZING last night. I get the feeling activity is ramping up again pre-patch.....

Nothing you say will convince him that's he's wrong. He can't get fights and so he assumes that nobody can get them. I stated I can get fights (not kills) within 10 minutes of logging on and he said "No way". Several case studies over the last two days shows otherwise, but they are then dismissed as a "fluke". Whatever. Carry on. chatgris showed him that he can get lots of fights over a two hour period yesterday, but "that is not statsitically significant".

So, what'cha gonna do? Whatever.

The real audience in these posts is everybody else. You'll never convince Cearain he's wrong, but we do have a chance at convincing the readers that he is wrong. FW (and low sec) is great for casual pvp. If you want to null bear it up and pay your 0.0 overlords rent, go ahead. If you want pvp, come to FW low sec.

Ahhhh man, i wanna see the ''multiple forum violations''.....

It sounds like someone got two personal attacks within 20 minutes of logging onto the forums, and that is definitely statistically significant.

Cearain > Give me a shout if your in the Huola/Kourm area, i'm not a big fan of arranged PvP but a couple of 1v1's would be good fun (no boosts i promise!) o7

My sincere aplogies to Cearain. I doubted that you actually logged into the game, but your killboard says otherwise.
Kills in October and November

No wonder you're complaining so much. Come to Fliet for the next couple of days. The pirates here are very active and you can get fights within 10 minutes of logging on. Almost guaranteed. And there are plenty of FDU guys who will try to kill you as well.