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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2012.11.09 16:35:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Remove the tier rewards from FW missions. Right now you can get a ******** amount of LP by doing missions while not affecting warzone control at all. So you get more LP with less risk. Removing the tier system for missions benefit those who fight in plexs and bust bunkers and will rise the prices of the current crashed and flooded FW market, letting the PVP'ers earn more.
What about the PVPers who run missions? |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.11.09 20:45:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:You still shouldn't be able to make 300k+ LP an hour, any way you look at it.
because...?
I agree missions should be more of a conflict driver which I think is how they were intended and I hate farmers as much as anyone else but I don't think you can just say 'You shouldn't be able to make 300k LP/hr from missions'
Also missions have always been far more profitable than plexing, it seems odd that this is brought up now, not 6 months ago. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.11.10 09:51:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:The LP multiplier for missions is rubbish. And yes, making 310k LP/hour for an activity that doesn't help the occupancy war is not right.
Ok accepting your first few points here, but this is just silly, what if 310k LP is only worth 10m? do you still have a problem with it then? There seems to be an attitude of 'OMG big number, that must be wrong' Even though mission runners are now earning a small fraction of what was possible pre-patch.
Since when did LP have to be about occupancy, it has only been a blink of the eye in FW history where they had any relation what so ever and now suddenly they are strictly tied. I'd rather LP was completely separate then the farmers don't ruin the occupancy war.
Deen Wispa wrote:This is too much LP. It has had an negative impact on the Gallente FW store as well. Practically everything has tanked.
Wow. It's almost like the market is regulating the amount people earn based on the availability of LP.
In this thread: Lots of people who base their arguments on 100k LP worth 1k /LP is different to 25k LP worth 4k/LP.
And no I haven't run a mission since the update and I don't have much intention to do so. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 14:33:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Yes - because mission running is a purely pve activity, no way for the opposing side to fail your mission (you can reject the one pickup missions that pays crap), and it makes far far more LP than the pvp activities (plexing).
Fair enough, I always understood it as LP from kills and plexing where just to help you along with the intention of missions being an income source.
I still maintain it would be better if none of it gave LP and missions were the only income source, funnily enough that was when plexing gave the best fights. At least then you could ignore people who were farming and you knew when someone was plexing they wanted a fight, now the two are far too blurred. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:00:00 -
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chatgris wrote:It pretty much boils down to more people in pvp ships more of the time means more pvp.
Of course that is the ideal, I just don't think it is really viable. Hence I'm happy to accept the next best option where at least farming doesn't have a negative impact on PVP.
A) PVP pays for itself and yields GFs, but somehow farmers can't ruin it
B) PVPers PVP and farmers farm through 2 separate mechanics
C) Farmers inundate the 'PVP' areas for profit resulting in everyone being bored.
We have taken the step up from C to B, but I don't see how you can get A without people exploiting it. I don't see why we need to be paid for PVP anyway, it's not like that is directly the case in the rest of Eve.
To make an analogy to null, we fight for sovereignty which gives our pilots the ability to make money from ratting/anoms (missions) |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 11:00:00 -
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I accept there is more PVP occurring now, I do not believe it is because of LP for plexes. There are more plexes now, because they don't just spawn at DT and there are more people in the militias, this is driving more PVP not the LP rewards for plexes.
I think the chance of getting a fight on a per plex per pilot basis is far far lower than it was when we had the post-DT plexing system, I don't have any numbers to back this up but I think the majority would agree with me (well those that play on the same server anyway)
Also I have little interest in ganking people who are trying to make money, as they are a pain in the ass to catch and result in a boring fight. |
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