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Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.10 06:32:00 -
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Damar Rocarion wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:No one did missions in pre-Inferno? What are you smoking? he is referring to "old times" when missions gave crappy lp and actual conversion ratio in lp store was pretty bad. Then came Gallente sponsored Ankh CSM and that's pretty much the moment FW started going wrong. You mean the moment that everyone and their mother joined Cal Mil to farm missions and then used the inflated numbers that the change brought to champion more changes because of the so called "imbalance" of "players" on the caldari side.
Sounds a lot like the amarr for the last few months doesn't it. |
Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.10 11:21:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:This is too much LP. It has had an negative impact on the Gallente FW store as well. Practically everything has tanked. Wow. It's almost like the market is regulating the amount people earn based on the availability of LP. No, what it is, is all the '1337' PvP'ers complaining because they aren't making as much money as they were before inferno from running their missions. It is a simple case of buyers remorse. They championed change because they couldn't compete with the CALALT army in the first iteration of FW change, and they are crying again because now their LP isn't worth as much as when missions were the only way to gain LP.
Here is a hint Deen, EVERYTHING has tanked and you have only your factions crying and complaining to blame.
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Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.10 12:39:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Schalac wrote:Damar Rocarion wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:No one did missions in pre-Inferno? What are you smoking? he is referring to "old times" when missions gave crappy lp and actual conversion ratio in lp store was pretty bad. Then came Gallente sponsored Ankh CSM and that's pretty much the moment FW started going wrong. You mean the moment that everyone and their mother joined Cal Mil to farm missions and then used the inflated numbers that the change brought to champion more changes because of the so called "imbalance" of "players" on the caldari side. Sounds a lot like the amarr for the last few months doesn't it. I don't know about other amarr. But this amarr always prefered economic balance and the good fights it brings, over trillions of isk making the war lopsided. We could have had everything pvp, money to pvp, and balance. But CCP started out by just throwing tons of money at their new feature before making mechanics changes to increase the balance and pvp. This brought some exta pvp due to the sheer number of people farming isk in the same place. But now that the isk is drying up and most of the noobs are leaving we just have an unbalanced war with a bunch of other changes casual pvpers hate. Null style station lock outs, and soon we will have to spam the dscan button like the oc wh dwellers everytime we run a plex in a busy system. Lets face it, all our hopes that ccp would turn fw plexing into this awesome crazy pvp mechanic were completely misguided. Instead of making plexing a pvp mechanic they turned it into a more annoying form of pve. Except that the way the plex mechanic worked at the start of Inferno was the same mechanic that was around for years. All they did was added LP for completing them. How people thought that this was going to drive more PvP is beyond me. There was a thread in 2010 or 2009 about how to fix plexing and before there was even talk about getting LP for it that was like 20+ pages. Yet CCP, as always, took a look at the main complaint, the frogs saying that there is no point in plexing because it doesn't mean anything and you get nothing from it, and they were plenty vocal about it too. While all of the good ideas are tossed aside and look who is the main ones complaining again...those damned frogs. Except this time they are complaining that it is too easy to make LP.
I just can't wait to see what is going to happen when DUST starts to count towards system control as well. I wonder if you will get LP that will be transferable to EVE items. |
Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:51:00 -
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HTFU |
Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:48:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Schalac wrote: Except that the way the plex mechanic worked at the start of Inferno was the same mechanic that was around for years. All they did was added LP for completing them. How people thought that this was going to drive more PvP is beyond me.
It's beyond Cearain too. Unfortunately for you both, PVP has picked up quite a bit since they implemented the LP for plexes policy. Check the killboards. Do you want to know why? People are farming plexes in pvp ships - more people are out in space and available for fights when they occur. (They are not out of theater or in pve ships trying to make isk) I plex the same way now that I did 3 years ago. Yet I still don't have people come at me unless they have a 3 or 4 to 1 advantage. So no, I don't see a boost to PvP from adding LP to plexes. And honestly I think that once the 4th rolls along I will have even less people come at me because I will have 4-5 armor AC pests sitting right on the warp in because I won't have to fly 70 KM to cap the point. So when that happens once again it will be gank squads of 20-30 frogs jumping my fleet saying GF... which isn't PvP. |
Schalac
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Posted - 2012.11.12 16:33:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:There there bm, the myan calander doesnt really predict the end of the world, it predicts the end of the Caldari militia! I get it now. And from the ashes the Ghosts of Black Rise shall be born. |
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