Demangel
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Posted - 2005.04.14 16:35:00 -
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Big mistake made in this thread... Whenever your trying to make an argument for something, do not use something potentialy controvesial as the best example of why your right... unless your trying to be controversial.
That is to say, making alts visible isn't a very controversial argument by comparison to tag teaming it scamming. while some may feel strongly one way or the other, it's not the same as saying scamming should be bannable (which you didn't I know). I for example don't feel scamming should be bannable unless it uses exploits or some other more or less unintended method.
But heres something I havn't seen said (I only scanned the thread sorry). Something I find myself saying a LOT lately... Just for different issues each time... *sigh... CCP*
Back before the game was released, the question of alts came up a LOT. Especialy in relation to corp theft etc.
Basically people wanted thier cake and to be able to eat it too, Ie multiple chartacters on one account, but with some way of policing alt abuse.
CCP had the rather ingenius solution which they stated in the old old old Faq for the game way before this site was put up to replace the old:
Alts:
Players will be able to have up to three characters per account. However only one character per account will be able to train a skill at a time, and a CEO or other high ranking officer of a corp will be able to see who those alts are, from the application phase, and after (as in through an in game mechanic, which could be used when you apply, and anytime after for as long as your in thier corp). Thus people are encouraged to be careful with how they use thier alts, but will not be limited to just one character either.
Granted i am inferring some of the details here, but thats the gist of what they seemed to be saying when they said that people would not be able to hide behind alts because players could see who you alt was.
This IMHO wouldn't make a dent in the alt scamming, but really you can't argue about alt scamming without making an issue out of scamming itself... To be honest if EVERYONE could see your alts without being a CEO and without you in or trying to get in thier corp, it would open up a different can of worms from what we have. Not only would the scammers have to live in fear, but we all would, and for no good reason.
It would be bad enough if a CEO/recruiter could see your alts with just a click on the right menu... they could of course sell that info if they wanted... But thats all part of the trust both parties need to build up, and a respectable corp wouldn't do this. And would likewise only hire respectable players.
In fact MOST big/good corps already require you to send in a screenshot of your character select screen. It's not foolproof, but it cuts down a LOT on abuses such as corp theft spying and so on by making one more hurdle they need to hop over to reach the goal of being an ass.
It doesn't however, deal with alt scamming, which in all honesty, while it sucks I think it's here to stay, even if CCP DOES finaly live up to thier promised and put in a feature ceo's and recruiters can use to check alts IN GAME, both durring the recruitment process, and after. There Is a security officer role after all... I'd say that player and the CEO at the very least should be able to have such an option by default.
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
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