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Chainer's advocate
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:29:00 -
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Hi, I need to know if heavy assault ships like the Cerberus and the Eagle get full insurance?
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Grut
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:33:00 -
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same kindof insurance as for inties... mineral cost, ie not much
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:33:00 -
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sacriledge cost 5 mills and pays out around 17 mills makes loose of 64 mills if popps for me
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Sabine Borgia
sacriledge cost 5 mills and pays out around 17 mills makes loose of 64 mills if popps for me
Yup, last payout on my Sacrilege (not that I lost one, mind you  ) was 17 million.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:56:00 -
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INsure payout was 17mil for 5 on my first, my second and my third deimos. So think it's safe to say, it's 5mil for 17mil payout ;)
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R Dan
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Posted - 2005.04.15 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
INsure payout was 17mil for 5 on my first, my second and my third deimos. So think it's safe to say, it's 5mil for 17mil payout ;)
Yup, thats what I get when my 80 mill+ (+mods too of course) Deimos goes pop too..... all in all a great payout....... right?......
Bite me....for i taste good :)
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.04.15 10:06:00 -
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Yep, makes you wonder why your flying the most expensive ship to lose in the game. Then you remember how much fun it was, and how cool you felt, so you imediatly buy anouther.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.04.15 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Yep, makes you wonder why your flying the most expensive ship to lose in the game. Then you remember how much fun it was, and how cool you felt, so you imediatly buy anouther.
Lol yeah
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.04.15 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 15/04/2005 10:34:30
before i fly any hac i make sure i have a spare in the garage to avoid having to queue again :/
theres no point imho insuring them at all, the payouts a further insult to losing the ship..
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.04.15 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 15/04/2005 10:34:30
before i fly any hac i make sure i have a spare in the garage to avoid having to queue again :/
theres no point imho insuring them at all, the payouts a further insult to losing the ship..
well 17mils better than a kick in the teeth ffs
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Haematite
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Posted - 2005.04.15 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 15/04/2005 10:34:30
before i fly any hac i make sure i have a spare in the garage to avoid having to queue again :/
theres no point imho insuring them at all, the payouts a further insult to losing the ship..
well 17mils better than a kick in the teeth ffs
And in Most cases will pay for the next set of Guns and mods.
Thats the way i look at my Elite ship insurance.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.04.15 12:51:00 -
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T2 ships are expensive because the producers have an monopoly and starbases arent producing enough parts to keep up with demand (yet).
Personally 50-60mil losses arnt thad bad on a T2 ship compaired to the average battleship loss 
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.04.15 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Yep, makes you wonder why your flying the most expensive ship to lose in the game. Then you remember how much fun it was, and how cool you felt, so you imediatly buy anouther.
Aye, I remember when I lost my first Deimos, I thought to myself, "Ah well, I can live without one for a few days/weeks" - but after about an hour, I was so sick and tired of bumbling around in a hulking Battleship, I immediately made a bee-line for Empire space and bought me another - at an inflated price of course!
Having read a BDCI post about them, HAS cost as much to replace as a Battle-cruiser when produced internally - a lot of it is due to the insane demand, especially when people order batches, or wait for one as they train up the skills. A Covert Ops ship with a COCD II was apparently worth 100m in parts when it came out, but now you can get both for 25-30m, despite the fact that the manufacturors swore on their mother's grave that they cost the former!
17 million is a bit of an arse considering how much you shelve out for the weapon systems, but as someone has already said, it's better than a kick in the teeth - and at least it stops too many carebears from taking them out for a spin...
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.04.15 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Lorth
Yep, makes you wonder why your flying the most expensive ship to lose in the game. Then you remember how much fun it was, and how cool you felt, so you imediatly buy anouther.
Aye, I remember when I lost my first Deimos, I thought to myself, "Ah well, I can live without one for a few days/weeks" - but after about an hour, I was so sick and tired of bumbling around in a hulking Battleship, I immediately made a bee-line for Empire space and bought me another - at an inflated price of course!
Having read a BDCI post about them, HAS cost as much to replace as a Battle-cruiser when produced internally - a lot of it is due to the insane demand, especially when people order batches, or wait for one as they train up the skills. A Covert Ops ship with a COCD II was apparently worth 100m in parts when it came out, but now you can get both for 25-30m, despite the fact that the manufacturors swore on their mother's grave that they cost the former!
17 million is a bit of an arse considering how much you shelve out for the weapon systems, but as someone has already said, it's better than a kick in the teeth - and at least it stops too many carebears from taking them out for a spin...
Well, you have to take into account the pain-in-the-arse quality of gathering tech 2 components. Have you tried doing a BYOC for a HAC? Now imagine doing that 5-6 times a week. They're expensive because they are a pain in the booty to make.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.04.15 14:29:00 -
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Why do people always come out with the OMG price hogging or whatever. I've lost several, and I think the prices are fair enough. They're a pain to build. And they're worth their cost in fun value to me.
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R Dan
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Posted - 2005.04.15 14:35:00 -
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LOL aye,
I've lost a couple of Deimos's but after losing the first one and having to wait a couple of days I always have a spare one in the hanger before taking mine out into hardcore PvP.
But I've got addicted to them! I just cant get enough of HAC's I've got 4 now... Cerby, Munnin, Deimos and Ishtar.
all have good points and bad - but they all rock in one way or another!
Bite me....for i taste good :)
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piercer
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Posted - 2005.04.15 14:39:00 -
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I dont think its calculated by the mins/componants price whoever said that.
Tech II get a 110% insurance cover i think, and thats all.
sacrilage/zealot - 5mil-ish insurance - 17mil-ish payout
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.04.15 14:57:00 -
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they cost around 30-40mil to build, depending on what u can get the components for. The main reason they are expensive is cos it takes 36 hours to build them which keeps demand extremely high. You can put 1 on market in yulai at 100mil and it will sell within the hour easily. Why sell em for 60mil when u can quite happily put em on at 100?
Supply and demand people 
Oh, and yes it is nice having the MC being able to build them 
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.04.15 17:23:00 -
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i do find it amusing when people complain about hte high cost of tech 2 ships :P
they seem to think that because the parts cost (say) 30mill, the producers should happily add on 10% or so, and call it a day... thing is, theres nothing the producers can do about it. if my corp was to put 10 cerberi on the market today, for 35mill each, theyd all immediately get bought up by one person, who would then sell them on at approximately 100% profit (or something like that, dont know prices these days) just for the effort of buying them and putting them up for sale again...
erm... i'm sure i was going somewhere with this... cant see where now tho... so to finish up:
Tech 2 ships = expensive. live with it.
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2005.04.15 18:30:00 -
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Unfortunately, due to a 'Player Driven Economy', it is excedingly hard for CCP to introduce insurance for Tech 2 ships.
Just like everything else in Eve, don't fly what you can't afford to replace.
Make a difference
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.04.15 18:48:00 -
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I hope they leave it as it is.. Tech2 ruins tech1. Give t1 users a reason to fly their ships.
make my ferox obsolete and I will be ****ed 
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.04.15 18:55:00 -
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i want prices for tech 2 to decrease, not for insurance to increase. i'd hope that by the time we see tech 3 around the place, something like a HAC will only cost about the insurance price.
Yes, it will be better than tech 1 stuff of the same value, but so it should be. its advanced tech.
3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.15 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shimatu
i want prices for tech 2 to decrease, not for insurance to increase. i'd hope that by the time we see tech 3 around the place, something like a HAC will only cost about the insurance price.
Yes, it will be better than tech 1 stuff of the same value, but so it should be. its advanced tech.
Well with the lower upkeep POS and people getting T2 comp ingredients instead of the comps themselves should push down the prices a bit (hopefully). Until people in empire can get access to morphite yielding ore though the prices will still be higher than they should.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.04.15 19:25:00 -
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Er?
There's now ADDED COMPLEXITY.
This increases prices. Allways.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.04.15 21:45:00 -
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You have to expect to pay a "premium" for a status symbol of any type. I think it's fair to say that HAC are status symbols for people who thrive on pvp and are good enough at it to sustain, econonmically, this little expensive platform!
8 days to HAC skill 5 for me. 
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General Murder
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Posted - 2005.04.15 22:10:00 -
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The problem are not the tech II components nor the insurance. It is the R&D system, the lottery and in the end the monopoly it encourage (high prices...)
The game needs more BPO or an other R&D system (the first is realistic)
As the player base growth, the numnber of BPO should also rise or the prices will rise.
Maybe in 1 year we will have a better R&D system
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