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bailies clone
Saint Kitten
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:53:00 -
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Here's a question : is it possible to travel between two systems without using a gate? |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
1085
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:54:00 -
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No
www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Mealka
The Power Of My Sword
Independent Antec Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:55:00 -
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Yes.
1. Must be in a capital ship.
2. Must be in 0.4 or less.
3. You need CYNO  |
Shaishi Otichoda
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:04:00 -
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Mealka wrote:Yes. 1. Must be in a capital ship. 2. Must be in 0.4 or less. 3. You need CYNO
or blackops and covert cyno. Still need cannot be done in hisec, though. |
Shaishi Otichoda
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:05:00 -
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bailies clone wrote:Here's a question : is it possible to travel between two systems without using a gate?
Set your medical to your destination station and either get podded or selfdestruct. Works fine for low skills FW mission whores or cyno alts.
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ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
868
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:54:00 -
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Well this is awkward...
"No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic." |
Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:57:00 -
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Jump Cloning
Pod Jumping
Jumping to Cynos
All three of these seem to contradict "No".
Jade Constantine, self-made space harlot. News at 11.
http://bit.ly/LTW5gW |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
149
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:59:00 -
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Shaishi Otichoda wrote:Mealka wrote:Yes. 1. Must be in a capital ship. 2. Must be in 0.4 or less. 3. You need CYNO or blackops and covert cyno. Still need cannot be done in hisec, though.
Jump Freighters (only from high sec though)
http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
213
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:05:00 -
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Those are all fine ways to get from one system to the next, but you're always in one system or the other, never between them.  |
Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:29:00 -
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I know if you run the numbers it would take an impossibly long time to fly between any two systems even with the fastest of ships, but is it theoretically possible? Probably not, but idk... (yells) DEVS?!?! |
Glasgow Dunlop
Gigaverse
The Imperial Senate
8
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:31:00 -
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jump bridges |
Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:03:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:I know if you run the numbers it would take an impossibly long time to fly between any two systems even with the fastest of ships, but is it theoretically possible? Probably not, but idk... (yells) DEVS?!?!
Not possible. The gates are needed to register session changes between systems. Even if you got to the next system you wouldn't register as being there because you are technically in the first one still. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:04:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:I know if you run the numbers it would take an impossibly long time to fly between any two systems even with the fastest of ships, but is it theoretically possible? Probably not, but idk... (yells) DEVS?!?!
I'm not dev, but I think no. First, I can hardly imagine what amount of computation power should servers have to handle unified coordinates. Second, I believe that people used to fly quite deep in space using certain glitches. They even got to Jove space (in terms of how far they were from the sun they jumped to prior to starting go deeper). Yet technically they never left local, never left original system. Think their position was still "System N, coordinates (X, Y, frekhuegZ)". |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
288
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:53:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:I know if you run the numbers it would take an impossibly long time to fly between any two systems even with the fastest of ships, but is it theoretically possible? Probably not, but idk... (yells) DEVS?!?!
I seem to remember someone did this a very long time ago, before the Nano/speed nerfs. Because of the lack of session state change I believe that there was nothing else there on grid or in space when they arrived.
The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
46
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:18:00 -
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bailies clone wrote:Here's a question : is it possible to travel between two systems without using a gate?
I dunno... get an MWD, double click on a random star, sit back and see what happens.
Lemme know how it goes, too.
I am 12 and what is this?? |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
44
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:18:00 -
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From a lore standpoint, you need something to home in on for warping. Over such a large distance, larger requirements means stargates become necessary. You could accelerate to extremely high speeds and travel as they originally would have (to get to a point to build a gate) but it'd take so long... it's kind of pointless. Need to draw a line between the game and real-life constraints eventually. :)
Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home.
-Cold Wind |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
478
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:20:00 -
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Shaishi Otichoda wrote:Mealka wrote:Yes. 1. Must be in a capital ship. 2. Must be in 0.4 or less. 3. You need CYNO or blackops and covert cyno. Still need cannot be done in hisec, though.
you can go from hi to lo, but that's it.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
LadyZelda
Stillwater Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:28:00 -
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Don't forget the ocassional wormhole that runs from one K-space system to another.
Salvation +ònryo - Capital builder of the Stillwater corporation |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
5463
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Posted - 2012.11.12 13:09:00 -
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Assuming you're talking about the conventional way of warping between them not possible as the systems has no borders and therefor cannot register a "system change". You can be put "You are here" on the map on top of another system by flying, however you will still be located in the space of the system you began in.
/c
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MrWhitei God
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
73
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Posted - 2012.11.12 13:25:00 -
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Chribba wrote:You can be put "You are here" on the map on top of another system by flying, however you will still be located in the space of the system you began in.
/c
This might not even be possible anymore due to the removal of deep safes. The systems have in effect been given a max size of the distance from the sun to the most far away celestial + some AU. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1128
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Posted - 2012.11.12 13:54:00 -
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In a past version of eve the star map and the solar system map were one map, and you got to one from the other by zooming. You could also warp to a signal found be a scan probe, even if it was less than 100% (you just went to the erroneous location). This made it all look like it would be possible to warp from one solar system to another. So someone tried it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUl3zNiW648
According to the map they got there. But the view from their ship did not show the new solar system. No "session change", no change of solar systems.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
blake fallout
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.12 14:02:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:In a past version of eve the star map and the solar system map were one map, and you got to one from the other by zooming. You could also warp to a signal found be a scan probe, even if it was less than 100% (you just went to the erroneous location). This made it all look like it would be possible to warp from one solar system to another. So someone tried it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUl3zNiW648According to the map they got there. But the view from their ship did not show the new solar system. No "session change", no change of solar systems.
Beat me to it  |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
5463
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Posted - 2012.11.12 14:14:00 -
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MrWhitei God wrote:Chribba wrote:You can be put "You are here" on the map on top of another system by flying, however you will still be located in the space of the system you began in.
/c This might not even be possible anymore due to the removal of deep safes. The systems have in effect been given a max size of the distance from the sun to the most far away celestial + some AU.
afaik there is still no border, the outer limit is where you can save things, but you can still mwd past that border, maybe even warp if someone finds a method to warp in a direction beyond the bm.
I remember the 1000AU TCU, I lol'ed.
/c
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March rabbit
Aliastra
262
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Posted - 2012.11.12 14:18:00 -
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theoretically there can be wormhole connecting 2 consecutive systems. Dunno if it is possible |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
441
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:29:00 -
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Alua Oresson wrote:Shaishi Otichoda wrote:Mealka wrote:Yes. 1. Must be in a capital ship. 2. Must be in 0.4 or less. 3. You need CYNO or blackops and covert cyno. Still need cannot be done in hisec, though. Jump Freighters (only from high sec though)
Actually any CAP ship that was grandfathered or accidentally put in HI SEC say by a ship reimbursment can CYNO out.
Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM |
Spurty
V0LTA
Verge of Collapse
562
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:37:00 -
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Worm holes
So yes very much possible
Gates are for noobs
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction
The Unforgiven Alliance
546
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:49:00 -
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Like others have stated, there used to be ways to...sort of, but not anymore. I don't even know why that kind of mechanic would be implemented 
I suppose I could understand the utility of a monstrously huge unarmed ship that was, in a sense, like a Titan only used for massive cargo hauling that used conventional FTL to travel around. It could be used to avoid enemy fleets, or simply work between stars as an untouchable manufactory...but the ramifications would be highly unbalanced and well, just adding something to the game for adding's sake is no bueno 
However, I personally would LOVE to have a light hugger to explore space between stars!
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Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
58
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Posted - 2012.11.12 19:10:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:I know if you run the numbers it would take an impossibly long time to fly between any two systems even with the fastest of ships, but is it theoretically possible? Probably not, but idk... (yells) DEVS?!?!
it would probably be impossible because theres no way to align to the next system, you dont know where it is and if we're talking even 10 lightyears then just 1 degree of heading will be like possibly dozens of au off course or more, yet another factor on top of the already mentioned impossibly slow travel time |
Sunglasses At Midnight
Concordiat
Tribal Band
2
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Posted - 2012.11.12 21:22:00 -
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This is why:
Let's take a real- world example, say, from Sol to Proxima Centauri. That's approximately 4.243 light years.
One Astronomical Unit is equal to about 5 light seconds, or around 149,597,871 kilometers.
One light year is about 9,460,528,400,000, or just under 9.5 trillion kilometers.
That being said, 1 LY is equal to about 63,240 AU. Ergo, 4.24 LY= 268,136.5 AU.
Here's a fit of a Crusader Interceptor, made for proficiency in warp. We're not even going to consider feeding the crew, or any logistical means, just distance and time spent.
[Crusader, Warp]
'Cartel' Power Diagnostic System I
'Cartel' Power Diagnostic System I
'Cartel' Power Diagnostic System I
'Cartel' Power Diagnostic System I
Small Capacitor Battery II
Small Capacitor Battery II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Small Warp Core Optimizer II
Small Warp Core Optimizer II
This ship can go 9 AU/s for a total distance of 4,055.2 AU at a time. Of course, the capacitor will recharge by the time it comes out of warp, so let's just assume you instantly go back into warp and there's no period of slowing down and accelerating again.
At 9 AU/s, traveling from Sol to Proxima Centauri would take about 29,793 seconds. That's equal to about 8 hours and 20 minutes, WITHOUT COUNTING STOPPING EVERY FOUR THOUSAND AU TO START AGAIN.
Now, I don't know about you, but I far prefer taking 5 seconds to use a gate, thank you very much. |
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.11.12 21:50:00 -
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Mealka wrote:Yes. 1. Must be in a capital ship. 2. Must be in 0.4 or less. 3. You need CYNO
Yes, but you still need a ship to light the cyno or a POS with a beacon.
Both of which, require a gate to get to
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