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Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:08:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Giving anyone the ability to buy killrights is a good mechanic. Giving anyone the ability to activate a 15 minute suspect timer on someone is not.
I still don't get why CCP thinks this is a good idea. Consequences, duuuh. You could say the exact same thing if buying the killright made CONCORD instantly arrive and blow up their ship, but that doesn't mean the consequences are good for the game.
Not good for the game, or not good for you personally? I am 12 and what is this?? |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
216
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I know I haven't posted in a couple of weeks due to the hurricane, but do you seriously don't remember what my viewpoints are?  I don't generally keep mental track of people's viewpoints on things. Some people are easier to remember than others. I'm sorry to say you're not one of them. Don't take it personally. :P This threadnaught might help refresh your memory.  |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1589
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:10:00 -
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New currency added. Blood isk. Its only a % displayed in your wallet. Its no more worthwhile than normal isk, and its counted with normal isk. But its ill-gotten tainted isk.
Its only use is to be recirculated into the market and eventually spread though any and all hands. Much like some small bills in your wallet could have been in a strippers woohah a month ago. Well this money was used to murder a target not get a lap dance... that's a different WIS currency.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1228
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:12:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE != tries sometimes to emulate real life Fixed. Some things are unrealistic do too game mechanics, others try to get it closer too realism. Again there is ample justification to go either way. Why is one way better then the other? You tell me. I'm not the one trying to make it so that CONCORD nullifies player bounty payouts.
Also, != means not equal to.
Remiel Pollard wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You could say the exact same thing if buying the killright made CONCORD instantly arrive and blow up their ship, but that doesn't mean the consequences are good for the game. Not good for the game, or not good for you personally? Obviously I'm only talking about myself since I live in that section of space where killrights actually mean something and CONCORD patrols the skies. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:12:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:New currency added. Blood isk. Its only a % displayed in your wallet. Its no more worthwhile than normal isk, and its counted with normal isk. But its ill-gotten tainted isk.
Its only use is to be recirculated into the market and eventually spread though any and all hands. Much like some small bills in your wallet could have been in a strippers woohah a month ago. Well this money was used to murder a target not get a lap dance... that's a different WIS currency.
Seriously or is this an idea stated as fact... ? |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1228
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:13:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I know I haven't posted in a couple of weeks due to the hurricane, but do you seriously don't remember what my viewpoints are?  I don't generally keep mental track of people's viewpoints on things. Some people are easier to remember than others. I'm sorry to say you're not one of them. Don't take it personally. :P This threadnaught might help refresh your memory.  Ah, yes, thank you. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1228
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:14:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:New currency added. Blood isk. Its only a % displayed in your wallet. Its no more worthwhile than normal isk, and its counted with normal isk. But its ill-gotten tainted isk.
Its only use is to be recirculated into the market and eventually spread though any and all hands. Much like some small bills in your wallet could have been in a strippers woohah a month ago. Well this money was used to murder a target not get a lap dance... that's a different WIS currency.
Seriously or is this an idea stated as fact... ? I guess I'm not the only one who completely misinterprets jokes around here. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:15:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: You tell me. I'm not the one trying to make it so that CONCORD nullifies player bounty payouts.
Sure. Bounties should be retaliatory, Assassination should not be CCP regulated.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1228
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:18:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: You tell me. I'm not the one trying to make it so that CONCORD nullifies player bounty payouts.
Sure. Bounties should be retaliatory, Assassination should not be CCP regulated. Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for? CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them. Including what many people here would consider "griefing". http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:22:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for? CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them. Including what many people here would consider "griefing".
Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.
Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.
You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3505
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:26:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for? CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them. Including what many people here would consider "griefing".
Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space. Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.
And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:32:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube
Lube? Since when did you start showing mercy? |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1477
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:36:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube
Lube? Since when did you start showing mercy? That type of mercy goes both ways. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:39:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: That type of mercy goes both ways.
You know the old saying. No pain... umm.. less other peoples pain..
I may have made that one up. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3505
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:44:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: That type of mercy goes both ways.
You know the old saying. No pain... umm.. less other peoples pain.. I may have made that one up.
Sometimes they have the right attitude about it... they realize that they can kick and scream all they want but... it's going to happen "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1228
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:54:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for? CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them. Including what many people here would consider "griefing".
Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space. Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around. You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed. So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1477
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:58:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for? CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them. Including what many people here would consider "griefing".
Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space. Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around. You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed. So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE. Who doesn't want that nowadays? The contemporary gamer is looking for a gentle, guided experience. The days of dropping a paycheck to beat Contra at the arcade are long gone. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Alara IonStorm
3443
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.
I haven't said I am in favor of anything, I am just working my way through the less mouth frothing talking points.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1893
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:01:00 -
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Wow guys I was just saying it would be funny, as in a bug on expansion release, if Concord voided bounty payments if the player was Concorded.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
218
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:11:00 -
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There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live. My predictions:
Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"
Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!" |
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fukier
Flatline.
130
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:32:00 -
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does standings have anything to do with bounty payout?
like if i am being attacked and my gang m8's put a point on me... will they get a portion of the payout?
point being might aswell get some isk from a lost ship... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
218
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:36:00 -
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fukier wrote:does standings have anything to do with bounty payout?
like if i am being attacked and my gang m8's put a point on me... will they get a portion of the payout?
point being might aswell get some isk from a lost ship... It will go to the final blow, so your buddy might be able to steal the entire bounty from them if he lands a volley of 1400's on you when you're deep in structure. |

Ze'jira Penshar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:02:00 -
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It'll still get abused somehow. Just watch. |

Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:23:00 -
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One order of Bounty Bait ships coming up! |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
188
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:42:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Dave stark wrote:if you randomly attack a player with a bounty in high sec (one that isn't a war target, or in any way criminally flagged), will concord still ruin your day? Yes. Example: you can bounty miners all day long, yet you will still get concorded when you attack. But you will actually get a bounty if you manage to kill them. I told you so... :-D
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
188
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:43:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live. My predictions:
Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"
Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!" Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
218
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:56:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live. My predictions:
Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"
Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!" Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer I think the point went way over your head. 
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
653
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:58:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Tried the new bounty system on Buckingham (the test server) yesterday. Its awesome. Freighter killed with a 500mil bounty on the pilot granted a 300mil payout. Blew up a megathron with a bountied pilot and a 20mil payout.
This is going to make bounty hunting interesting.
yk
Yes, yes it is.
Also, posting in another positive thread in GD. = ) "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
188
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Posted - 2012.11.13 06:40:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live. My predictions:
Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"
Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!" Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer I think the point went way over your head. 
a Miner just has to have some millions bounty on him. If you kill him in a T2 exhumer your loss is paid for by the bounty.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Herr Hammer Draken
156
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Posted - 2012.11.13 07:07:00 -
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The best part of all this is the 20% payout idea. Hmm only 1 player in 6 will be able to figure out that math. Simple as it is. So yes I see lots of complaints, I killed him for the bounty and only got X amount. If I had known ahead of time I would never have attack him. "CCP I demand my ship replaced or I quit." LMAO! Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |
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