if you randomly attack a player with a bounty in high sec (one that isn't a war target, or in any way criminally flagged), will concord still ruin your day?

if you randomly attack a player with a bounty in high sec (one that isn't a war target, or in any way criminally flagged), will concord still ruin your day?

Yes. Example: you can bounty miners all day long, yet you will still get concorded when you attack. But you will actually get a bounty if you manage to kill them.

Oh sh.1t, i best start carebearing my status up so i can continue to minez in peace.

bounty placement restriction of -1 sex status has been removed
anyone of any sex status can be bountied for any reason

you have been warned.

What if I don't have any sex at all? How will this affect me?

What if I don't have any sex at all? How will this affect me?

Exported kill rights mean you can't be sure who comes for you when you pop the noob in a low sec mission hub though.

It was possible to have your kill rights in a watch list and know you could make that jump to Jita because they were all off line.

Not any more

Exported kill rights mean you can't be sure who comes for you when you pop the noob in a low sec mission hub though.

It was possible to have your kill rights in a watch list and know you could make that jump to Jita because they were all off line.

Not any more

Giving anyone the ability to buy killrights is a good mechanic.
Giving anyone the ability to activate a 15 minute suspect timer on someone is not.

I still don't get why CCP thinks this is a good idea.

Consequences, duuuh.

You could say the exact same thing if buying the killright made CONCORD instantly arrive and blow up their ship, but that doesn't mean the consequences are good for the game.

GB2WOW you belligerent undesirable.

GB2WOW you belligerent undesirable.

Gonna laugh my ass off if being Concorded voids bounty payouts like insurance.

Yeah, I thought you were serious there for a minute. My mistake.

Where did the "belligerent undesirable" meme come from?

Why should it?

Consequences, duuuh.

I know I haven't posted in a couple of weeks due to the hurricane, but do you seriously don't remember what my viewpoints are?

Why shouldn't it?

Durrrr, but they're changing war-decs again because some leet pvpers couldn't handle a few consequences.

Why would CONCORD prevent a third party player to player contract from being fulfilled?

Because it was earned by committing a crime. Like if someone pays you too kill a man they don't let you keep the money.

EVE != tries sometimes to emulate aspects of real life

EVE != real life

You could say the exact same thing if buying the killright made CONCORD instantly arrive and blow up their ship, but that doesn't mean the consequences are good for the game.

I don't generally keep mental track of people's viewpoints on things. Some people are easier to remember than others. I'm sorry to say you're not one of them. Don't take it personally. :P

Fixed.

Some things are unrealistic do too game mechanics, others try to get it closer too realism.

Again there is ample justification to go either way. Why is one way better then the other?

Not good for the game, or not good for you personally?

New currency added.
Blood isk. Its only a % displayed in your wallet.
Its no more worthwhile than normal isk, and its counted with normal isk. But its ill-gotten tainted isk.

Its only use is to be recirculated into the market and eventually spread though any and all hands. Much like some small bills in your wallet could have been in a strippers woohah a month ago. Well this money was used to murder a target not get a lap dance... that's a different WIS currency.

This threadnaught might help refresh your memory.

Seriously or is this an idea stated as fact... ?

You tell me. I'm not the one trying to make it so that CONCORD nullifies player bounty payouts.

Sure. Bounties should be retaliatory, Assassination should not be CCP regulated.

Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for?
CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them.
Including what many people here would consider "griefing".

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.

And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube

Lube? Since when did you start showing mercy?

That type of mercy goes both ways.

You know the old saying. No pain... umm.. less other peoples pain..

I may have made that one up.

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.

You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed.

So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.

So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.

does standings have anything to do with bounty payout?

like if i am being attacked and my gang m8's put a point on me... will they get a portion of the payout?

point being might aswell get some isk from a lost ship...

Yes. Example: you can bounty miners all day long, yet you will still get concorded when you attack. But you will actually get a bounty if you manage to kill them.

There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live.
My predictions:

Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"

Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!"

Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer

Tried the new bounty system on Buckingham (the test server) yesterday. Its awesome. Freighter killed with a 500mil bounty on the pilot granted a 300mil payout. Blew up a megathron with a bountied pilot and a 20mil payout.

This is going to make bounty hunting interesting.

yk

I think the point went way over your head.

Anyone know why the payout is so low? By what i understand if someone puts a 200mil bounty on me and i only fly cruisers they'll have a bounty on them for freak en ever if they only get 20% of the destroyed cost each time.

If this is true why dont they go higher on the reward system?

They had to limit it to a figure at which, combined with insurance, one could not make a profit from it by killing their own alts.

@Alara IonStorm

Doesnt insurance also serve the band aid purpose of maintaining minimum mineral prices?

* They should start off new players with 500k to 2mil.

Bounty hunting sounds like fun, but I rather expect that most people will just avoid generating kill rights altogether after the patch. Pirates will stop podding in lowsec... not that podding in lowsec was very common anyway. What else generates kill rights? Shooting ships in low doesn't. Shooting ships or even pods in 0.0 or w-space doesn't. But that's where most pvp happens.

Most criminals may just stop being criminal, or they will stay in their low sec base or whereever they live and only use neutral alts to move around, shop in Jita etc.

I just know people would be rolling alts in their spare slots and biomassing them again every day for the pitiful amount of ISK it would generate.
EVE players are pathetic like that.

Gonna laugh my ass off if being Concorded voids bounty payouts like insurance.

Bounty hunting sounds like fun, but I rather expect that most people will just avoid generating kill rights altogether after the patch. Pirates will stop podding in lowsec... not that podding in lowsec was very common anyway. What else generates kill rights? Shooting ships in low doesn't. Shooting ships or even pods in 0.0 or w-space doesn't. But that's where most pvp happens.

Most criminals may just stop being criminal, or they will stay in their low sec base or whereever they live and only use neutral alts to move around, shop in Jita etc.

And are there even so many people out there who want to spend ISK to take revenge and actually have those ISK? When I lose a ship I'm not angry at the guy who shot me. Certainly I'm not angry enough to spend even more ISK on top of the loss I already suffered just so he loses something too. It's not like I gain anything from it.

I'm afraid that after a few days of gold rush there will be a lot of bounty hunters, but very little prey for them...

Yes. Example: you can bounty miners all day long, yet you will still get concorded when you attack. But you will actually get a bounty if you manage to kill them.

I don't know, that's why the third paragraph is a question rather than an assertion

Even if bounties are low, people may still buy kill rights just for the fun. I at least think following someone around and then activate kill right and kill him somewhere in a corner where he can get no help sounds like a lot fun, so I'd not need to get a lot of ISK for doing it.

AS I said from the begining, this bounty system is by far the biggest gank buff ever. Now lets see how much time it will last before it gets "adjusted"

If I buy a killright, does this mean I can kill this person without them getting a killright on me? (as long as I don't pod them)

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.

You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed.

The ability to incentivize killing someone in high sec despite Concord response is one of the main reasons to introduce this new bounty system.

AKA "how do we get our players to roll more alt accounts?"

Thats what PI is for. Shame its a very basic structure building part of an rts but in 10 years time Im sure an expansion will come out that improves it.