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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:58:00 -
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I'm thinking that this isn't very practical.. first because it doubles the resourses used.. when it would be nice to think the resourses would be better used on the current gaming interation. second, it's splits the user base.. which this may not seem like a bad thing to some.. it would certainly effect the markets having fewer people participate.. third, don't we already have a test server? couldn't you use that as you back up server.. minus some of the pvp of course.
I'd hate to see CCP spend load of money on this for very little return.
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Insane Nutta
Insane Cru
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:02:00 -
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No. It's because the Chinese government...
I have an account on Serenity ( Chinese Server ) its great fun but fully language translated so helping me study Mandarin.
There are time limits on how much you can play for health reasons as too many young chinese boys were doing bad at school due to online games ( not EvE its tiny here ) so the government put a rule on all online games to 5 hours of play in every 24hr period so you can play for a solid 10 hours if you put midnight in the middle.
( Skills / POS times e,t,c still run as normal ... Time Dilation would be a disaster  )
The rest of the stuff above about government censorship is not true.
Its fun to play on a different server and was fun making my first 5 Million ISK again.
I think the biggest difference is no T2 BPOs , that I can see , so that means a more level playing field nobody can create monopolies and all T2 must come from invention and creation of low run BPC. There is no T3 yet the server is very far behind in terms of versions and features ... its not even run by CCP a chinese company hosts and buys the patches / updates. |
Vanessa Vansen
Cybermana
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Posted - 2011.10.05 07:00:00 -
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Insane Nutta wrote:...
I think the biggest difference is no T2 BPOs , that I can see , so that means a more level playing field nobody can create monopolies and all T2 must come from invention and creation of low run BPC. There is no T3 yet the server is very far behind in terms of versions and features ... its not even run by CCP a chinese company hosts and buys the patches / updates.
That could be something CCP should take care of!
Their argument "oh, it's not that bad on market" is no argument at all.
It's a clear advantage for the T2 BPO holders and that should not be.
So, yes, CCP should remove them and hand out some research points to the owners.
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Insane Nutta
Insane Cru
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Posted - 2011.10.05 07:22:00 -
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Vanessa Vansen wrote:
It's a clear advantage for the T2 BPO holders and that should not be.
So, yes, CCP should remove them and hand out some research points to the owners.
I agree or make all current T2 BPO into BPC with 999 runs and decent ME / TE then at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel and this problem will be resolved in about a year or so. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.05 15:26:00 -
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There are some real mathmateicaned t2 bpo researchers that did the number crunching and found out that invention is currently cheaper and that the money time and skills invested in t2bpos wont pay for themselves anytime soon.
Also what people (and what really determines that those who cry over tech 2 bpos dont know what they're talking about) also need to understand that tech 2 bpo research is just as bad as capitol ship bpo research, the number of item reduction isnt all that great over the many levels. even at me 1000 your looking at removeing 1 or 2 items becuase how few of them there are verses the tech 1 bpos which have millions of items to reduce from instead of 10-20 items. |
Sloppyslug
Bring The Noise
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Posted - 2011.10.05 18:39:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:There are some real mathmateicaned t2 bpo researchers that did the number crunching and found out that invention is currently cheaper and that the money time and skills invested in t2bpos wont pay for themselves anytime soon.
Also what people (and what really determines that those who cry over tech 2 bpos dont know what they're talking about) also need to understand that tech 2 bpo research is just as bad as capitol ship bpo research, the number of item reduction isnt all that great over the many levels. even at me 1000 your looking at removeing 1 or 2 items becuase how few of them there are verses the tech 1 bpos which have millions of items to reduce from instead of 10-20 items.
Huh? Some of the T2 BPO horders since 2006 are considered the richest in the game. Are you saying if your lucky enough to play the game since long enough ago and notice flaws in the game which will be taken away for future players in patches deserve it? ok :). |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.05 18:42:00 -
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Sloppyslug wrote:Nova Fox wrote:There are some real mathmateicaned t2 bpo researchers that did the number crunching and found out that invention is currently cheaper and that the money time and skills invested in t2bpos wont pay for themselves anytime soon.
Also what people (and what really determines that those who cry over tech 2 bpos dont know what they're talking about) also need to understand that tech 2 bpo research is just as bad as capitol ship bpo research, the number of item reduction isnt all that great over the many levels. even at me 1000 your looking at removeing 1 or 2 items becuase how few of them there are verses the tech 1 bpos which have millions of items to reduce from instead of 10-20 items. Huh? Some of the T2 BPO horders since 2006 are considered the richest in the game. Are you saying if your lucky enough to play the game since long enough ago and notice flaws in the game which will be taken away for future players in patches deserve it? ok :).
Im saying that the BPOs hold little advantage over thier invented cousins. |
Insane Nutta
Insane Cru
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Posted - 2011.10.06 01:37:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:
Im saying that the BPOs hold little advantage over thier invented cousins.
Not true ... its scale and all the background stuff that makes the advantage ... consider the idea that I want to make 10,000 Conflagration Large Advanced Pulse Laser Crystals
Without the BPO the Invention slots, time finding a station or even building a POS in safe / non-safe space e.t.c is so long winded and expensive I simply can not compete when they only sell for around 1.2 Million ISK each ... This is where the money is and where the 2006 players just rake it in .... low level T2 BPO's that just make small amount hundreds of times a day on products that expire such as ammo.
This is a little off topic now to a "fresh start" and I am not saying its a fix for everything but making changes to the game that remove monopolies but still give the people with the monopolies potentially years notice to adjust, has to be good for younger newer players going forward.... and this is coming from a 2006 player
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.10.06 01:41:00 -
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I think ammo is the only real quantifiable advantage with the BPOs but items like ships you can only build so many at once and the materials saved from advanced ME isnt noticable beyond lvl 10 until around what 100? |
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