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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:20:00 -
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THX ALOT for balancing hybrids..my mega love it, now I can fit rack of ions instead of electrons and stuff....but CPU is realy big problem..in order to have a good setup I have to get top named gear and still its short on CPU.....dunno how I would be able to fit tech II blasters ones I can use them......think mega can use bit more CPU....anyone agree with me?
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:05:00 -
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yup, ravens too... and by the way, increased targetting range on tempests, usefull second bonus on typhoon, more pg on apoc to fit megabeams?
(but yes i do agree, a lil bit more cpu wouldnt do any bad)
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:14:00 -
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I disagree- instead of fitting out 2-3 RCUII, you can now really get the big setups with just 1 co-pro II. I dont see a problem with this - hitting your CPU limit isn't as bad as a PG limit, as you're often hundreds/thousands off with grid, but CPU is much more flexible.
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Hyey
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Dred 'Morte
yup, ravens too... and by the way, increased targetting range on tempests, usefull second bonus on typhoon, more pg on apoc to fit megabeams?
(but yes i do agree, a lil bit more cpu wouldnt do any bad)
LOL I was so gonna agree with everything you said anyway... till you said more pg on an apoc that already has a base of 19.5k :p
Yea mega needs a bit more CPU true
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SirSpectre
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:15:00 -
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Here Here!! The mega does need some more cpu. But training weapon upgrades 5 and using some good named hardeners helps alot! But some how I dont thing that we'll ever get it Oh well. Guess we got to make some different setups.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy
THX ALOT for balancing hybrids..my mega love it, now I can fit rack of ions instead of electrons and stuff....but CPU is realy big problem..in order to have a good setup I have to get top named gear and still its short on CPU.....dunno how I would be able to fit tech II blasters ones I can use them......think mega can use bit more CPU....anyone agree with me?
Only if the Tempest gets it too. I mean, it is supposed to shield tank.
Besides, the Megathron and Tempest are very intertwined with eachother. They have the same powergrid and CPU at the moment. They both used to suffer a good deal with both powergrid and CPU. Megathron only suffers (to large extents) with CPU now, after the hybrid love.
Oh and artillery power reduction, kthx.
Speaking of needing more CPU, why does the typhoon/dominix have more than the tempest/megathron respectively?  As they are the older ships, it doesn't quite make sense.
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:35:00 -
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u tried it with regulated ions or modal ions?i think one can acctually SQUEEZE on a good setup using 7 regulated ions, and a assault with defenders.
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Hyey
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Only if the Tempest gets it too. I mean, it is supposed to shield tank.
Besides, the Megathron and Tempest are very intertwined with eachother. They have the same powergrid and CPU at the moment. They both used to suffer a good deal with both powergrid and CPU. Megathron only suffers (to large extents) with CPU now, after the hybrid love.
Oh and artillery power reduction, kthx.
Speaking of needing more CPU, why does the typhoon/dominix have more than the tempest/megathron respectively? As they are the older ships, it doesn't quite make sense.
Tempest needs a serious CPU boost, totally agree there. Artillery needs a power reduction as well, not being able to fit 5 (... yes 5) of our tech 1 guns without a PDU is simply wrong if you guys can fit 7 ;)
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:46:00 -
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I can fit can fit 7 netrons and 7 Tech II Damage mods.
CPU reduction skills and hardwiring implants 4tw. 
I can also fit a tank with 5 ions, 3 NOS and a tank to cover all damage types. This setup tanked a Amargeddeon using beams while spanking a Scorpian.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.04.19 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Speaking of needing more CPU, why does the typhoon/dominix have more than the tempest/megathron respectively? As they are the older ships, it doesn't quite make sense.
I agree with this. It doesn't make sense from a roleplaying perspective.
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Posted - 2005.04.19 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
I can also fit a tank with 5 ions, 3 NOS and a tank to cover all damage types. This setup tanked a Amargeddeon using beams while spanking a Scorpian.
With cap charges or only with nos + natural recharge rate ?
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hyey
Tempest needs a serious CPU boost, totally agree there. Artillery needs a power reduction as well, not being able to fit 5 (... yes 5) of our tech 1 guns without a PDU is simply wrong if you guys can fit 7 ;)
Sure you can....it just happens to be 5 800mm short range weapons, like the blasters, instead of 5 1400mm long range guns. Theres no way you are gonna fit 7 425mm rails on there without a bit of jimmying so comparing artillery grid usage to blaster grid usage is a bit wrong imho.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:11:54
Originally by: Antoinette Civari
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
I can also fit a tank with 5 ions, 3 NOS and a tank to cover all damage types. This setup tanked a Amargeddeon using beams while spanking a Scorpian.
With cap charges or only with nos + natural recharge rate ?
Cap charges too. I'll admit it is tight, make that very tight. So thight I can only do because I bought the skill hardwiring implant. It is so sad that I have Electronics and the Turret CPU reduction skills to V and tech II blasters are going to be out of the question ;_;
Unless I want to play out damage my foe, which is going to ******* happen when you need to be around 5km for blasters to work.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:19:50
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:19:02
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:16:05
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:14:10
Originally by: Alyth
Theres no way you are gonna fit 7 425mm rails on there without a bit of jimmying
Are we talking about fitting them or having a semi decent tank as well? because you are right, a tank is going to happen.
I'd rather see CCP release advance electronics and engineering skill books. Though grid is rarely a problem, espically with the semi-hybrid love (lol electrons still for the blasterx)
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:48:00 -
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yeah cpu sucks, but its still a better fitting than b4, and altough i use 2x cput2 it kicks ass :)
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.04.20 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:19:50
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:19:02
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:16:05
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 19/04/2005 22:14:10
Originally by: Alyth
Theres no way you are gonna fit 7 425mm rails on there without a bit of jimmying
Are we talking about fitting them or having a semi decent tank as well? because you are right, a tank is going to happen.
I'd rather see CCP release advance electronics and engineering skill books. Though grid is rarely a problem, espically with the semi-hybrid love (lol electrons still for the blasterx)
its not gonna happen (skills). Would unleash a whole truckload of canned worms.
Oh... and you sure can fit 7 425mms. You can also fit 7 neutrons. Tempest can only fit 5 1400s. Yeah, 6 800mms is pretty easy... but then again, they barely do the damage of ion blasters. And you can only have 6.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.04.20 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Elrathias
u tried it with regulated ions or modal ions?i think one can acctually SQUEEZE on a good setup using 7 regulated ions, and a assault with defenders.
modal ions aint in game......got limited fitted ..and I need 8th slot foe heavy NOS...oh well...gues I have to live with this CPU thing in my low..
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Eamz
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Posted - 2005.04.20 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
yeah cpu sucks, but its still a better fitting than b4, and altough i use 2x cput2 it kicks ass :)
Why on earth would you bother, just go for electrons and 2 more damage mods, much better damage over time + better tracking and more ammo.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.21 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Are we talking about fitting them or having a semi decent tank as well? because you are right, a tank is going to happen.
I'd rather see CCP release advance electronics and engineering skill books. Though grid is rarely a problem, espically with the semi-hybrid love (lol electrons still for the blasterx)
its not gonna happen (skills). Would unleash a whole truckload of canned worms.
Oh... and you sure can fit 7 425mms. You can also fit 7 neutrons. Tempest can only fit 5 1400s. Yeah, 6 800mms is pretty easy... but then again, they barely do the damage of ion blasters. And you can only have 6.
I was using the stats off the site database, looks like they havent been updated yet.
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Captain Rod
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Posted - 2005.04.21 11:13:00 -
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Come on guys we got a boost to the Mega T. Stop the whines and get out there and rail and blast. If your set up doesn't fit or work then change it. Answer me this is that 8th slot really worth it? Use your B.R.I.A.N. innit, and if that doesn't work your grey matter will just have to do.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.04.21 11:46:00 -
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There is no smart tankathron setup with t2 guns... and i don0t want to fly 7x neutronII, 7x mag stabII setup
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Kal Atraides
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Posted - 2005.04.21 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Akaviri
Originally by: Selim
Speaking of needing more CPU, why does the typhoon/dominix have more than the tempest/megathron respectively? As they are the older ships, it doesn't quite make sense.
I agree with this. It doesn't make sense from a roleplaying perspective.
It depends on howyou look at it IMO.
On one hand we have that they are older designs and they have been tried and tested and certine things hve been streamlines meaning thew ships computer isnt needed for this or that. On another perspective from that point wouldnt that mean that those design improvments where incorporated into the newer ship class design.
From another perspective the Megathron has a Crew of 6900 and the dominix has a crew of 6200. Thats not much of a drop for a ship half the size. This suggests that more things are automated on the megathron. hence taking up more grid.
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Overlord Agnew
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Posted - 2005.04.23 12:32:00 -
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mega doesn't need anymore cpu at all.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.04.23 13:18:00 -
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I ahve to admit here even though I'm a megathron flyer the megathron does not need more cpu. The taranis in the other hand could do with an extra 0.25 pg imo 
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:43:00 -
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It's not the Megathron that needs to be changed, it's the blasters that are designed without taking into account that they actually has to be rather close to the opponent to hit. That means, the blasters take a fair bit too much fitting requirements.
When it comes to CPU, any Gallente ship smaller than BShip has extreme problems. Take Brutix, for example. One of the best looking ships in game, yet so horribly short on CPU that it's difficult to get a good fitting even with named tier 1 medium hybrids.
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Rivek
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:56:00 -
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agreed that the brutix is even worse. What was ccp thinking in giving a ship that is suposed to use hybrids (most cpu use) and 7 of them at that the lowest (i think) cpu of any BC?
That said, I always have cpu problems with the megathron and I cant really see how one is supposed to use t2 guns without putting on cpu boosters when there are cpu troubles using modal or regulated versions.
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:59:00 -
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All ships except perhaps the tempest (if shield tanking) have adequade cpu.
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Posted - 2005.04.23 17:05:00 -
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forget cpu, powergrid, gun nerfs/boost. that's a endless and meaningless cycle. Drones 4tw
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2005.04.23 18:10:00 -
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on my current setup i have 80 free cpu great tanking and good damage, im not really seeing them problem =x
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.04.23 18:23:00 -
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would you like to share ur setup with us? 
Btw, when i said more pg on apoc in my first reply, i was only kidding !
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