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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 13:30:00 -
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Well I was wondering if Xetic corps are supposed to be the good guys or not? Or do xetic have rouge corps that kill pos sec status players in low sec empire?
This is not a flame or whine so trolls stay away. I am just asking a question so I know better next time, to the fourhorseman corp( hope I spelled it right) nice use of scan probes. 3 BS's and a cruiser is a little exssesive for a little ol raven but hey was fun But no smack and I will see ya'll again :)
So to the original Q, Good Guy's or wolf hiding in the herd?
Oh to the english teachers in here I know i have crappy grammer
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 13:43:00 -
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I was just wondering, if ss busting a neutral player and fire on them is normal operating procedure? So if i see xetic corps in local I will be better prepared, thats all
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 14:01:00 -
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Well I was in assah in a ss, I hadnt aggro on noone and I got a +3.5 sec status, and was attacked and blown up. I know the risks so i'm not whining but I was under the impression that Xetic corps were the good guys so I didnt worry.
Lesson learned
Thankyou for the contact info
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 16:59:00 -
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I have just got in this corp, I know of I believe 1 or 2 peeps that have neg sec status, the point to my post was I was led to believe that if you havent activly pirated that XF corps will not attack.
After I logged in I was headed to 0.0 next to assah to rat, corp mate said horseman killed and podded him he was just transporting skill book for a corp mate to 0.0 in a kessy. I know 0.0 is lawless so dont say it I know already, but then unknown to me I was being activly hunted by horseman in .3 space.
The fight was fun while it lasted, Good use of scan probes landed right on top of me.
I strayed from my low sec procedures and payed for it, trust no corps even the so called "GOOD GUYS" and keep moving from ss to ss.
P.S. As I said at the first not a whine, just a Q.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 20:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Marcus Grisbius
Um... by chance did you ask them why they shot at you? Have you shot at them before while in a different corp? Did you provoke them in local, ie. calling their moms bad names or something? Have you shot at friends of theirs?
There are many things that could have gotten you on their KOS list if you happen to be on it. You might want to find that out before trying to stir something up on the forums. Four Horsemen are pretty strict about anti-piracy so I would imagine that either you were on their KOS list or there was a miscommunication and it was mistake. Either way you'll need to contact them in order to find out.
Yeah I asked but no responce, only thing they responded to was when I asked if they used scan probes. And I'm not trying to stir anything, was asking a Q, read my first post. I had never run into these guys bfore lastnight log in chattin in corp with the guy they just blasted and lookin at my map, getting ready to head into 0.0 to rat and I see mee start to take damage.
I never smack in local or even if I get killed smack = nublet and I am at work so when I get on tonight I will try and eve-mail there ceo. This post was in no means flame, smack, or any of the above.
And from what I have read here XF has policy not to attack neautrals out side of XF territory and if Assah is XF territory I retract that part of my statement.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.21 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Neslo
Edited by: Neslo on 21/04/2005 22:32:59
 Unbeleever = 
Renkers Crew =
Situation calls for Anti-
Don't complain when you got killed dude. Your Corporation has been shooting the guys coming through G-5 and Camping the gates... let's not play make believe here :-)
EDIT: You could always leave your corporation and life of crime and return to being a neutral and you'd have no problems... BTW... your "friend" was traveling with Freezer of Modular Mining (AKA Killer Clowns from Outer Space)...
Well for one I had just joined that crew,(check my time in corp),
I had no info of the activities going on.
I have not shot at anyone in or around that system so your unbeleever= is a assumption.
Is G-5 XF space? If not 0.0 is fair game.
I was in .3 space not XF territory, but that is fine I just logged in to a ass kickin out of nowhere. You justify it anyway you want to, your crew aggro me for no reason. It was a good job on your side though, 3 bs and a cruiser for lil ol me. And if ya read my post I was not complaining at all just asking a Q as I had no idea what was going on.
"GOOD GUY'S"
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene
Hmm.. About 2 weeks ago while on patrol there was a Renkers Crew tempest taking pot shots at my enyo at the Assah gate in G-5 from 140km out. That's all I'm gonna say on the matter. Wish I could remember the pilots name.. 
Your a knob, Renkers has only been around since 4/16/05 so try again man
To Neslo ya not on and I tried to get a hold of ya, ya wanted to kill my mates becouse of sec status, made up the gate camp stuff so ya can pirate in low sec empire. Then ya came after me after they logged off. I had a long talk with brundle and he says he had no corpes in the freezer just a skill book, he aint gonna lie to me, or I would pod his ass I love this game but if ya want to kill peeps just do it but dont make stuff up, I was polite before but I or my corp did not aggro your corp or other peeps in G-5.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Medusa
Originally by: TEK9
Seriously, as these are the facts it seems clear to me that there are possible two reasons for this aggression by the Four Horsemen:
1) They have mistakenly believed that we are a pirate corp;
2) They have become a pirate corp themselves.
So come on fellas own up, which one is it ?
There is NO way LIH are pirateing.
They will however shoot anyone marked red, and being marked red by LIH = your corp is on the piratelist.
I whould like to tip my hat at Renkers Crew for takeing this case to our attention in a civilized and profecional mather.
Also, if there is an error with the standing towards Renkers Crew, and you guys wish to opperate in Assah (a system that are for pirats what Arenju are for Conan) and go ratting in Providence, talk to the corps patroleing the systems on pirate extermintaion raids. (LIH, DDC and theire friends in Providence.)
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Just of curriosity... What where you doing in a SS?
I was heading to G-5 to go rat passed my mate he told me to ss, becouse horseman had killed him and I always ss in low sec. Never in a belt or gate to many peeps that can snipe ya or try and kill ya plus I was looking at my map for I am not familiar with this area, so ss was logical.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:24:00 -
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Myself and TEK9 are currently going through the diplomatic channels to resolve this, I want a quick end to this so we all can go back to making money and picking flowers and ****
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:02:00 -
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Well I would suggest that you not assume that a corp is hostile until aggression has been comfirmed. We are just here to rat and make money.
Just randomly killing peeps due to past corp history, you would be fighting more than half of eve.
With that admission of basic ganking due to corp history.
I didnt know that assah and G-5 needed permission to fly into and make money With that bieng said I say again RENKERS CREW HAS NOT AGRRESSED ANY PERSON OR PERSONS IN OR AROUND THE PROVIDENCE REGION. So your you got a bad corp history comment holds no weight with me, until I agress any one I expect to be able to do my thing with out a the GOOD GUYS kickin my arse becouse of a questionable corp history.
To me this looks like a excuess to kill a player due to inactivity or what ever, if im wrong please correct me.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xors
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 19:29:41
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 19:27:42
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 19:25:53
Originally by: TEK9
Originally by: Kerosene
Basically Renkers was formed by a few friends who wanted to go NPC rat hunting in 0.0 to make isk. A couple of members (including me) have security status 'issues' from activities in previous Corps (categorically not Renkers) and our intention was to use this as an opportunity to remedy our negative status.
you screwed yourself here with this admission..... if you look at #'s 5,6,7 you probably fit into one or more of those categories.
in 4 horsemen we:
1.) Kill blatant Pirates or Outlaws
2.) Kill allies of pirates
3.) Kill friends of pirates
4.) Kill pirate wannabes
5.) Kill EX-pirates
6.) Kill anyone with a Pirate Corp in their employment history.
7.) Kill any associates of pirates.
If by your admission you were involved in any type of pirating in the past/present then you were a valid target.
We also kill any ex-Corp 1 pilots regardless of what corp they are presently in. We dont forgive or forget. IF that makes us "evil" ...then oh well.
Its means that our anti-pirate policy is so strict that you had better choose your path in EVE carefully or your character could become permanently tainted.
Xors I suggest that we let the diplomatic channels turn and if no resolve can be found then me and you can discuss my corp history in person.
I am trying to find a peaceful solution to this but your comment was hostil and confrontational to a corp who has never bothered you or your corp.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.22 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Xors
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 20:16:26
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 20:14:59
Originally by: Unbeleever
Originally by: Xors
Edited by: Xors on 22/04/2005 19:29:41Xors I suggest that we let the diplomatic channels turn and if no resolve can be found then me and you can discuss my corp history in person.
I am trying to find a peaceful solution to this but your comment was hostil and confrontational to a corp who has never bothered you or your corp.
Confrontational? Slandering my corporation as pirates and calling them *evil bad guys* behind a veiled sense of "haha i am just kidding guys" is unacceptable.
You are just hiding a knife behind your laughter and joking and "diplomacy". Be honest... your p*ssed about losing your raven and you are gonna do something about it arent you? I for one will be ready.
Lets not let this spiral out of control, I am distressed at the loss of my raven but notheart broken as my corp was unfairly targeted and hunted with no aggression at all on our parts to you or the citezens of providence.
So in affect you have persicuted a corp for past corp history with out asking our intensions in the providence region. Which I assure you are purley finanical bottom line.
Xors I wasnt threating you, your post sounded hostile thats all. I intend on speaking with neslor soon, as i am not at home and then if need be we can involve lauchland if need be ( I murdered that name sorry lol) but I would prefer to iron this out with the horseman so as we can all come to a benificial situation to all.
And for your diplomacy comment I belive that I have been very respectful and polite with no smack in this post, so yes I believe that I have been diplomatic.
Xetic federation corps are not the iron hand of eve, you stand for justice right? well lets work this out peacefully.
And I am curious how I slandered your corp I have done no such thing bro so please spin it how you want.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.04.23 01:30:00 -
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If my CEO says it is done it is neslo you have been respectful and smack free thankyou for your composure in this matter. To the rest I hope this does not taint further relations in space. I am actually a nice guy c-ya all around.
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
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