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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Big doggy on 22/04/2005 16:34:10 Hi, that's right, if you have a character you are willing to use to lose a little security status, my corp will pay you 5 million to kill any miner in a barge or a hauler in Empire. You will lose -2 PERCENT of your sec status for one kill, -12 Percent if you pod the miner, so that is not needed nor recommended (but sometimes these things can't be helped). Do the math, if you sec status is 1.0, -2% of that is not that great.
It is really very simple. Barges have very weak defences with a base shield of only 250. They are extremely easy to kill with a Cruiser, or 2 or 3 frigates. It really depends on your skill levels. Haulers are only slightly stronger. It is best to have more than one ship though as concord targets on person and then the next after a slight delay, thus giving the second ship more time to fire.
You want to use the right kind of damage for the target. And you do not want to do this in 1.0 sec space as concordgankage is just too fast there, 0.9 to 0.5 space is much better.
Conditions for this are as follows: 1) This must be prearranged with me or my corp mates ahead of time. No exceptions.
2) One of us must witness the kill. You must actually destroy the ship of the miner in .9 to .5 space. Podding is not needed nor reccomended.
3) The miner must be in a player corporation for more than 1 month. He cannot be in your corp. No NPC miners. No new miners (at least once month in a non-npc corp).
4) You will insure your ship, of course, so your costs are minimum. Your actual cost will only be your modules and your insurance.
5) We will collect all loot and give it to you, both yours and the miners. THIS can very be good as some mining lasers and cargo expanders can be worth many, many millions of isk.
6) Please do not violate the EULA in any way. This includes using an alt that you will later delete. Also you should make no attempt to evade concord in any way. That is against the entire spirit of the endeavor.
7) Upon completion of the kill meeting the above conditions payment of 5 million isk will immediately be paid to you. Bonus's of more isk may be alloted if you are creative and kill more than one miner at a time. Smart bombs are your friend. So if you killed 2 miners you will get 10 million PLUS a bonus for killing two at once. Recently I killed 5 at once in Jita so its not hard to do.
KILL ALL MINERS. |

Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Eviljohn on 22/04/2005 16:48:10 u can kill them with an alt it a kestral and rockets with just starting skills no training needed then sell the mods yourself
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Bo'ith
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn Edited by: Eviljohn on 22/04/2005 16:48:10 u can kill them with an alt it a kestral and rockets with just starting skills no training needed then sell the mods yourself
John, you completely missed the point of the entire original post.
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Hyey
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:10:00 -
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So exactly what is the point of killing empire miners... that part still eludes me ~~ Hyey
I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:11:00 -
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Ohhh...whats the matter BigDoggy? Those poor CareBare miners giving you some risk?
LOL
Better yet, all CareBear miners create an alt with Frig 4 and train Missle Operation to 2, and then Standard to one, and buy you some kessies, and lets all go have a Hoot and a Holler tonight. Lets pop some thieves.
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Ryy Kishin
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:15:00 -
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Care Bear Miners 4tw Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse!
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MiracleMaker
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:24:00 -
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ohhh nooessss... some noob miners finally stand up in Doggy's little empire sand box and push back and this is the response.
All the best to the honest miners. _______________________________________________ Making Miracles, One pod at a time |

Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:28:00 -
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2 alts and some fake kill mails and u`ll be able to make a fortune then ;)
Everlasting Vendetta - Search |

Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:30:00 -
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I think it's really sad that you're trying to incite newbies to start grief play.
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Crias Taylor
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi 2 alts and some fake kill mails and u`ll be able to make a fortune then ;)
Awesome reading there. 
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Dream Crusher
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Virago Ohhh...whats the matter BigDoggy? Those poor CareBare miners giving you some risk?
LOL
Better yet, all CareBear miners create an alt with Frig 4 and train Missle Operation to 2, and then Standard to one, and buy you some kessies, and lets all go have a Hoot and a Holler tonight. Lets pop some thieves.
Thats a good idea. But they'll never do it. They are too busy being hypnotized by the wonderous Veldspar. |

Corsair Thunder
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Corsair Thunder on 22/04/2005 17:36:44 Lame topic lol, no-ones gonna risk that loss in sec status just to get measily hauler and mining barge kill mails. Mining isnt against the law ya know, mining is another way to play eve and if people want to do that, they should be let. But np, concord will gank your ass quicker, and when the transport ships come out with lower price tags, they will tank them, and then when u and your 'brigade' come and try to kill them, you will get ganked quickly, and the ship will be perfectly fine. i'm not a carebear myself i love pvp, but where would YOU and YOUR ships/equipment be without miners?
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Corsair Thunder Edited by: Corsair Thunder on 22/04/2005 17:36:44 Lame topic lol, no-ones gonna risk that loss in sec status just to get measily hauler and mining barge kill mails. Mining isnt against the law ya know, mining is another way to play eve and if people want to do that, they should be let. But np, concord will gank your ass quicker, and when the transport ships come out with lower price tags, they will tank them, and then when u and your 'brigade' come and try to kill them, you will get ganked quickly, and the ship will be perfectly fine. i'm not a carebear myself i love pvp, but where would YOU and YOUR ships/equipment be without miners?
I don't care how tough of a tank you can get on your transport ship or even how fast a response Concord will respond with. No cruiser, and below can survive 8 large smartbombs and not be podded.
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Dream Crusher
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Skogen Gump I think it's really sad that you're trying to incite newbies to start grief play.
We asked and were told officially it's not grief play. Now that may well be open to interpretation. If it is indeed decided to be grief play, we'd stop immediately. I am sure the word we got may not be the final word. The rules seem to change from person to person.
But attacking people is part of the game. Go to 0.0 is you want some real grief. |

frille dille
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: frille dille on 22/04/2005 18:15:22 Edited by: frille dille on 22/04/2005 18:13:51 I just have to ask...
Aren't you an ore thief?
/Edit/ And why the hell wont the forum settings get that i dont want to post with my alt?
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:50:00 -
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Alibaba's 40 Thieves corp is also recruiting. We offer entertainment, laughs, profit, and lots of other things. Just a personal reference, Big Doggy is more fun to hang out with than all the members of every corp ANY of my characters have been in combined. Alts and n00bs are welcome.
Also, our corp has a "pay the informant" system. Let us know where a good mining op will be held, and we will give you half of our proceeds from the stolen loot. All informant information will remain confidential.
*Hugs* -Ashley
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Gunner Stahl
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:50:00 -
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As a miner I have to wonder what the point in this is...
As miners we bother no one, we produce materials that build the ships you fly and th emods you use, and we are for the most part nice people (read: Not *******s like you). Why do you feel the need to convince yourself and others to waste ships and modules to kill miners? Personally I think I could find a better and more profitable use of time in-game than blowing up people who are trying to play the game without bothering anyone.
So you wasted 300k on a ship and mods to blow up a multi-million isk vessel in secure space.
Congrats, you're mediocre...  _________________________________________ Ask not what your country can do for you. Don't ask what you can do for your country, either. Start asking what your country is doing TO you. |

Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:02:00 -
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Shooting non war targets and miners in general in anything smaller than a BS or Large Barge is pretty lame
Grow some balls and shoot people that can shoot you back\
Zandramus Zandramus Parking Violations Officer Geminate Division S.A.S
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Bawlduke
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Corsair Thunder Edited by: Corsair Thunder on 22/04/2005 17:36:44 Lame topic lol, no-ones gonna risk that loss in sec status just to get measily hauler and mining barge kill mails. Mining isnt against the law ya know, mining is another way to play eve and if people want to do that, they should be let. But np, concord will gank your ass quicker, and when the transport ships come out with lower price tags, they will tank them, and then when u and your 'brigade' come and try to kill them, you will get ganked quickly, and the ship will be perfectly fine. i'm not a carebear myself i love pvp, but where would YOU and YOUR ships/equipment be without miners?
I don't care how tough of a tank you can get on your transport ship or even how fast a response Concord will respond with. No cruiser, and below can survive 8 large smartbombs and not be podded.
and if you are a fool that uses a bs in empire to do this, you deserve to lose the bs...(morons and keyboards, what a terrible mix) "it's like Hee Haw in space..."
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:32:00 -
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This is in direct response to carebears killing ore theives in high-sec.
Big Doggy, count me in mate.  "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |

Dream Crusher
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Dream Crusher on 22/04/2005 19:38:19
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and if you are a fool that uses a bs in empire to do this, you deserve to lose the bs...(morons and keyboards, what a terrible mix)
Hey Celes, don't you know the BS's insurance runs out? Oh I forgot, you guys are so good you don't need insurance, right. Ok.
Well, see, when the insurance is about to run out, take some cheap modules, and go have some fun with the BS. I did that in Jita with a megathron on one of my MAIN characters, he podded 5 miners, and now he's got a lovely -6 sec rating to work off. |

Calderio
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Calderio on 22/04/2005 19:57:16 i misread the first time. if this offer is availible in a .4 or lower system then it a awsome deal. yarrr...
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:29:00 -
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Yay....
Dear CCP. Can you please change the name of this game to
griEvE-Online
VeryTrulyYours, Virago
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Cam Conquer
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:53:00 -
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Big doggy you and your friends are lame.
And what is your problem with miners? They making too much isk in empire space for you 
You getting bullied at school so have to take it out on miners? 
And 5mil most people can make this in the time they spend trying to waste a poor defenceless miner
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Appetite
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Posted - 2005.04.22 21:19:00 -
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Ok, kids, it might be fun to watch..... To watch some of your intended security victims die needlessly.
Some miners have teeth, some have claws, and sometimes they get to pick up your mods from the cargo container.
That's why they play the game.
Are you the prey, or the prayed upon? 
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Zell
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Posted - 2005.04.22 21:29:00 -
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This thread is proof that everyone rises to their level of incompedence...
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |

Bo'ith
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Posted - 2005.04.22 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
This thread is proof that everyone rises to their level of incompedence...
Yep they sure do rise to their level of INCOMPEDENCE (as you spell it) and they prove it with posts like yours! hahahahaa |

Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.04.22 22:17:00 -
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You guys seem perfectly OK with hiring people to shoot up pirates and ore theives, so what's your problem with ore theives and pirates hiring people to shoot you up? "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |

Ice Breaker
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Posted - 2005.04.22 22:21:00 -
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The end of it is terrorism, something not everyone might want for (t)his game.
Anyway, people are welcome to call big doggy to witness a crime. Especially if they don't plan to commit it.
Ice
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.22 22:37:00 -
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I don't know why, but I will bite on this one for the pure educational opportunity.
Miners, especially Empire miners, especially those who never go below a 0.5 and never fit a weapon, ESPECIALLY those miners who whine about the violence in the game and beg for nerfs to support their everlasting carebear existence of mining 24/7 with no risk or action are like an INFESTATION in this game.
Ashley Opinion #1: You do cause harm to the game, making it more boring and useless, drawing people to empire space and wasting the full potential of this game. It bothers me to see people so driven by greed over amassing virtual items and wealth in a game that aren't even REAL! You bother me with your pointlessness and spread of incessant mind-numbing to the point where I am so annoyed I go crazy!! CRAZYY!! and you get results like um, me arranging your deaths.
Ashley Opinion #2: I can mine my own goods faster (yes I do mine sometimes off the highway systems or in insecure space) and produce for cheaper than you can sell your goods to me, so you are a waste of space in the game, other than the entertainment that is provided from stealing or killing you.
I am the Orkin Man (or girl *giggle*) and I am here to provide extermination services for the infestation that makes the game that I pay $14.95x2 per month fun again.
Like roaches, you are fun to squish and I take pleasure in your free treasures and lovely blue explosions. Yes, I am an evil wench and I am having loads of fun in the game providing you with my evil villainess ways. Like it or not, you are here for my entertainment.
As the reknown Evolution corp would suggest, I force you to evolve or die and take pleasure in doing so. So beware out there and enjoy your truly pointless existence while I enjoy my own. But remember, I am having fun and you're bored out of your mind and losing. Time to choose a new proefssion?
*Hugs*  -Ashley
Originally by: Gunner Stahl As a miner I have to wonder what the point in this is...
As miners we bother no one, we produce materials that build the ships you fly and th emods you use, and we are for the most part nice people (read: Not *******s like you). Why do you feel the need to convince yourself and others to waste ships and modules to kill miners? Personally I think I could find a better and more profitable use of time in-game than blowing up people who are trying to play the game without bothering anyone.
So you wasted 300k on a ship and mods to blow up a multi-million isk vessel in secure space.
Congrats, you're mediocre... 
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