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Posted - 2012.11.20 16:43:00 -
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And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers.  |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:19:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. And nobody will miss them.
Cause CCP doesn't care about their RL isk.  |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:24:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. And nobody will miss them. Cause CCP doesn't care about their RL isk. If we're talking RL here, I'm sure Dr. Whats-his-name at CCP has already factored in corporate losses on a much higher scale from the released of DUST over the first 12-18 months than from those few EveO whiners that actually quit rather that failquit over something like a minor mechanic change.
Except this isn't a minor mechanic change. It's basically giving griefers a free pass to not be Concorded for as long as they have isk.
That's not minor. |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:30:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:Except this isn't a minor mechanic change. It's basically giving griefers a free pass to not be Concorded for as long as they have isk.
That's not minor. Yo, bounty doesn't equal kill rights. Learn2read otherwise you can have trouble finding that unsub button you love so much.
See
LHA Tarawa wrote:
3) Selling kill rights
Selling kill rights, buying kill rights. In the end, it's kill rights, it prevents CONCORD from showing up.
And I already have the unsub button ready to go if this is the case :) |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:43:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:If, the new bounty system "messes up" the ability of casual gamers to play EVE mostly free from girefing by PVPers, and the carebears begin to mass unsub as a result, there WILL be changes to the new bounty system. The only "mass" protest I see happening, if anything, is that people will waste time (which they paid for, one way or another) to sit in-game doing NOTHING but shoot at non-destructible objects in game. Ironic, huh? Edit: on a quick note, let's not confuse a BOUNTY with KILL RIGHTS. They aren't the same thing.
How are they not the same thing in this situation? From what I see, Griefer A puts bounty on Bear B. Griefer B, in the same corp as Griefer A, buys kill rights to Bear B and then proceeds to kill them again and again.
Is this right? |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:50:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:How are they not the same thing in this situation? From what I see, Griefer A puts bounty on Bear B. Griefer B, in the same corp as Griefer A, buys kill rights to Bear B and then proceeds to kill them again and again.
Is this right? I don't think so. If I remember correctly, kill rights only work for one kill. Unless Bear B is actually PvPer B who has a lot of people owning his killrights, buying them over and over won't be an option.
Wait really?
Hold on. So if Bear B didn't pod anyone or anything, he can't get killed EVEN if Griefer A puts a bounty on him?
But is Bear B is actually PVP'er B, and he podded Griefer A in the past, Griefer A can buy kill rights, pop him ONCE, and then he can't pop him again? |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:56:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:Hold on. So if Bear B didn't pod anyone or anything, he can't get killed EVEN if Griefer A puts a bounty on him? Bounties are completely separate from killrights/GCC/everything crimewatch. Bounties are just a side-system to reward those who kill someone -- be it a legal or illegal kill.
OK I think I'm getting this now. So, Bear B would have a bounty on him. But since Bear B didn't POD anyone, or PvP at all, no one could take out kill rights on him, or sell kill rights on him, because he never killed anyone?
If that's the case and carebears are safe, then meh, I'm fine with it. As long as the pubbies aren't persecuted by CCP. This could actually be REALLY good for them. |
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:59:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Unit CA108AF wrote:How are they not the same thing in this situation? From what I see, Griefer A puts bounty on Bear B. Griefer B, in the same corp as Griefer A, buys kill rights to Bear B and then proceeds to kill them again and again.
Is this right? I don't think so. If I remember correctly, kill rights only work for one kill. Unless Bear B is actually PvPer B who has a lot of people owning his killrights, buying them over and over won't be an option. Wait really? Hold on. So if Bear B didn't pod anyone or anything, he can't get killed EVEN if Griefer A puts a bounty on him? But is Bear B is actually PVP'er B, and he podded Griefer A in the past, Griefer A can buy kill rights, pop him ONCE, and then he can't pop him again? Pretty much yes. A lot of people bleating on about bounties and saleable kill rights seem to be forgetting that if the player has done nothing that generates a kill right theres nothing for people to sell or buy. Using your example if Bear B has never killed another player or done anything else that could generate a kill right for someone to sell the only way he can be attacked is if the other two are willing to suicide gank him, which is no different from how it is right now.
Well damn. I am sorry for bleating with the rest of them then! Thank you for the clarification!  |
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