|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Jasmine Constantine
   |
Posted - 2005.04.24 13:53:00 -
[1]
But you love the Amarri Wakita, your love is evident with every word you speak. All your comments are full of your respect for their dignity and honour and class Wakita. That just makes you some kind of Matari uncle tom with a sadly developed codependent relationship with your "betters".
And you show your "class" from ducking the challenge I made to you. That hardly seems a good standard for a Matari warrior.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 13:59:00 -
[2]
She doesn't fight at all Raptor. The truth is she used to be in the war but fled when she got blown up too many times. Now she justifies preying on neutral merchants as some kind of ideological claptrap funnelling of funds to non-existant Matari causes.
This Wakita is a fraud and just the kind of carping Amarr-loving Matari collaborator that I truly wish I get the chance to blow to pieces one day soon.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 14:07:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/04/2005 14:35:13
Thank you Stockton D. Nice to see some sensible comment.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 14:55:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/04/2005 15:07:38
 Originally by: Graelyn
Is Star Fraction even trying anymore?
I have never seen people so desperate to look unaffected by anything.
It is funny to see them now on the defensive in a thread they created. Jokes and sarcasm suddenly replace the rhetoric. Clockwork.
And let's not forget, destroying mere ships doesn't hurt SF!
Quote:
Have we lost ships, of course. But those are material assests and nothing more. Not of concequence. Have we lost anything else. *Pouts his lower lip and shakes his head* Im afraid not.
You sure got em there! Haha, ship losses are nothing! They don't hurt a bit! Since CVA hasn't hit your untouchable figmentive "other" stuff, they've failed miserably!
For the love of god leave the crash abuse for after-work hours.
What gets into you people? You read the latest PR Spin from the CVA and you wolf it down like mana from heaven. Amarri/Caldari/Matari alike. Its like some huge mind control ray that Hardin's got in his back pocket. Is it that you all want to be in PIE so sadly you have to impress the boss with little daily diplays of loyalty and sycophantic mewling?
You want the view from the front Graelyn?
Yesterday I took my Megathron class warship the "blood music" into battle with the CVA. After two hours hunting for the enemy I found a pair of targets, Dominix and Zealot. A pair of SF blackbirds reinforced my combat fleet and were joined by an interceptor to catch and warpscramble. After some dancing around with manouvers we sighted the Zealot at a stargate and began the engagement (I was expecting the Dominix to arrive and reinforce the target and was prepared to destroy it personnally).
The engagement turned sour when the Zealot was reinforced immediately by a previously unscouted and heavily tanked Raven battleship. I switched fire to this target as a primary threat because its potential for fof cruise presented a serious risk to our fleet.
Unfortunately the Raven was then further reinforced by the Dominix (which immediately launched a swarm of drones) and a Gallente technology Deimos heavy assault cruiser that caused me some serious problems.
Our fleet was overwhelmed and the "Blood Music" and Blackbird escorts were destroyed by the combined fire of two battleships and two heavy assault cruisers. All of our fighters stayed and fought and all ships were lost. Nobody ran.
After this crushing defeat we rallied at Yulai and planned a counterattack. The CVA had pursued and we were scouting their presence in and around the bordering systems.
Once again I led the attack with my newly christened Megathron the SFS "Bale Fire" and emerged from warp to face the Deimos that had earlier destroyed "blood music". I destroyed that brave pilot in a hail of mega ion rounds while his patrol mates in the Zealot and a new Ferrox class Battlecruiser poured a lot of firepower into my ship.
The zealot and Ferrox died shortly after from my guns and the fortuitous arrival of a reinforcement Star Fraction Armaggedon commanded by Kale Ryoko of Omerta Syndicate.
Another CVA cruiser and heavy assault cruiser pair were despatched in a nearby system and our enemies retreated for the time.
Now Graelyn, the reason I am telling you this is that clearly you don't have a clue what is actually going on. There is a war being fought and its vicious and deadly. Whatever the comments from the peanut gallery there are brave actions being fought in space and you'll understand my frustration to hear you spout second hand propaganda for the CVA alliance.
Is that all Aegis Militia is now Graelyn? Just some kind of second cheerleading line for the CVA. Because if thats the case I suggest you declare war on the star fraction and come and find out just how little we are trying. I somehow think our idolence and lascitude might be enough to "not try" your little ships into annhiliation.
Just some words from somebody actually fighting.
The CVA is having a hard time from my perspective. They are losing capital ships regularly and suffering defeats in almost every engagement with even odds. They have some very good pilots and they are gradually moving away from Amarri fleet technology to adapt to our tactics, but the fact remains that SF is an alliance with about a third of their active combat numbers with about a 1/10th of their campaign experience and we are now inflicting more damage on the enemy in their own ground than we are receiving in turn.
However the politicians might wish to spin it that represents a major improvement on the early war situation and diminishment of CVA capability.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 15:35:00 -
[5]
Quote:
Well they do have credibility, the respect of the Eve universe community and a long history of successful activities just as the Matari UshraKhan do.
Why do you respect a slave owning alliance that considers you less than an animal Wakita. How does that work?
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 15:41:00 -
[6]
Could you answer my question please Wakita?
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 15:55:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Wakita
Quote:
"Why do you respect a slave owning alliance that considers you less than an animal Wakita. How does that work?"
They are an honorable enemy although they must all die. I will do almost anything to see my family freed but I will not sacrifice my principles. Principles apparently the SF lacks.
Wakita
Call of Freedom
We Shall be Free
I don't understand how you can honour a race and alliance that considers you nothing more than animal and item of chattel to be bartered and used to display status. I don't understand how you can cite principles in dealing with people who use a chemically addictive substance on women and children and men to ensure they will die if they are removed from their slavers.
I don't understand you. Please explain.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 17:31:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/04/2005 17:37:46
Originally by: Gaius Kador
This thread disgusts me.
I despise the SF and what it claims to stand for, almost as much as I despise the UK for what they do to the Empire.
However, there is something called respect between warriors, grown from matching one another through wits, skills and pure courage. Honor.
I am not ashamed to state my deepest respect for some of the pilots of the Ushra'Khan. I am a warrior, I live for the fight, and I fight to serve. I see these ideals, eventhough twisted and misguided, reflected in some of their pilots. They fight and they die with Honor.
The very essence and nature of this kind of thread fills me with disgust. The very headline displays such blatant disrespect and groweling cowardice in face of your enemy, it made me wonder what mettle the Star Fraction really have for the fight.
Are you proud fighters, flying the banner for your cause in pride, or are you spindoctors, twisting the truth to reach your goal by whichever malicious means possible?
I am Amarr, I am PIE, for me there is only Honor and Death.
For the Empire.
You see Gaius here is my problem with CVA and Matari like Wakita. You both prattle on about honour and respect and dignity and the bravery of the mutual combatents like you were gentlemen combatents having some kind of friendly joust.
But everytime a ship is destroyed you doom hundreds and thousands to death. Yet still you go on lining up like prespacefaring generals with rows of muskets and complimenting the opposing commanders and inviting them to afternoon tea after the battle is over and the dead are left floating in space.
I just don't understand it. Elsewhere mr Kador you are happy to discribe the Matari as less than animals and subhuman nothings unworthy of freedom or choice or life itself. You produce reams of diatribe about how God makes you the superior race and blesses your economically-crippled slave economy.
Yet when it comes to fighting suddenly you are full of respect and honour and understanding and sympathy for your foes. It just makes no sense. Either you think the Matari are subhuman cattle or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
And for Matari like Wakita either you hate the Amarri as vitoc using oppressors enslaving your race or you actually like them and have strong feelings of love and mutual respect.
I don't understand how respect can exist between the master and the slave.
I don't understand how vitoc is dignified.
I don't understand how religious superiority and cultural genocide engenders camaraderie.
Its a foreign language to me and its just looks and feels so totally wrong. This CVA vs Matari war has turned into a private dance between a pair of lovers too embarrassed to admit the bonds of affection and desire between them.
Why don't you just make peace and get into each other's tribal robes if you love each other so much!
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 17:38:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Halseth Durn
This thread is wonderful! I believe that the Jericho PR/propaganda onslaught of the GNW may actually be eclipsed by their transparent efforts in this conflict.
Congrats CVA! You must have really twisted their panties to get this kind of a concentrated campaign.
Hello Wakita! 
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 19:24:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Gaius Kador
I guess SF answered my question clearly enough.
You haven't answered my questions though mr Kador. I really want to understand this whole love/honour/respect enemy pod-pilots while despising their race and considering them less than animals thing you have going on.
Please enlighten me.
Star Fraction
|
|
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 20:16:00 -
[11]
Well Gaven, a quick look at the respective kill lists shows you losing a lot more battleships that we are so IÆm guessing that a lot more Amarri paramilitaries are dying than volunteer freespacers in raw crew terms so IÆm not sure you want to progress that line of discussion much further.
And yes, for sure we mean nothing and achieve nothing and all your love is saved up for your honourable and dignified Matari prey every night and vast fleet battles continually whirl up in the realms of your imagination where stately jousts and mutually respectful contests of courage appear where nobody really dies except the poor crew and the immortals shake each otherÆs hands before returning to the business of preaching pro vitoc slavery or revolutionary freedom in the tired old ways. etc etc blah blah blah.
The ships we are destroying are just training barges and practise targets with skeleton crews of no moment eh Gaven? I thought so.
The fact you would defend your puppet Wakita is no surprise to me Amarrian, after all that one is pretty much in love with the cult of CVA personality and is more your creature than a dozen vitoc-addled victims elsewhere. The only person whoÆs seen her latest ramblings with anything other than embarrassed incredulity would seem to be the CVA. Suspicious eh?
As for honour in war what total rot. There is no honour in killing people. Its hard and dirty work and the souls of the dead donÆt thank you for honourable conduct and ridiculous rituals of faux camaraderie. For you to say that wrong and evil men can fight with honour and be worthy for enslavement is to betray the whole inane edifice of your silly war.
As for turning that back and accusing the Star Fraction of having no honour what a pointless thing to say. I donÆt want your respect Amarrian, I just want you to die repeatedly until such time as you are forced to drop the reclaiming element of your armed militia doctrine in regards to freespace.
Your opinion of whether I am ôimportantö or not is irrelevant to me; in fact IÆd rather you dismissed my battleship out of hand as a worthless and useless vessel incapable of doing you harm. ItÆs an old adage of warfare that one should never interrupt an opponent while he is making a mistake after all. Keep thinking we are nothing, here, IÆll help you:
ôwe are nothing à there there, go back to sleep itÆll all be over soon."
But there you go talking of ôworthinessö again, why would we care what you think of our worthiness? I donÆt care two hoots what you think about me. Why would I need your validation?
To me the CVA is a rogue paramilitary alliance trying to foist a reclaimer subtext on a nearly deserted area of 0.0 space in defiance of your own EmperorÆs wishes. You fight well in a group but are ordered not to engage us in duels because we know what ship classes you will fly (unless its imperial dreams because they fly whatever they like) and of course nobody has any clue what I am going to be flying (nudge megathron, nudge nudge).
IÆve got no idea what your litter making nonsense is about unless you paid that novice pilot to start that silly thread, but really, I canÆt see the point of your propaganda Gaven.
Way I see it weÆre achieving our goals every day. Five weeks ago the CVA golden fleet was a terrible spectre of competence and capability. Now its something of a joke thatÆs always somewhere else doing something more important and the might of the CVA is a few lonely looking empire pilots fearing to undock unless they have five to one odds.
Not a bad turnaround for a brand new alliance with a third of your combat pilots and a tenth of your experience in a month.
See you in space.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 20:39:00 -
[12]
Quote:
I thank God that there are threads like this that inject a bit of humour in my life. It is quite funny to see the SF saying that they are smashing our fleet apart, and that now the CVA is nothing more than a disorganised mob, and all thanks to you. You make it sound like you are the single enemy of the CVA and like a knight in shining armour have gone to the rescue of the UK and the various pirate factions in Providence. The minmatar terrorists should really thank you for being able to beat us so badly.
I don't adhere to the tradition of letting other people put words into my mouth so they can smash the statements down with straw man abandon Kostantine. I said what I said and I stand by it. If the vastly superior CVA is so sorely pressed by pirates in providence and your other foes you should take another look at the reclaimer subtext of project deliverence no? Otherwise we'll see you in space maybe.
Quote:
I find it funny that you talk about lives, yet you care not a bit about them. This war started due to the Mamet 500, yet you say that you are willing to kill your own men and women in order to free 500 slaves. And then you have the courage of saying that we are wasting our men's lives, for a war you started? Don't make me laugh.
If you are still confused about why the war started I advise you to post on the "ask Pulgor" thread. He has plenty of "clue" to spare. Maybe he can sell you some?
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.24 22:07:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/04/2005 22:16:17
For someone who never logs into your capsule you sure talk a lot Wakita. Seriously take a break, you are sounding almost pathological in your hatred and obsession. Seek help.
Or better yet, join the CVA. Their outlook and policies and appreciation of war as an "honourable sport" are almost indistinguisable from your own.
A CVA alliance ticker would be the perfect badge of "honour" for you Wakita.
If this offends you feel free to login to your capsule and come fight me.
Star Fraction
|
Jasmine Constantine
|
Posted - 2005.04.25 01:34:00 -
[14]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/04/2005 01:40:56
Gaven and others.
When I talked about not caring I said I didn't care what the enemy might think, and didn't care to gain the validation of a bunch of filthy slaving vitoc fiends thinking I was honourable and respectable.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to listen to CVA lies and propaganda without having my say.
I really donÆt understand how you can accuse me of twisting anything. IÆve simply posted my opinion of matters that have come to pass. If you disagree with me you disagree but there is much too much florid language and pointless rhetoric going on here to be honest you raise arguements and statements I haven't even made and claim you defeat illusionary suppositions with baffling verbal gymnastics.
You are hardly going to change my mind on the loyalties IÆve chosen and I have quite plainly expressed my complete lack of need for validation from your lips. Asking me to learn respect for a bunch of craven control freaks who poison children with vitoc is a stupid joke. No oneÆs laughing.
In my considered opinion Wakita is your puppet and is fully indoctrinated with the uncle tom ideology you need in your play partners and yes, I say ôplayö advisedly because thatÆs what you are in the habit of doing, ôplayingö at war with ridiculous rules and the conceit of honour and respect for people you consider subhuman animals and sorry if it offends you but IÆm not the kind gal to ôplayö along with that.
Wakita is a tool of yours. Admit it or not, it changes nothing.
As for your carping and mock grief at the loss of your people donÆt make me laugh. You have absolutely no respect for human life and your extremist religious tyranny needs to be burned to ash to progress a brighter future for humankind.
Like my comments to Wakita earlier I will say the same to you. I am not going to be judged by the words of my comrades and allies and you are wasting your breath to make the effort.
I am Jasmine Constantine a free-captain and independently affiliated member of Jericho Fraction and I speak for myself. If you canÆt function without running scared to some collectivist psychodramatics then thereÆs no point you even speaking to me. Address me as an individual or not at all, itÆs all the same to me.
Any attempt to put words into my mouth or erect the straw-man arguments you are so fond of have no effect whatsoever on my conviction. I do what I think is right and will keep doing it.
You want to end the war talk to a diplomat.
My skills are considerably more direct and less prone to ambiguity.
See you in space.
Star Fraction
|
|
|
| |
|