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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
989
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Posted - 2012.11.22 09:24:00 -
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Comy 1 wrote:6 probes is actually a really nice amount for high scan strength if you place 4 in a standard square and have the last 2 above and below the center in the Z-plane so to speak. 7 probes I have no idea how you would make a useful pattern with. 6 yep, Octahedron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octahedron 7 would be the same as 6, just with the center probe |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
849
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Posted - 2012.11.22 12:27:00 -
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I do actually know a fair few top notch scanners that use 7 probes. 6 at 4 au in a cross, 1 small in center. with good technique and skills the difference between 7 and 8 probe setups is insignificant, I just prefer the 8.
as a note, they flat way i have the probes setup doesnt actually give the strongest results. using pyramids is stronger but much fiddlier to set up.
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valerydarcy
Mindstar Technology Fatal Ascension
4080
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Posted - 2012.11.22 13:41:00 -
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Wow... you people know JACK about scanning.
There is a way to lock all signatures down to 100% (even the faintest) with one click at 64AU.
Its simple.. MOAR probes.
This is the secret CCP didnt want you to know.. but you heard it hear first.
Drop 8 probes (or as many as you have skill to drop).
Leave system.
Return to your location, drop 8 more.
Leave system.
Rinse and repeat 100 times until you have 800 probes.
Hit scan, bingo.
Post with your mainGäó |
Terminal Insanity
Suicides-R-Us BricK sQuAD.
693
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Posted - 2012.11.22 13:51:00 -
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I used to use single probes at key locations, like on gates etc as detectors. You can deactivate them and only move your 4 scanning probes, leaving your 'detector' probes where they are while you try to narrow down on a target. Then reactivate and scan to check on those locations again. I caught many fleeing ships like this
Now, they've changed it so more probes actually increase scan strength. Now you just 'blob' them all around your target to get that same 100% scan hit you used to get with 4 "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Terminal Insanity
Suicides-R-Us BricK sQuAD.
693
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Posted - 2012.11.22 13:55:00 -
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valerydarcy wrote:Wow... you people know JACK about scanning.
There is a way to lock all signatures down to 100% (even the faintest) with one click at 64AU.
Its simple.. MOAR probes.
This is the secret CCP didnt want you to know.. but you heard it hear first.
Drop 8 probes (or as many as you have skill to drop).
Leave system.
Return to your location, drop 8 more.
Leave system.
Rinse and repeat 100 times until you have 800 probes.
Hit scan, bingo.
... is that legal? if so... i think people's dscan is gonna get scary in my system "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Demolishar
United Aggression
454
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Posted - 2012.11.22 13:58:00 -
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valerydarcy wrote:Wow... you people know JACK about scanning.
There is a way to lock all signatures down to 100% (even the faintest) with one click at 64AU.
Its simple.. MOAR probes.
This is the secret CCP didnt want you to know.. but you heard it hear first.
Drop 8 probes (or as many as you have skill to drop).
Leave system.
Return to your location, drop 8 more.
Leave system.
Rinse and repeat 100 times until you have 800 probes.
Hit scan, bingo.
LOL WUT
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Alice Saki
21139
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Posted - 2012.11.22 13:59:00 -
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Oh no My Secret is out! All You're Likes Belong to Me. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
454
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Posted - 2012.11.22 14:10:00 -
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That doesn't even work! |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1475
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Posted - 2012.11.22 18:21:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:That doesn't even work!
It doesn't? D:
I actually was beginning to think we were on the apex of a scanning revolution!
I'll like his post anyway for the creativity, I never thought of that xD The Drake is a Lie |
Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
5502
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Posted - 2012.11.22 19:08:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:That doesn't even work! Dude it soo works. You must be doing it wrong. Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |
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Angeal MacNova
LankTech Adult Entertainment Alliance
40
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Posted - 2012.11.22 19:19:00 -
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Something that does work though....
If you click on your probe it displays a tag and if you click on this tag the camera centers on the probe. That much is a given. If you click on the red dot, you don't get a tag and so you can't center the camera onto it automatically.
Instead, zoom out as far as you can can position the camera to put as much things in between the dot and the camera and then mouse over. You can get the tags to stack and this includes a tag for the dot. You can now click on the tag for the red dot and cause the camera to center itself onto it.
I don't know if this is something people already knew about, it was something that just happened to me once and so I kept on doing it. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
309
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Posted - 2012.11.23 06:35:00 -
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valerydarcy wrote:Wow... you people know JACK about scanning.
There is a way to lock all signatures down to 100% (even the faintest) with one click at 64AU.
Its simple.. MOAR probes.
This is the secret CCP didnt want you to know.. but you heard it hear first.
Drop 8 probes (or as many as you have skill to drop).
Leave system.
Return to your location, drop 8 more.
Leave system.
Rinse and repeat 100 times until you have 800 probes.
Hit scan, bingo.
Funny thing though, by the time you are dropping your 400'th probe I am already scanning the next system |
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
103
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Posted - 2012.11.23 08:02:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs.
Sometimes I have trouble with some sites and 4 probes just doesn't do the job. You need all 6 axis to lock down the really tough scans. |
Zendon Taredi
Doodus Exploration Corporation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.23 11:38:00 -
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I use an X with a probe on top and one below. Really easy to set up, and it works. |
Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment
35
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Posted - 2012.11.23 12:47:00 -
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The reason why you use more than 4 probes now were explained already. In combat, if you aren't probing a Carrier or a huge BS fleet, you almost ever use 7 probes. Simple reason is you want only one cycle to be sucessful so the chances your target see the probes are minimal. Good prober need about 2mins to track down the target location + range from a celestial via dscan and setup the probes out of the target's dscan range. The target then has about 10s to see the probes as they are warping in/out and scanning. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
343
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Posted - 2012.11.23 13:41:00 -
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Zendon Taredi wrote:I use an X with a probe on top and one below. Really easy to set up, and it works.
I normally use the gravy (7 probe) version unless I know that I'm scanning for just one specific target.
My rationale is that setting up the extra probe (or probes) takes a little bit longer, but since I can move and resize my pattern (with shift and alt moves) I get that time back unless I just want a quick on a target I know I can easily tag with fewer probes.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
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valerydarcy
Mindstar Technology Fatal Ascension
4224
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Posted - 2012.11.23 14:44:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:valerydarcy wrote:Wow... you people know JACK about scanning.
There is a way to lock all signatures down to 100% (even the faintest) with one click at 64AU.
Its simple.. MOAR probes.
This is the secret CCP didnt want you to know.. but you heard it hear first.
Drop 8 probes (or as many as you have skill to drop).
Leave system.
Return to your location, drop 8 more.
Leave system.
Rinse and repeat 100 times until you have 800 probes.
Hit scan, bingo.
Funny thing though, by the time you are dropping your 400'th probe I am already scanning the next system
youre doing it wrong. Post with your mainGäó |
Delilah Tsuruomo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.23 16:01:00 -
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Well it depends, I presonally use 7 sisters cores and 1 deep space so I can determine which sig is what and which one I want to do next.
I lower class wh's with lots of seperate planets, I do 8 probes in 2 groups. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
795
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Posted - 2012.11.23 16:08:00 -
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Delilah Tsuruomo wrote:Well it depends, I presonally use 7 sisters cores and 1 deep space so I can determine which sig is what and which one I want to do next.
I lower class wh's with lots of seperate planets, I do 8 probes in 2 groups.
How well does that work with shift and alt moves and resizes?
I suspect it doesn't? FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.11.23 17:53:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Xercodo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Wait, what's this "alt-key shortcut" thing.... if there's a way to scan faster, I wanna know about it. Press and hold alt while dragging probes it and it scale them in or out from their relative center point. And afaik this feature is well over a year old now hehe. The feature may be old, but I'm still relatively new - six months now. I've been doing tonnes of probing but I've never heard of this. This is the first time, no one tells me ****.
Welcome to the universe of CCP - where relevant documentation is left up to the user.
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Demolishar
United Aggression
462
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Posted - 2012.11.23 18:00:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Xercodo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Wait, what's this "alt-key shortcut" thing.... if there's a way to scan faster, I wanna know about it. Press and hold alt while dragging probes it and it scale them in or out from their relative center point. And afaik this feature is well over a year old now hehe. The feature may be old, but I'm still relatively new - six months now. I've been doing tonnes of probing but I've never heard of this. This is the first time, no one tells me ****. Welcome to the universe of CCP - where relevant documentation is left up to the user.
Actually the feature is relatively new too. |
blake fallout
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:01:00 -
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Kobal81 wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs. "Because I fecking can"
Roflmao, I Would expect more Probs = faster Results -i havent done any probing in quite some time (but more=faster) Linkin park |
Nakkano
Internet Space Pimps
1
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:07:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
Actually, if you use the right keyboard shortcuts (ALT and SHIFT), positioning 4 is no faster than using 7 or 8. It's identical, once you get past the step of initially deploying the probes. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
310
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:58:00 -
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Nakkano wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
Actually, if you use the right keyboard shortcuts (ALT and SHIFT), positioning 4 is no faster than using 7 or 8. It's identical, once you get past the step of initially deploying the probes.
I thought initially 4 were the max number that affected scan results (as it was 2 years ago). I was also referencing using 8 probes by doing 4/4 on two separate sigs versus using 4 with alt/shift one after the other.
But you're right, there would be no difference save the clutter of probes at this point. |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9 Quantum Cafe
111
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Posted - 2012.11.26 15:46:00 -
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Why would anyone think that 4 probes is as effective as 7 or 8? Sure you can find some things with 4, but not as many as 7 and DEFINITELY not as fast, especially in larger systems. (Quick commands for spacing and moving groups makes this a dream now.) Some wh systems make it even harder to scan due to effects. By all means keep using 4, less competition for the rest of us.
As to needing a corp... it certainly helps, but no means necessary. When I first tried them out I just went in a C3 by myself with a medium tower. Even went the nomadic rout into systems already occupied as many corps just squat there and only clean it out every couple weeks or so. But that can definitely get you in a pickle. eventually we made the jump to permanent settlement.
Now, more and more traffic is coming through so if you want to actually keep the system, the standard EVE rules apply... the more the better. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
872
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Posted - 2012.11.26 22:04:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Some wh systems make it even harder to scan due to effects.
False. (Unless you are referring to combat probing ships.) |
nat longshot
solo and loveing it
128
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Posted - 2012.11.26 22:56:00 -
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i use 7 sister probe and sister launcher with t3 my probe str is 101.6. 7 probe mean i cover more area faster and with 7 probes i can jump from 32au to 8 au to 2 au to .25 au all in all save a load of time. |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1486
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Posted - 2012.11.26 23:34:00 -
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I like how as part of the first page my more explanatory and concise post has one like and demo's has 21 D: The Drake is a Lie |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
311
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Posted - 2012.11.27 05:20:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:I like how as part of the first page my more explanatory and concise post has one like and demo's has 21 D:
I know how it feels bro o/_ _\o
here is one like. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2012.11.27 05:56:00 -
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Now, if only I could use [alt] right after launching to set them into "cube" formation and the like... |
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