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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
309
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:55:00 -
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I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs. |

Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
524
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:57:00 -
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You can cover more area and detect intersections quicker. |

Demolishar
United Aggression
443
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:58:00 -
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Because they changed probing from the old system - now the more probes you have the better sig strength you get. |

Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1444
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:58:00 -
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A year or so ago the probing math only used the best 4 when figuring out the scan results and strength of signatures. When it got changed it allowed ALL probes to contribute to the sig strength. Because of this the scanning algorithm was changed to factor in the new maximum. Now, 7 probes is the preferred number to still maintain good scan strength without taking the extra skill time that astro 5 takes. Also using 7 to do the 6 sides of a cube and then one in the center is still easy to manage :D The Drake is a Lie |

Kobal81
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:16:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs.
"Because I fecking can" "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit" |

Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1445
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:35:00 -
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Kobal81 wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs. "Because I fecking can"
No, I believe that's response to..
Why are you flying a laser machariel? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer with a smartbomb on it? Why were you mining in an abaddon? Why did you mine a full can of veldspar with only 4 turrets on marauder and then turn the can blue and announce in local "FREE ORE" while tractoring it around with a MWD on? (and get chased by a equally silly Golem?) The Drake is a Lie |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
309
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:00:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:Because they changed probing from the old system - now the more probes you have the better sig strength you get.
You sure? I'll test later and see if that's true. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3525
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:37:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:
No, I believe that's response to..
Why are you flying a laser machariel? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer with a smartbomb on it? Why were you mining in an abaddon? Why did you mine a full can of veldspar with only 4 turrets on marauder and then turn the can blue and announce in local "FREE ORE" while tractoring it around with a MWD on? (and get chased by a equally silly Golem?)
I've just got some really strange looks because of the amount of snorts and laughter this post produced, you sir have just won the most amusing post I've seen all day award. ---CCP can't patch stupid--- Corporation sales, with hisec POS rights
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:45:00 -
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Question to the OP...Where do you primarily scan at? Ie; low sec, null, high cause this matters as far as signal strength is concerned. Oderint Dum Metuant |

Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1447
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:48:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xercodo wrote:
No, I believe that's response to..
Why are you flying a laser machariel? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer? Why did you fly a pre-Inferno procurer with a smartbomb on it? Why were you mining in an abaddon? Why did you mine a full can of veldspar with only 4 turrets on marauder and then turn the can blue and announce in local "FREE ORE" while tractoring it around with a MWD on? (and get chased by a equally silly Golem?)
I've just got some really strange looks because of the amount of snorts and laughter this post produced, you sir have just won the most amusing post I've seen all day award. 
The kicker is that they're all true.
Procurer went something like this:
"Hey 1v1 my vexor" "Okay I'll try with my glass cannon omen to see how it does" *pew pew explode* *dock* *undock* RAWRARHAHAHHA PHEAR THE BOMBER PROCURER *hits an iteron as it undocked* *CONCORDOKEN* The Drake is a Lie |

Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3525
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:50:00 -
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lol I know they're true, I've done similar, normally involving a cruiser with an outsize weapon from another race and a cargo full of npcs ---CCP can't patch stupid--- Corporation sales, with hisec POS rights
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Alice Saki
Mug of Coffee
21098
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:59:00 -
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8 because I can? All You're Likes Belong to Me. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3626
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:04:00 -
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In before "It takes 4 to operate the handtruck to lug my massive balls around"  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

BoBoZoBo
MGroup9 Quantum Cafe
110
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:27:00 -
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It makes a difference.
More area covered Better triangulation & fewer ghosts Faster sig acquisition Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |

YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.11.21 21:01:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:In before "It takes 4 to operate the handtruck to lug my massive balls around" 
It worries me that you have chosen a female avatar, but still need to lug your balls around with a handtruck.....
I'm not a troll! I just play one on TV! I'm not a troll!, But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
5417
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Posted - 2012.11.21 21:39:00 -
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YoYo NickyYo wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:In before "It takes 4 to operate the handtruck to lug my massive balls around"  It worries me that you have chosen a female avatar, but still need to lug your balls around with a handtruck.....  No dude, she's badass like that. Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2012.11.21 21:43:00 -
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Location, scanning ship, signal strength, probe type....I usually find 5 is faster than 4, but in some WH's I have had to use 7 combat probes to scan down an anomaly in an exploration Tengu. |

Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
5418
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Posted - 2012.11.21 21:51:00 -
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Cheetah + 7 sister combat probes = win Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
251
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Posted - 2012.11.21 22:37:00 -
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I succeed quite well (and quickly) with 4 probes; only RARELY do I need a fifth, and that's typically because I wasn't paying attention. Using all 6 or whatever just because you read something about it on the forums is really kinda silly.
Get your Astro skills up to at least L4 on all, use Sisters gear plus Grav Cap, and throw in a bonused ship for good measure, and you don't need to embarass yourselves posting non-sense on the Forums anymore.
Unless you're into that... |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
843
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Posted - 2012.11.21 22:45:00 -
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Use 8 probes. I'll leave this here as a reference as to why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TisDb8c2aS4
Yes, you CAN use 4 probes to lock down any sig. That said, it's about as efficient as running L4 missions in an armour tanked drake. |

Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1461
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Posted - 2012.11.21 22:49:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:I succeed quite well (and quickly) with 4 probes; only RARELY do I need a fifth, and that's typically because I wasn't paying attention. Using all 6 or whatever just because you read something about it on the forums is really kinda silly.
Get your Astro skills up to at least L4 on all, use Sisters gear plus Grav Cap, and throw in a bonused ship for good measure, and you don't need to embarass yourselves posting non-sense on the Forums anymore.
Unless you're into that...
Even dev posts explaining why they made a change you're claiming hasn't happened?
The Drake is a Lie |

Ludi Burek
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
196
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Posted - 2012.11.22 00:05:00 -
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I tend to just drop DSP and then go with 4 probes starting at 8au. By the time it takes to set up 8 probes my 4 are already down to at 2au or lower.
Having said that, if there are many signatures in system it's worthwhile taking the slightly longer set up time for more probes for the reasons already mentioned. |

Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
138
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Posted - 2012.11.22 00:28:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:I use 4. With the shift/alt shortcuts I find using 4 is faster than trying to use more, but I could understand why one would like to keep a 5th one in the center.
I see people using 7 or 8 probes at once though and I just wonder, is there some secret technique that makes scanning actually faster with more probes?
On paper 8 would scan twice as fast as 4 when you have more than 1 signature, but the alt key shortcut makes it faster to just use 4 on both sigs.
mainly because im in a hurry
yes, on paper 8 is twice as fast as 4, but with alt youre faster to just use 4 for both sigs
that leaves 30 sigs.....
simple answer is, more probes make it easier to scan things down. if you occasionally scan something down, dont bother training. However people that run plex all the time, or, live in a wormhole quickly realize that that life with less then 7 probes amounts to hell |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.11.22 00:45:00 -
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Wait, what's this "alt-key shortcut" thing.... if there's a way to scan faster, I wanna know about it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1462
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Wait, what's this "alt-key shortcut" thing.... if there's a way to scan faster, I wanna know about it.
Press and hold alt while dragging probes it and it scale them in or out from their relative center point.
And afaik this feature is well over a year old now hehe. The Drake is a Lie |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
129
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:12:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Wait, what's this "alt-key shortcut" thing.... if there's a way to scan faster, I wanna know about it. Press and hold alt while dragging probes it and it scale them in or out from their relative center point. And afaik this feature is well over a year old now hehe.
The feature may be old, but I'm still relatively new - six months now. I've been doing tonnes of probing but I've never heard of this. This is the first time, no one tells me ****. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
309
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:18:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:I succeed quite well (and quickly) with 4 probes; only RARELY do I need a fifth, and that's typically because I wasn't paying attention. Using all 6 or whatever just because you read something about it on the forums is really kinda silly.
Get your Astro skills up to at least L4 on all, use Sisters gear plus Grav Cap, and throw in a bonused ship for good measure, and you don't need to embarass yourselves posting non-sense on the Forums anymore.
Unless you're into that... Even dev posts explaining why they made a change you're claiming hasn't happened?
Win. Actually the answer I was looking for.
Iv'e been reading patch notes for the last 5 expansions and it got ninja patched lol. |

Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:37:00 -
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Because space is three dimensional and it looks cooler. |

CraftyCroc
Gunpoint Diplomacy
54
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Posted - 2012.11.22 08:53:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Use 8 probes. I'll leave this here as a reference as to why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TisDb8c2aS4Yes, you CAN use 4 probes to lock down any sig. That said, it's about as efficient as running L4 missions in an armour tanked drake.
Not seen this method of setting up probes
+1
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
130
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Posted - 2012.11.22 08:57:00 -
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4 probes is pretty much the minimum. 5 probes are for those special kids who want a center. 6 probes is actually a really nice amount for high scan strength if you place 4 in a standard square and have the last 2 above and below the center in the Z-plane so to speak. 7 probes I have no idea how you would make a useful pattern with. 8 probes is already covered by Jack's post, and probably used by most WH dwellers who value their own time. This technique starts to shine really bright when you have pretty much maxed probe skills and preferably some implant(s) to get e.g. above 25% result on sig size 10 with the 8au probes. |
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