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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.22 14:53:00 -
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Bengal Bob wrote:EU TZ the Amarr outnumber the Minmatar and have for some months now. They lack leaderships though so still tend to sit docked in Kamela. About 20-30 most nights, but sometimes up to 40 sitting in station complaining about pvp  Pretty much the only fleets I see are from SORE, IPROT and AGONY, although they don't often seem to work together. Still a lot of fun to be had, although increasingly skirmish fleets that are cruiser down so that people can cover as many systems and plexes as possible and respond quickly. Big BS gangs seem to be a thing of the past.
I agree we defiantely lack a form of unified leadership. Agony tend to stick to small gangs and its becoming harder to get the rest of the Amarr milita to be friendly to eachother let alone work closely together.
I disagree about Kamela though, allot less people stay docked these days. Speaking for IPROT we are hardly ever docked if we can help it the issue is we just cant field the same level of PILOT SP you guys can so our ship choices are limited. You can drops caps and have the financial advantage and we just cant counter that. Also i really dont think we outnumber you at all, at least i dont see that from our side.
I dont blame you guys for dropping caps ect, i would if i could but sometimes its excessive. Archon and a Bhaalgorn on a crusier fleet alongside all your BS and BC.
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AndromacheDarkstar
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:03:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Do the Minmatar still fly nothing but SFI's? I picked up a few of those a while back and they are just insane for a cruiser. Considering how cheap they must be in their LP store I almost couldn't see a reason to fly anything else if I were Minmatar.
I would imagine it must get old fighting those things all day if you were Amarr..
Actually less so, its been a while since ive seen a massive SFI blob, found 12 of them last night. I personnaly like finding them on their own which we seem to allot, always juicy kills and can be handled in small ships. In a gang they become less fun but hey if i was in the minmatar id be doing the same thing. And hopefully with the winter changes and the knock on effects they will have i will be able to do just that. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
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Posted - 2012.11.22 20:51:00 -
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roigon wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Bengal Bob wrote:EU TZ the Amarr outnumber the Minmatar and have for some months now. They lack leaderships though so still tend to sit docked in Kamela. About 20-30 most nights, but sometimes up to 40 sitting in station complaining about pvp  Pretty much the only fleets I see are from SORE, IPROT and AGONY, although they don't often seem to work together. Still a lot of fun to be had, although increasingly skirmish fleets that are cruiser down so that people can cover as many systems and plexes as possible and respond quickly. Big BS gangs seem to be a thing of the past. I agree we defiantely lack a form of unified leadership. Agony tend to stick to small gangs and its becoming harder to get the rest of the Amarr milita to be friendly to eachother let alone work closely together. Meh, unified leadership is overrated. I'd much rather see collaborative leadership. If you have a goal in mind just start calling around and try to get other corps to help. If you then fail at getting the support needed to execute then there wasn't any wide support for it anyway. As for agony flying small gangs. One would almost think we where a small gang pvp corporation.  However, if you want to organise something bigger just send an eve mail or convo someone. We don't bite and the worst that can happen is that we aren't interested or simply don't have the people online for it.
Dont take it the wrong way, im not saying its an isue that you fly in small gangs, only that generally that removes you from the equation in larger fleet fights. We actually quite often end up flying with a couple of your guys in fleet or feeding us intel ect we just wouldnt come across a 30 agony fleet, not an issue im just pointing it out. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
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Posted - 2012.11.23 07:56:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:What a load of horsecrap.
Apparently SFI's are so cheap in the LP store you'd have to be an idiot not to use them when in Militia, but somehow can't get ahold of them in Amarr militia. Apparently, no one ever sells the hulls outside of Militia and they are never on sale in Jita or Rens or Hek or Dodixie. I mean...what's the eyeroll emotion?
The fact is, Amarr suffers from the same problem Minmatar does, with old hands and old corps stubbornly sticking to their own corners and own fleets, and not being happy-go-lucky sociable with every scrub and noob in Militia. The only difference is that you obviously lack numbers of old hands, which is an historic thing and won't change until you work on the social aspects. Given most Fweddit people are manchildren or mentally disabled, a third of your allegedly "decent PVPers" are douchenozzles hanging around Hek undock, and the rest of you have aspergers syndrme, you have bugger all chance of changing anything, let alone pushing territory.
Take some anti-aspergers meds, get over your inferiority complex (via Cialis or viagra), and deal with it.
Ill admit the minmattar get alot of **** pinned on them but you cant fail to agree there is a major differnece between buying SFI`s with LP and buying them outright. I dont think you can argue against the fact that the minmatar are generally richer (which i think is still half our fault for not trying to plex harder) so replacing the ships becomes easier.
I do object to the aspergers line though, some of us are still trying to put some emphasis on plexing and system control alongside the PVP, its just tough to get the numbers to compete. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.23 07:58:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Sadly the amarr lack FCs these days and/or just general organization. I feel that in the EU timezone we are usually outnumbered these days. But most Amarrios just seem to be sitting in Kamela station, waiting for someone to tell the what to do. A few newer corps are very active and trying hard but on their own they often won't have the numbers and sometimes still lack the experience. But props to those still giving us fights. Fiscal Fisting, Forced Penetration, Agony, Blackwatch guard and even that random french corp whose name i always forget. Bring it on.  /edit Also, there's still people complaining about SFI blobs? It's going on for ages now and you guys still haven't figured out a counter? I also heard rumors about SFIs for sale on the market.
Thanks for the recognition, we do try and bring the fights. Hopefully one day soon once out experiance and SP have built up a little more we can start to make them even more interesting. Also i dont think people complain about SSFI`s so much now, just an accepted part of life. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.23 16:24:00 -
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Almity wrote:I have no clue where all this "Amarr are losing" crap comes from. Since the week before inferno we have been getting awesome fights and we win many of them. I.Law, Fweddit, tmfed, ect in the US TZ have been kicking some ass.
I.Law broke 1k kills in each of the last two months and we have a chance of doing it again this month. We fight the SFI "blob" and do pretty damn well against it most fights. I can't speak for the EU TZ but in the US TZ Amarr is strong.
EU TZ not so much, we try and i think we are getting better. Give it another couple of months and i think the EU TZ will be allot tighter and more effective, we give and get fights all the time and fun is always had so thats what counts. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:10:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:[quote=Colt Blackhawk]Yep Pinky got the point. The minnies run always when they do not outnumber us minimum 2:1. In reality they are mostly craven. They completely fear to loose ships.
ItGÇÖs a tough one, Pinky definitely has a good point. Our alliance tried to grab fights as much as we can but whenever we do it does seem to be a case of being out blobbed or hot dropped. I can think of a number of times recently, having our cruiser gang dropped on by an archon, bhaalgorn BS and BC fleet after they had re-shipped from stabbers to take us on. The other day we took out a baddon fleet only to have twice our numbers show up in faction battleships. We frequently have Dreads dropped on undocks and archons on camps.
The thing is im kind of confused as to whether or not this is a valid complaint, the thing is we are at "war" and therefore the aim is to win, if you have more assets and more pilots should you have to gimp yourself to make it equal? what would I do in their position?
ItGÇÖs a shame for us because I think our alliance has reached the point where we donGÇÖt really want to field our BC/BS fleets with logi ect as much because no matter what we do we cant really win, they have more pilots more isk and bigger ships to drop on us and a much more experianced player base, so we stick to frigates and destroyers and occasionally crusiers and get much better results. Now from an EU TZ persepecitve it seems we were the only people fielding these larger fleets around our area (please correct me if you think im wrong, hell get in touch with me and we can work together) so unless someone steps up the minmatar arnt going to be able to have those bigger fights which is a real shame.
And like pinky says the times where we get a chance at a fair fight it realy does seem like you guys dock up and wait. Its not all bad for Amarr though, recently we have had some fantastic team work (agony/Iprot/Fweddit pos defense fleet) and maybe given a bit more time we can get people working together forming fleets a bit more and maybe being abel to counter minmatar numbers.
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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.29 17:46:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:People like to win and dont like to lose, it really is that simple sometimes. As much as people may want it to be different unless you have an RvB style 'equal sides' arrangement its never going to stop being an issue and I cant see that happening any time soon.
Its something we're as guilty of as anyone else who flies in the areas involved but its something you just have to deal with.
talking of which you popped one of our dreads last night, good work with that. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:58:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Heh, nice one Pinky. That shut them up right fast.
id at least give people some more time to reply before posting that Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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AndromacheDarkstar
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:06:00 -
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Bengal Bob wrote:I can't understand how, given the Amarrian resurgence, it only takes a few of us to cause the Amarr to dock up in Kamela. Ning, Zen and I spent a couple weeks camping the Amarr in Kamela and disrupting the gangs attempting to plex in Lamaa with no real opposition developing. The minmatar can freely camp Kamela gates with no opposition, which doesn't seem like the Amarr are coming back strongly - at least in the EU TZ.
About the only time we were driven off was when a fleet was formed for that purpose, not for PVP, but several cruisers and battlecruisers to push off 3 or 4 frigs and dessies. THis normally takes several hours to form, and then closes within 30 minutes when we won't leeroy frigs into them.
I have also not seen a 50-100 man Amarr fleet since Nephilim left. Interesting stuff.
Amarr are free to chest beat, but when a few frig pilots are able to close down your home system, then clearly things are not going that well for you.
I call bullshit on that, its takes allot to make us dock up and you will very rarely find our fleets in stations, we are usually whelping them into you guys Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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