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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:09:00 -
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Running thru the latest galnet news whilst he awaited his latest ship to be re-fitted, he came across something which brought his full attention
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Last night a riot is rumoured to have occurred in a slave holding facility somewhere within the Taru system. It's believed the facility where the alleged riot occured is owned by Korramasha Mawhi, a small time slave trader with no record of illegal activities. Solid evidence has been hard to come by, but four ships in Korramasha's possession, including two Zealots and two Sacrileges were seen being piloted by four Matari personel heading towards Minmatar space.
These ships were intercepted and destroyed by two Amarr pilots believed to be employed by Mawhi. When asked why Concord didn't intervene, the Amarr Navy said that it was a purely civil matter which put it under the Navys duristiction, and not Concords. They declined to comment on any further details of the incident.
He raised the comm channel to some scouts FU2 currently had in Amarrian space and ordered them to the Taru system to investigate futher.
A slave uprising? How had they managed to get themsleves free, let along pilot amarrian ships that far. Something was indeed going on here. He patched thru to HQ and informed them of the scout redeployment.
They might just be able to be of help, he could only hope that more of his people would not lose their lives before that could happen.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:19:00 -
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If you read that post a little closer, you'll see the uprising slaves are dead. They got blown up. Taking a dirt nap. Pushing up daisies. Sleeping with the fedo.
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Running thru the latest galnet news whilst he awaited his latest ship to be re-fitted, he came across something which brought his full attention
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Last night a riot is rumoured to have occurred in a slave holding facility somewhere within the Taru system. It's believed the facility where the alleged riot occured is owned by Korramasha Mawhi, a small time slave trader with no record of illegal activities. Solid evidence has been hard to come by, but four ships in Korramasha's possession, including two Zealots and two Sacrileges were seen being piloted by four Matari personel heading towards Minmatar space.
These ships were intercepted and destroyed by two Amarr pilots believed to be employed by Mawhi. When asked why Concord didn't intervene, the Amarr Navy said that it was a purely civil matter which put it under the Navys duristiction, and not Concords. They declined to comment on any further details of the incident.
He raised the comm channel to some scouts FU2 currently had in Amarrian space and ordered them to the Taru system to investigate futher.
A slave uprising? How had they managed to get themsleves free, let along pilot amarrian ships that far. Something was indeed going on here. He patched thru to HQ and informed them of the scout redeployment.
They might just be able to be of help, he could only hope that more of his people would not lose their lives before that could happen.
Yes, Khaldorn, the Revolution has begun... In particular, San Matar is ripe for rebellion. The Abolition Party has grown strong there and the People's forces are ready to march against the corrupt government in Tanoo. The Red Army shall be victorous against these corrupt oppressors. And Ushra'Khan should make every effort to aid them from the air when that time comes.
Fighting has also begun again on the Ndorian moon in the Uplingur system. The slaves are rebelling there as well...
The Reform is sweeping through every dark part of our world with a cleansing fire.
The new wave is coming whether people would have it or not. The question is... will they be on it? Or under it?
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ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 25/04/2005 14:23:53
Indeed, rebellion, uprising. Attacks on Amarr. Working with terrorists against the orders of the Empire.
We know what you stand for Shira.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:28:00 -
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So much for the whole staying faithful on the empire thing. Not enough support, so you have to turn to terrorism. So sad, so very sad...
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Dei Gloria
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 25/04/2005 14:31:38
Still faithful to God, country, and Emperor. They shall not be touched in the coming conflagration.
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ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:34:00 -
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Shira, it looks like we need to talk Amarrian.
All I care about is my peoples freedom. If we have a chance to bring them home, then bring them home we will.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Shira, it looks like we need to talk Amarrian.
All I care about is my peoples freedom. If we have a chance to bring them home, then bring them home we will.
sry, but most of them consider the slave pens their home ;|
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:37:00 -
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If you read the newes item again, you will notice that the alledged riot was only a rumour.
Nothing to see here citizens, move along...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Shira, it looks like we need to talk Amarrian.
All I care about is my peoples freedom. If we have a chance to bring them home, then bring them home we will.
sry, but most of them consider the slave pens their home ;|
And with the luxurious accomodation described by the SPCS guidelines, who can blame them?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Shira, it looks like we need to talk Amarrian.
All I care about is my peoples freedom. If we have a chance to bring them home, then bring them home we will.
sry, but most of them consider the slave pens their home ;|
Admittedly, this is true. That is why once the enemy has been vanquished and the Emperor free from those with the daggers to his throat, we shall allow the freed slaves to choose their fate. If they wish to stay and build the new Amarr Empire, then they may do so... if they wish to return home and spread the Reform, then they may do that as well.
Do not think the Reform stops at our borders... look at my banner... there is the cog... the symbol of industry and the common labourer, with the galaxy inside it... it is a universal movement. All men are equal and all men shall be free.
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ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Admittedly, this is true. That is why once the enemy has been vanquished and the Emperor free from those with the daggers to his throat, we shall allow the freed slaves to choose their fate. If they wish to stay and build the new Amarr Empire, then they may do so... if they wish to return home and spread the Reform, then they may do that as well.
Almost there, pet, almost there..
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Do not think the Reform stops at our borders... look at my banner... there is the cog... the symbol of industry and the common labourer, with the galaxy inside it... it is a universal movement. All men are equal and all men shall be free.
Speaking of your banner, it's absolutely bloated. Mind resizing it?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Speaking of your banner, it's absolutely bloated. Mind resizing it?
Can't right now... will do it when I get in "station" if you catch my drift...
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ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Admittedly, this is true. That is why once the enemy has been vanquished and the Emperor free from those with the daggers to his throat, we shall allow the freed slaves to choose their fate. If they wish to stay and build the new Amarr Empire, then they may do so... if they wish to return home and spread the Reform, then they may do that as well.
You speak much Amarrian. We shall see where this talk leads. But, we will not allow our people to remain slaves of the Amarrian Empire, whether it be under its current guise or under this new guise.
Who decides who comes home? Who shows them the beauties of Matar, the families left behind. Who will show them who they really are Amarrian? and not what the Empire told them they are.
We are Minmatar, we are family...
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:52:00 -
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Khaldorn, the destiny of your people is to be slaves. It is better to work for God that live a lifetime of your "freedom", as you call it.
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Dei Gloria
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
You speak much Amarrian. We shall see where this talk leads. But, we will not allow our people to remain slaves of the Amarrian Empire, whether it be under its current guise or under this new guise.
Who decides who comes home? Who shows them the beauties of Matar, the families left behind. Who will show them who they really are Amarrian? and not what the Empire told them they are.
We are Minmatar, we are family...
You cannot claim to want their freedom and then say that they must come home. It's an individual choice... one that every freedman will have to make. As I said, if they choose to stay, they can. If they want to leave, they'll be perfectly free to do that too.
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Khaldorn, the destiny of your people is to be slaves. It is better to work for God that live a lifetime of your "freedom", as you call it.
Again... the typical corruption of the faith... the original intent of slavery was to bring people into the faith... if the Amarrians had said centuries ago that the destiny of the Ni-Kunni was to be slaves, then you wouldn't be in the position you are now. So the fact that you turn around and deny others that same route just goes to show the lies of the money changers.
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ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:02:00 -
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It is obvious that you have forgotten everything I have ever said on the subject of slavery. I have spoken in one of my sermons about the need for slavery to bring people in the faith. I'm sure you can find it in the archives of Galnet somewhere.
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Dei Gloria
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
It is obvious that you have forgotten everything I have ever said on the subject of slavery. I have spoken in one of my sermons about the need for slavery to bring people in the faith. I'm sure you can find it in the archives of Galnet somewhere.
*shrugs* So then you're just contradicting yourself now by saying it's the Minmatars' destiny to be slaves... Fine. You're even more of a hypocrit then.
Do you want to stop talking now?
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
All I care about is my peoples freedom. If we have a chance to bring them home, then bring them home we will.
Sorry, cant have any of that.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:08:00 -
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I don't really see how I was contradicting myself, but then again, contradicting is something you are rather good at yourself, too.
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Dei Gloria
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
I don't really see how I was contradicting myself, but then again, contradicting is something you are rather good at yourself, too.
Well, we all have to be good at something. Though I don't really see how I've contradicted myself.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:17:00 -
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Perhaps the fact that you claim to be loyal to the Emperor... yet go directly against his wishes as stated when he won the championship?
Though I am hard pressed to see how Konstantin has contradicted himself, every one of his posts have said the same thing stated a different way...
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Perhaps the fact that you claim to be loyal to the Emperor... yet go directly against his wishes as stated when he won the championship?
Though I am hard pressed to see how Konstantin has contradicted himself, every one of his posts have said the same thing stated a different way...
He has contradicted himself by saying on the one had that slavery is a means to bring people into the faith and then simultaneously say that it's the Minmatars destiny to be slaves... He does not say to be brought into the faith by slavery... but that slavery is the path they are chosen to follow. Bad word choice? Perhaps... but it's telling. Especially when I've heard similar comments from those (Ni-Kunni especially) who seem to enjoy both the view that slaves are subhumans who will never be able to be enlightened and that the institution is in place to enlighten them.
As to your first comment about my contradictions, I look at the fact that he was facing a quasi-insurrection from the despotic House of Sarum at the time... need I refer you to what happened at his inauguration? His actions before becoming Emperor as well as his progressive stance since then suggest that he's being held back by conservative forces... and even one of your own pilots have acknowledged that emancipating slaves would not be in His best interest if he wishes to stay alive...
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Tar Kovsky
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Posted - 2005.04.25 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tar Kovsky on 25/04/2005 16:53:55
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Though I am hard pressed to see how Konstantin has contradicted himself, every one of his posts have said the same thing stated a different way...
For most people, the word "destiny" implies an ultimate fate. When Konstantin says that "the destiny of your people is to be slaves" he may *mean* that "slavery is one step on the road to enlightenment for your people" -- but it's certainly not what he *said*.
Either way, it's pap of course.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.25 16:56:00 -
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I must agree with a Minmatar for once. The argument is moot, though. I have always sponsored slavery as a means to God. That is why I have been a sponsor of both the Ni-Kunni, Amattar and even the small proportion of free Eular that can be found in our glorious Empire.
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Dei Gloria
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.25 17:01:00 -
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Fair enough... if he mispoke or I misunderstood, then I retract my claims that he was contradicting himself.
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050405
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Posted - 2005.04.26 14:12:00 -
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In this time era Minmatar settle, in the next they strike.
The word slave has just begun to die.
Keep poolish thoose juwlery of yours.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.04.26 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: 050405
In this time era Minmatar settle, in the next they strike.
The word slave has just begun to die.
Keep poolish thoose juwlery of yours.
You know, Enlightenment includes the teaching of communication skills.
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Zorglub Kosmos
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Posted - 2005.04.26 14:58:00 -
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Bah, they were ripe to die, if they cannot agree to Amarr supremacy and deny to be slaves, they are worth nothing but a waste of space.
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.26 20:02:00 -
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Quote:
"He has contradicted himself by saying on the one had that slavery is a means to bring people into the faith and then simultaneously say that it's the Minmatars destiny to be slaves... He does not say to be brought into the faith by slavery... but that slavery is the path they are chosen to follow. Bad word choice? Perhaps... but it's telling. Especially when I've heard similar comments from those (Ni-Kunni especially) who seem to enjoy both the view that slaves are subhumans who will never be able to be enlightened and that the institution is in place to enlighten them."
God decides your destiny. Thus destiny, fate and faith are the same.
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Kodan Ajex
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Posted - 2005.04.26 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 26/04/2005 23:05:06
Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 26/04/2005 22:40:26
Man decides his destiny. god is an excuse for the evil he dose to others.
when you realise that you won't need god.
"The truest measure of a society is how it treats its elderly, its pets, and its prisoners."
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JGJones
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Posted - 2005.04.27 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
We are Minmatar, we are family...
Providing they don't get the "wrong" marks...those that does...what exactly happen to them? They're not very welcome are they?
We are Amarr, we embrace ALL Minmater to be our slaves on the path to enlightment, where we aim to take care of them so they would become full fledged members of the Glorious Amarr Empire!
Glory To Emperor And To God! Amarr Victor!
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.04.27 08:44:00 -
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Not every agrees with that particular tradition, particularly in these new times. There are many within the Ushra'Khan who bear the mark.
But, still, they choose not to forget their people, I cannot say where they find such strength.
We are coming for our people slaver. And you cannot stop us.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.27 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Not every agrees with that particular tradition, particularly in these new times. There are many within the Ushra'Khan who bear the mark.
Yeah, figures, many of you are degenerates and betrayers of your people already. Harboring those with the 'bad' Voluval marks is pretty much typical for such an association.
And you wonder why the Republic pays so little attention to you..
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.04.27 09:45:00 -
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Actually Minmitar are "better off" back home if you rate the life against that of the SPCS guidelines they get about 10x more outta life, quite simply you'd have to be a fool not to come to matar...besides everyone knows you brainwash your slaves with subliminal messageing anyway's hence the amount of money we spend sorting them out...
now being an ex-slaver i much prefer the matari system take ship repairs whereas before my personal slaves were whipped to get my ship ready and it took 8 hours, my now employees who are paid not onyl complete the work in 6 hours they say hey KJ fancy a drink sometime soon? oh and hows youw wife here shes pregnant...c ya later mate...etc etc its a much nicer enviroment to work in...
and thens theres the added satisfaction of not walking around seeing you miserable amarr buggers in your hoods all the time, or the inquisition constantly probeing your activites i mean talk about stress relief lol! i mean trying to ***** a joke to gauis got you the look of "talk to me again ill have you flogged in public square" anyhoo must dash got to go kill some of you guys...Ta Ta !
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.27 09:47:00 -
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You repair your ship, KahnJohn?
We sophisticated Amarrians use Armor Repairers. Cheaper, and nano-bots whine a whole lot less.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.04.27 09:57:00 -
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well i was referring to when you dont have an armour repairer available....i mean duh disco i thought you ahd some small amount of brainpower but then again all the blood has left your head from you bending it upwards and screaming all the time....touche!
(ooc - the icon for repairs in stations is a little welding man so dont even think about it disco!)
anyhoo enough chit chat and the constant blah de blah de blah heh so boring, i mean i can have better convo's with my mother though she does preach a lot about the whole come back to amarr god routine sheesh...mothers eh anyhoo going bakc to the original topic of conversation i hope more uprisings happen, so much for slaver security i mean surely he must be punished by the inquisition for letting HAC's get captured...
im with khal shira maybe we can talk sometime about "things" best nto to discuss here the Amarran scum PR would only use it against you....oh wait they already are..hehe
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:06:00 -
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dunno about you, but I always carry a repairer :|
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 27/04/2005 10:15:49
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JGJones
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
Actually Minmitar are "better off" back home if you rate the life against that of the SPCS guidelines they get about 10x more outta life, quite simply you'd have to be a fool not to come to matar...besides everyone knows you brainwash your slaves with subliminal messageing anyway's hence the amount of money we spend sorting them out...
now being an ex-slaver i much prefer the matari system take ship repairs whereas before my personal slaves were whipped to get my ship ready and it took 8 hours, my now employees who are paid not onyl complete the work in 6 hours they say hey KJ fancy a drink sometime soon? oh and hows youw wife here shes pregnant...c ya later mate...etc etc its a much nicer enviroment to work in...
and thens theres the added satisfaction of not walking around seeing you miserable amarr buggers in your hoods all the time, or the inquisition constantly probeing your activites i mean talk about stress relief lol! i mean trying to ***** a joke to gauis got you the look of "talk to me again ill have you flogged in public square" anyhoo must dash got to go kill some of you guys...Ta Ta !
You whip your slaves? And you wonder why they don't work very well?
Any good Amarr slaveowners know that slaves cost money and thus must be taken care of, the SPCS guidelines are just that....guidelines. Most slaveowners follow the SPCS and do more beyond it.
I do not whip my slaves, it only make them unhappy and they don't work as hard. No I take care of them and they are happy and thus they work very hard indeed and are willing to do so.
In return I look after them, feed the, bathe them, provide medicial care for the sick ones, and at all time keep families together, ensure that they are comfortable, safe. In doing this I show them the benefit the Amarr society have to offer them. This is all part of their path to enlightment and in future become full Amarrian citizens and become slaveowners themselves helping lesser races get on the path of enlightment.
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:56:00 -
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"use-to" WHIP! actually if we wnated to dig up old old stuf about SPCS stuff arch himself once told me he whipped his slaves...i mean seriously JG you want to debate over differences despite "whipping" the life of freedom still far outweighs what you have to offer and your propagandistic crapola, here have a merit badge for being number 1 good treater of slaves :D love that word crapola!! doesnt fly with the average joe, if slaves were so happy they wouldnt keep asking to be released or trying to escape,
and weve already delved into the corruption at prosperity station a well known supported SPCS and CVA station which amarula escaped from where she told us and indeed showed us evidence of men being beaten to death...like most galatic PR spinners and politicians you have no idea of what happens outside of your doors...just another example of Top Amarrans being disconnected from us lower Amarrans...heh it is a funny thing no even i am dsconnected now from the dregs of amarran society remeber i was once like you...:D admit the truth my friend it shall set you free and you may yet wlak upon the true path of enlightenment which A) please's god as i vanquish the evil do'ers (he showed me in a vision) and B) fights for justice and good!
heh disco im sure youve forgotten a repper now and again when setting up a new gank setup ...anyhoo enough debateing
we can go on forever and you guys seriously need some hugs! C u soon Guys!!
KJ
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:59:00 -
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JGJones;
Sorry, pal, most slaves don't get treated very well. 'S not profitable to do so. Perhaps owners with one or two get to have the luxury of treating them as something other then a commodity, those with stocks of over a thousand often need to cut back on things in order to make em profitable. 'S only logical, after all they're property, nothing else.
KJ; I don't fly gank-setups :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2005.04.27 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: OdCuK Hayzo on 27/04/2005 11:22:11
They are acctually people, nobody "owns" them; its simply ammarian ignorance showing. We are all human, the only difference between an ammarian and a minmatar is that one of them belives in lies, arrogance, and a fallen empire of days long past.
The ammarians are on their knees; yet they are all so blinded by their own stupidity, false emperor and false religion, that they are unable to see as such.
And the real irony of it all, is that Ammarians belive they are the only enlightened people of this galaxy.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.27 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 27/04/2005 11:27:47
Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
Edited by: OdCuK Hayzo on 27/04/2005 11:22:11
They are acctually people, nobody "owns" them; its simply ammarian ignorance showing. We are all human, the only difference between an ammarian and a minmatar is that one of them belives in lies, arrogance, and a fallen empire of days long past.
Hahaha. I can buy and sell slaves, can get breeding certificates, just like I could with a prize-winning furrier, and you're telling slaves aren't owned?
Hahaha.
Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
The ammarians are on their knees; yet they are all so blinded by their own stupidity, false emperor and false religion, that they are unable to see as such.
Yeh, I mean, something that's endured for thousands of years is bound to crumble any day soon!!!@!$
Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
And the real irony of it all, is that Ammarians belive they are the only enlightened people of this galaxy.
Well, that is ironic, I grant you that. Clearly we're not.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: OdCuK Hayzo on 27/04/2005 12:28:33
you do not "own" them. You have created the illusion that you do. they are two different things; in that one is real.
Without theese slaves, your rather pathetic scociety would fall deeper than it already has. You depend upon them; however, you will not admit it. you say you "own" them, but if anything, they own you.
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Yeh, I mean, something that's endured for thousands of years is bound to crumble any day soon!!!@!$
i didn't say it will. i said it has. you cannot control your slaves, the other empires are turning on you; and you are all simply afraid.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:30:00 -
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Yeh, you're right. Clearly Deathwing's 50.000 slaves own him when he's beating them into submission.
Really..
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
i didn't say it will. i said it has. you cannot control your slaves, the other empires are turning on you; and you are all simply afraid.
Sry, I'm usually pretty good in ferrying out mayhem. The Amarr control their slaves pretty well, actually.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:39:00 -
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yet they can still rebel, steal ships, start uprisings, cripple your empire and build flying junkyards?
wow, the control.
true control, would be if you didnt need poisons and what have you to keep your slaves in line. if you had true control, you wouldnt need for them to be slaves.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
yet they can still rebel, steal ships, start uprisings, cripple your empire and build flying junkyards?
Not without help  . Solo, slaves are defenseless 
Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
wow, the control.
true control, would be if you didnt need poisons and what have you to keep your slaves in line. if you had true control, you wouldnt need for them to be slaves.
Eh. Yeah. YOU KNOW, THESE MIND CONTROL THINGS THEY DONT REALLY CONTROL MAN 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:47:00 -
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Quote:
Eh. Yeah. YOU KNOW, THESE MIND CONTROL THINGS THEY DONT REALLY CONTROL MAN
open your eyes.
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Not without help . Solo, slaves are defenseless
so are solo ammarians. more so without theese defenseless slaves.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
open your eyes.
Sorry, they don't work and have been replaced by mechanical substitutes.
Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
so are solo ammarians. more so without theese defenseless slaves.
How wonderful that we DO have these slaves then 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:12:00 -
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Sorry, they don't work and have been replaced by mechanical substitutes.
once again blinded to your defunct, decaying empire.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: OdCuK Hayzo
once again blinded to your defunct, decaying empire.
It's not my empire, darling 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:18:00 -
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only way to settel this argument between you honourably is a duel 
Shall we say a low sec system, ill referee if you like
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
only way to settel this argument between you honourably is a duel
Shall we say a low sec system, ill referee if you like
Duel = alone in a system, in a gang, in midflight. No need for referee's the guy losing will -know- he lost
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:23:00 -
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yeh but i want to vid record it :D
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
yeh but i want to vid record it :D
I don't want to be recorded dying 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 14:47:00 -
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im sure you dont.
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Posted - 2005.04.28 23:39:00 -
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*sighes out lightly and blinks his eyes*
Again some childish talk about this and that of slaves. They are a commodity and as presented in many opinions over the tides of time, they are an expensive commodity. Slaves are hardly dirt cheap, good slaves are extremely expensive to have. Owning slaves come usually with the responsibility to feed, clothe and take in otherwords care of these lowest social class in the Holy Amarrian Empire.
If you seek some equal treatment or strate priviledges for them, I will only laugh until my stomach gets sick. Look at the lowest caste or... class in heathen Kingdom's and consider this. In our society slaves are the poorest and yet they do live in luxury of being taken care of. They are fed and supported by they owners, in return of course of them doing a good job and fulfilling a function given to them by they master. Would it be more just or appropriate to ask them to sell themselfs so they can buy drugs, or let them rot in the dead cities like poor in the Gallentean Union?
So enough with this nonsense, as we all know the slaves live better life than the lowest caste in any of the heathen Kingdoms.
Now, if you wish to cry me a river about something. Please do pray to God and sacrifice money in the amarrian churches so my longterm progress of attempting to crossbreed slaverhounds and minimatar slaves would eventually work. We certainly could use a slave that is a furry one and has really not much intelligence, but yet physically is fit as a fiddle. Afterall, I would save alot of money on costs of clothing the slaves... with such slaves, they would be so suprerior to minimatar breed I would definately dispose my slaves and fully focus on breeding and training furry slaves.
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Posted - 2005.04.29 19:41:00 -
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You may feed them, but you also poision them, strip them of their individuality and leave them without freedom.
that is not being taken care of.
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