It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.

Would that be the 500 million isk up front kind of easy?

Would that be the 500 million isk up front kind of easy?

No, it's the "send your application in and fill out a questionnaire and give us your API key" kind of easy.

Not to mention the "Be on our forums for three months and participate and be screened by six kinds of anal probe" easy

Joining a 0.0 corporation is really easy.

0.0 corporations are just like high sec corporations: Some have ridiculous entry requirements, others have moderate requirements, and some have no requirements at all.

Corporations are corporations regardless of where in space they are located. If you want to join one, meet the people in the corporation, talk to them, get a feel for them, see if your playstyles and times match up and... join or not.

There isn't anything special about 0.0 corporations in comparison to any other corporation.

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

I don't recall any kinds of anal probe

Different corporations in the CFC have differing recruitment policies as well. I would absolutely not rule us out. vOv

You should probably ask yourself what you want in a 0.0 corp and then work from there.



This guy sums it up pretty well.

So what are the entry erequiements to join

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Triple A

It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.

EXTRA QUESTION (and one that needs a credible answer)

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

If you are 5.0 sec status with no pvp history and no significant corp activity in the past then what can you actually offer to a PVP corp?

It;s like going into a job interview with no CV and no proof that you are in any way competent. Join some random fleets, join in on roams as a guest, join RvB, Eve Uni, maybe even ask Snigg; and heaven forbid you try some solo PvP or show any initiative.

Don't expect to just get in by talking. Prove you deserve to be there, or join someone incompetent like Intrepid Crossing who will accept anyone.

So what are the entry erequiements to join

The Goons (apart from the 500 million Isk route)

Razor Alliance

Triple A

Rooks and Kings

Honey Badgers

The Veyr

Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.

So apart from the Goons who have their own incestious relationship with this game how easily would it be to join a major and successful powerblock or elite small/medium gang in nullsec.

And how long should i bother before i either give up or stick to Russian space or highsec.

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

No offence here, but the most offensive thing to go through in a recruitment process is the use of - IRC + Mumble + Teamspeak/Ventrilo + Full API (not the limited one) + a reference.

Not to mention the "Be on our forums for three months and participate and be screened by six kinds of anal probe" easy

A lot of these entities that you want to join are more social group than EVE space guild. You might want to try joining a social group that plays EVE instead of an ~elite~ EVE space guild. EVE is good because of the people you surround yourself with and the content they create, not because the game is intrinsically good. If you join a social group you'll have a decent group of people to hang out with, but if you join an ~elite~ EVE pvp space guild you'll have a wonderful all important green killboard to hang out with.

Cool don't join us then, or any really successful PvP Null Sec bloc, because:

1. Comms is essential, nuff said.
2. Full API is often essential to weed out spies, see above. You expect trust with no trust given in return. How selfish.
3. References are sometimes required to make sure you've spoken to someone in the corp for more than 5 minutes
4. IRC/Jabber is amazing. Not only does it let you SOCIALISE with you new SOCIAL GROUP without even logging in, it means that something super cool could be happening and you'd miss out. Say you're watching you favourite anime series for the 8th time (you nerd) and suddenly you get told an enemy titan is tackled and a massive fight is taking place. Do you want to be involved in that fight? If the answer is "no" then don't come to Null Sec anyway.

This man speaks the truth. I've played some terrible games that I never would've played if it were not for the community.

I've not given these to anyone? I also say: Comms - yes, many unaccountable comms - no. The trust requested is 4 involuntary comms channels on '4 unmonitored programs' under the premise it's cool to be on them, bear in mind that Anti-Virus programs require a list of definitions for those programs to make sure they don't inject code (Allow for safe being pointless and Allow for all being the most commonly clicked button), most are slapped together despite already legitimate programs doing exactly the same thing already being around, like large TS servers, with chat channels and pop-up sounds.

I, went through that sketch where I explained I was in Hi-sec for a bit?
I've been in null-sec before and although I find it "offensive to ask for that much information" I've used that information before, and asked for it before, I stated as much in another thread where you responded directly?

I've still got all the bookmarks to jumpbridges from Branch pre-burn to -A- last month.........

I've not given these to anyone? I also say: Comms - yes, many unaccountable comms - no. The trust requested is 4 involuntary comms channels on '4 unmonitored programs' under the premise it's cool to be on them, bear in mind that Anti-Virus programs require a list of definitions for those programs to make sure they don't inject code (Allow for safe being pointless and Allow for all being the most commonly clicked button), most are slapped together despite already legitimate programs doing exactly the same thing already being around, like large TS servers, with chat channels and pop-up sounds.

That sounds like one big excuse for not using comms probably stemming from "oh god its another program that I don't want to have to run." Any half-decent free antivirus will protect you from those things you list. Comms are essential, its the social group that makes EVE fun and you can't be a part of a social group without communication.

I, went through that sketch where I explained I was in Hi-sec for a bit?
I've been in null-sec before and although I find it "offensive to ask for that much information" I've used that information before, and asked for it before, I stated as much in another thread where you responded directly?

I've still got all the bookmarks to jumpbridges from Branch pre-burn to -A- last month.........

I've not given these to anyone? I also say: Comms - yes, many unaccountable comms - no. The trust requested is 4 involuntary comms channels on '4 unmonitored programs' under the premise it's cool to be on them, bear in mind that Anti-Virus programs require a list of definitions for those programs to make sure they don't inject code (Allow for safe being pointless and Allow for all being the most commonly clicked button), most are slapped together despite already legitimate programs doing exactly the same thing already being around, like large TS servers, with chat channels and pop-up sounds.

Would you tell me which one your members think is the best anti-virus program?

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

Use a clean alt to join alliances maybe?

So apart from the Goons who have their own incestious relationship with this game how easily would it be to join a major and successful powerblock or elite small/medium gang in nullsec.


EXTRA QUESTION (and one that needs a credible answer)

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.

So the question is, how hard is it to join a nullsec alliance (i wont name the major ones as trolling will commence)


I joined the corp recruitment channel and every nullsec group i looked at were getting smashed in every war they had.

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well.

Were you trying to join -A- or something?

Then don't. If you get challenged, tell them why not. And if they don't like it, screw 'em. However methinks you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. That attitude will not help you get recruited. In nullsec you are just meat for the grinder, boy. No one cares about your little market tricks - in fact your alliance will appreciate you NOT using them on fellow alliance members. The "enemy" is THAT way ---> No, all we care about is if you can bring the right ship and fitting to the fight, with enough skill to fly it well, and if you can do exactly as you are told.

-A- is the anal probe.

First you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest...with a herring. Then you shall fetch us a shrubbery. Then you must bring us...another shrubbery. When you have found the shrubbery, place the shrubbery here, beside the first shrubbery ... only slightly higher, so you get a two-level effect with a path through the middle.

If you are 5.0 sec status with no pvp history and no significant corp activity in the past then what can you actually offer to a PVP corp?

It;s like going into a job interview with no CV and no proof that you are in any way competent. Join some random fleets, join in on roams as a guest, join RvB, Eve Uni, maybe even ask Snigg; and heaven forbid you try some solo PvP or show any initiative.

Don't expect to just get in by talking. Prove you deserve to be there, or join someone incompetent like Intrepid Crossing who will accept anyone.

I'd only really join a corp that has one requirement - Comms, any other comms or combination of comms is a liability.

There's a constant cry to get people out in null sec but they have to forcibly like to PvP and have records of it.
At the same time, there's a constant cry to nerf those who just don't like to (spaceships) PvP and thus are denied any access to get to 0.0.

This is quite an hypocrisy that it's imposed on a sizable amount of the playerbase.

That's the kind of stuff that will always keep a substantial amount of people well out of 0.0 corps.

There's a constant cry to get people out in null sec but they have to forcibly like to PvP and have records of it.
At the same time, there's a constant cry to nerf those who just don't like to (spaceships) PvP and thus are denied any access to get to 0.0.

This is quite an hypocrisy that it's imposed on a sizable amount of the playerbase.

Why would you even want to move to conquerable space if you have no interest in fighting?

Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.

So the question is, how hard is it to join a nullsec alliance [...]

The conclusion is that the big nullsec alliances do not recruit through normal channels.


So i tried again with a more credible PvP corp who before i talked about my skills had kicked me for lack of killboard.

But i tend to live solo in Russian space, Why.....BECAUSE ITS FULL OF RUSSIANS. The area is the ultimate finishing school for anyone who lives in nullsec/lowsec.

So apart from the Goons who have their own incestious relationship with this game how easily would it be to join a major and successful powerblock or elite small/medium gang in nullsec.

And how long should i bother before i either give up or stick to Russian space or highsec.
[...]

Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.

So the question is, how hard is it to join a nullsec alliance (i wont name the major ones as trolling will commence)

Why would you even want to move to conquerable space if you have no interest in fighting?

The whole point is that people do want to PvP but cannot get in without a lot of stipulations.

But you don't want to join a null alliance stop trolling.

That's not true.

If large alliances looked at all mails, and judged based on participation I would agree. They don't do that. They look at wins though. Lets be realistic, I could show you 500 kill mails of me trying to break an -A- line alone and getting my ass handed to me every time and sure, I would be a great joke on the forums but nobody would see me and say, wow that's a determined pilot. They will only see a 'bad at EVE' player.

I showed up in Uedama to 'combat the piracy'.
I failed, I was bugshit on a bumper but I tried. It won't get added to my EVE resume though.

No, it's the "send your application in and fill out a questionnaire and give us your API key" kind of easy.

Have you asked this question to the pipeline technicians who are sent to some often-in-war middle eastern country?
Their reply could be enlightening.

Not to mention the "Be on our forums for three months and participate and be screened by six kinds of anal probe" easy

It's extremely easy. Simply post a thread in the recruitment forums and watch the offers come in. I did this myself, and even though I'm a 2 million skillpoint noob. I must of had about 20 invites.

GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.

GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.

The whole point is that people do want to PvP but cannot get in without a lot of stipulations.

Rooks and Kings

It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.

GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.

yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...

yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...

Goons are the most trustworthy group in all of EVE. That you couldn't take the time to do the necessary research to avoid the outcomes documented above is simply proof that you are do not have what it takes to join (which is pretty sad considering the bar isn't that high to begin with).

This may shock you, but they apply for those jobs, they're not "sent". They're also compensated far, far better for their dangerous work than they would be at home, which doesn't line up with Eve at all.

Goons are the most trustworthy group in all of EVE. That you couldn't take the time to do the necessary research to avoid the outcomes documented above is simply proof that you are do not have what it takes to join (which is pretty sad considering the bar isn't that high to begin with).

The real answer to the OP depends on how many times you are willing to apply with the reason "cyno alt" to random corps.

In my mind there are four (very rough) tiers of 0.0 corporations separated by their approach towards recruitment:

(1) corporations that recruit anyone and acquire recruits by spamming unsolicited evemails/convos: bottom of the barrel (typically renters and/or IRC)

(2) corporations that recruit pretty much anyone and advertise in the Recruitment channel/eve-o subforum: 2nd tier alliances (e.g. Tribal Band, Li3, Squee, FA, SMA, ...), 3rd tier corporations in 1st tier alliances (ENL-I comes to mind)

(3) corporations that do open recruitment but don't advertise: 2nd tier corporations in 1st tier alliances (e.g. Eternity, ...)

(4) corporations that recruit by vouch only: 1st tier corporations in 1st tier alliances (e.g. dreddit for non-redditors, ...)

(yes, I know that you are a special snowflake and that your corporation does not fit into this scheme at all;
yes, I know that my examples are mostly drawn from HBC and CFC;
yes, I know that all test members are equal and that dreddit is merely more equal than the others;
yes, I know that people will find a dozen reasons to dismiss this post as irrelevant or biased.)

Anyways, my experience is that (1) is best avoided altogether and that getting into (2) is trivial, regardless of prior experience.
Getting into (3) requires some work but is doable for a complete stranger with an active killboard and no obvious red flags.
Joining (4) requires you to have friends in the corporation you apply to or to be someone who is well-known outside his current alliance (prolific kugu poster, FC, songwriter, ...).

As long as you set your eyes on (2) [(3) if you can demonstrate prior pvp experience] you should have no problem finding a corporation within one of the large power-blocs that will take you.

Alt or account? Smart corps will ask for an account wide API.

Heh, that's funny. I remember someone telling me about trying that.

Different corporations in the CFC have differing recruitment policies as well. I would absolutely not rule us out. vOv

You should probably ask yourself what you want in a 0.0 corp and then work from there.



This guy sums it up pretty well.

(1) corporations that recruit anyone and acquire recruits by spamming unsolicited evemails/convos: bottom of the barrel (typically renters and/or IRC)

(2) corporations that recruit pretty much anyone and advertise in the Recruitment channel/eve-o subforum: 2nd tier alliances (e.g. Tribal Band, Li3, Squee, FA, SMA, ...), 3rd tier corporations in 1st tier alliances (ENL-I comes to mind)

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.

Anyone can join the blob. Smaller scale its easiest if your references come from killing or being killed by (not terribly) their members. Or just be logged in 23/7 and pvping like its your job, or is your job.