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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:03:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Great way to make a ton of isk selling characters Great way to make character sales yield zero ISK.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:31:00 -
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David Campbell wrote:If that feature was available for a fee a bit lower than the cost of an other account, I don't see how this would fall under the "pay 2 win" category. Because you get access to more stuff and more abilities than you normally get by paying for it.
What the OP wants already exists: it's called getting a second account (and maybe getting a character transfer at the end).
Relgast wrote:I came up with the $4.99 based on:
$15/mo get your 1 skill queue and 3 char slots You miscalculated. For $15, you get one month of server access and one month (and three days) of skill training. If you want another month of skill training on top of that, but no additional server access, $13 would probably be a better price. Sure, in terms of actual costs, the server access probably costs CCP more, but since it's the training time you want to buy, it'll be the one that drives the price up.
At that point, you might as well go for the full $15 to get double access, and then everyone's happy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:44:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Right this minute I could go buy 60 PLEX, convert it into 30 Billion ISK and buy a character with 100 million SP. How is that not pay-to-win? Because you're not creating more than already exists or bypassing any mechanics in doing so.
Quote:But how is someone doing it on alt account really different from CCP simply creating one out of thin air? Because doing it the hard way means following a swath of balancing mechanics that keep the economy of characters and abilities in check and keeps them all from being worthless.
By your logic, spending a second to type /add_ISK 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 and is no different than spending a decade hunting rats to spawn all that ISK. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:08:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Relgast wrote: Would this be a decent revenue stream for CCP? Absolutely. I'm surprised they haven't already done something like this, to be honest. Probably because they'd lose money on it and because it would rather go against their GÇ£no P2WGÇ¥ policy.
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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:09:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:How does this help you "win" exactly? It lets you bypass the normal game mechanics that put constraints on what you can do with your account and your characters.
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:12:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:How if this pay to win and paying for other accounts not? Because those extra accounts work the same way all other accounts do GÇö this money-boosted account does not.
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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:14:00 -
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David Campbell wrote:Once again, so does being allowed to use an infinite number of alts accounts. No, it doesn't. They follow the same mechanics and constraints that this idea is intended to remove.
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:16:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:I had this idea of a forum section where you can post ideas. What do you think about it? Maybe if you could post about features as well, but nahGǪ it'll never catch on. 
Mr Epeen wrote:My answer to that is in the stuff you chose not to include in your quote, of course. Since you didn't address the issue of them making any less money or the issue of bypassing mechanics, no, of course you didn't.
What I choose not to quote was a bunch of misinformation and misunderstandings about how PLEX work, because there was no need to perpetuate that nonsense. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:20:00 -
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David Campbell wrote:The fact that you would pay extra, wouldn't make your character better in any way. GǪbut it would make your account better compared other accounts simply because you paid money for it, hence P2W.
If you want to train two characters as once, use the mechanics for it: get a second account. If you want to have two high-SP characters on one account, use the mechanics for it: transfer a character from one account to the other. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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