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Kirjava
E X C E P T I O N
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Posted - 2012.11.25 03:44:00 -
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Well we get stuff like this, where an SAS Sniper gets court martialied and locked up on grounds of possession of a pistol. Given to him by Iraqi special forces after he finished his tour their, training said Iraqi special forces. And after suffering brain damage after the event, and forgetting he had a daughter.
Methinks maybe gun control and terror of them has gone a spot too far, it is ultimately just a tool that makes it a spot easier to kill/wound someone, and a chap in the SAS hardly needs a gun to kill, nor too squeemish to use his bare hands.
I know we've got some military chaps on these forums, is this kind of stuff seemingly like an overreaction by the court martial? Legaly speaking it is illegal to possess private arms in this manner in the UK so I suppose that they are obeying the law with extreme prejudice?
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.25 04:27:00 -
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Not military, but i plays lotsa vidya games.
Questionable UK gun laws aside, my only concern is his brain damage. Generally i think military people know how to handle a weapon better than most and with some luck would be more disciplined about when to use one, but in his case reality could be tenuous. If him forgetting his daughter is the only thing that's happened so far as a result of his injuries, then he should still be given the benefit of the doubt.
On related note, this kind of reminds me of this. So it might not be too different in the US soon enough. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2012.11.25 04:40:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Not military, but i plays lotsa vidya games. Questionable UK gun laws aside, my only concern is his brain damage. Generally i think military people know how to handle a weapon better than most and with some luck would be more disciplined about when to use one, but in his case reality could be tenuous. If him forgetting his daughter is the only thing that's happened so far as a result of his injuries, then he should still be given the benefit of the doubt. On related note, this kind of reminds me of this. So it might not be too different in the US soon enough.
He's not "military people," he's an SAS operative. Less than 1/10th of 1% of "military people" have the mental toughness to become one.
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.25 04:51:00 -
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Do i detect some elitism? I suppose it's warranted. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Kirjava
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Posted - 2012.11.25 05:24:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Though not as great as the US Marines, they're pretty close
Oh you
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soldieroffortune 258
No-Mercy Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.11.25 06:40:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Not military, but i plays lotsa vidya games. Questionable UK gun laws aside, my only concern is his brain damage. Generally i think military people know how to handle a weapon better than most and with some luck would be more disciplined about when to use one, but in his case reality could be tenuous. If him forgetting his daughter is the only thing that's happened so far as a result of his injuries, then he should still be given the benefit of the doubt. On related note, this kind of reminds me of this. So it might not be too different in the US soon enough. He's not "military people," he's an SAS operative. Less than 1/10th of 1% of "military people" have the mental toughness to become one. Though not as great as the US Marines, they're pretty close
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Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.25 06:49:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:some military chaps on these forums Military? This kind of crap shouldn't happen to anyone. Iraqis have more freedoms than you tbh. They can pry my guns from my cold dead hands
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2012.11.25 11:49:00 -
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You are slaves.
Slaves are not allowed to have guns.
In countries where we have guns, people are also slaves, but it costs a lot to make them think they are not slaves.
Take Egypt for example. Their elected leader just declared himself dictator. Big mistake. Now the people know they are under a despot. He will probably never even manage to do half the things any American president did, mainly for lack of funding and the minions being too smart to forgo their own rackets and corruption (American minions working for the state are well payed to be very very stupid). Yet we think we have freedom here. I've been to these third world armpits where there are despots who think they rule over everything while everybody does whatever they want, and come home to everything thinking they are free while complying with the decrees of despots who call themselves by other names.
The end results are no different. In the former, you will pay off the local corrupt cops to get away with making a living. In the latter, you will pay high taxes and operating licenses existing from laws passed by corrupt politicians, voted in by corrupt people who think they are free.
As long as all you ever do is eat, sleep, work, and play games, you will never know how bad it is. Once you try to do more than that with your life, your first dealings with tax laws will let you notice that shackle on your ankle.
The state, meanwhile, concentrates on guns. Those are just tools. A lot of bad people will be going out face down. |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.11.25 11:52:00 -
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We are sorry that people in other countries require guns to make themselves safe. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.11.25 12:42:00 -
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Surely he would have known what the laws are, and even then, whomever gave him the gun would have known in the UK guns are a no no.
Easiest thing to have done would have been to nullify the gun, making it unable to fire live ammunition. Once completed, the solider would be given the gun and allowed to keep it as the momento it was intended for.
Neut it and give it back to him ffs.
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Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.25 13:05:00 -
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Didn't this former SAS member get 18 months of Jail time? There was a different show on in the last couple of weeks where a pedo got 6 weeks.
Jus sayin.
As for Lord-A-Mursi in Egypt there really isn't much that could have been done, they overthrew Hosni Mubarak through protests, the only logical choice would be to implement a strategy whereby "Number 1" cannot be overrun by "2 and below" - A dictatorship.
Let's not forget the big picture - Mursi was increased in import by his brokerage of Isreali-Palestinian peace.
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.11.25 14:39:00 -
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Sorry guys, but rules are rules.
I have pretty strong views on gun control myself, but the discussion of it is far too political and does not belong on the EVE Online forums.
Locking this as per Rule #3, we don't allow political discussion on these forums.
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