This is not just oddly intentional, it is very intentional. If we didn't want to penalise T3 death, we simply wouldn't have the skillpoint-loss mechanic in the first place

No more ejecting and scooping your T3 with your Orca alt on high sec gate while pirating in low sec nerds. BUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*clears throat*

I mean, excellent change.

We heard yesterday that it will no longer be possible to eject from a T3 ship for saving skills after Retribution.

Is it confirmed ?

I think I know the answer, but can anyone answer this please?

If all parties have stopped firing and the victim is being help by a warp scram, can the victim still eject after 60 seconds? I'm thinking no, but would like clarification please.

This in in regards to all ship types, not solely related to T3.

The weapons timer (which is what prevents ejection) is only affected by actions taken by the target and is independent of actions taken against them - it works in the same way as the current aggression timer does with respect to docking or using gates. In the case you described, the victim would be free to eject 60 seconds after they stopped aggressing despite being scrambled.

Now less shinies will explode because even fewer people will be willing to PVP in T3 ships

FTFY

It is time CCP removes the skill point loss mechanic completely in conjunction with insurance.

It is time CCP removes the skill point loss mechanic completely in conjunction with insurance.

I agree. All these negative things, which bring absolutely no improvement to pvp should be eliminated. This is one of them.

I also think the consequence of this will be: Players will simply be more risk-avers in flying shiny ships.

Yes let's remove the only drawback of flying T3s which tank better than their HAC/field command counterparts, are often faster than their HAC/field command counterparts and generally outdamage their HAC/field command counterparts while requiring less skill training and only an insignificant sum of ISK more than their HAC/field command counterparts.

Honestly losing skill points at all is hardly hard core as some like to proclaim.

Actually I beg to differ. Based on how this game works SP is the ONLY thing you can't just get back easily. Losing a ship, grind some isk. Don't have time, buy a GTC. Lose SP, the only option is to wait.


Now figuring that the average time, depending on remaps, to retrain that sub to 5 is about 5 days, it adds up.

I lose 5 shiny ships, I may be out a ton of isk. I lose 3 T3 ships, Im out a ton of isk and almost a month of training time. How many other skills would you have preferred to train in that month?

So buy a dedicated T3 char on bazaar. If it wasn't for Bazaar you'd have a point, but as that forum exists, SP and gametime can be easily translated into ISK terms like everything else.

What does it help in PVP, if the t3 pilot losses skill points? T3 are not OP. It is natural, that most of them are a little better than t1 or t2 class.

Btw less shiny ships flying around = less shiny ships to kill = less interesting game. You got that? If players choose to fly less shiny ships, that makes the game for everybody less interesting.

My main concern is when devs say that T3's need to be put down like a rabid dog. I mean how many people would fly a Proteus if it had SP loss and the tank of a deimos?

Yes let's remove the only drawback of flying T3s which tank better than their HAC/field command counterparts, are often faster than their HAC/field command counterparts and generally outdamage their HAC/field command counterparts while requiring less skill training and only an insignificant sum of ISK more than their HAC/field command counterparts.