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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:21:00 -
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Why shouldn't people be allowed to play EVE without having to deal with some no-life d-bags ******* with them who are too cowardly to "pvp" in low or null?
EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. There is no good reason that douchebag activity can't be restricted to low and null.
I know a lot of people are afraid to lose their skilless/riskless"pvp" that hardly amounts to more than shooting fish in a barrel and are throwing up their hands about crimewatch, but this is exactly what this game needs. Less abusable mechanics and less cowards able to mess with others while under the protection of concord.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to play EVE without the cowardly douche bags. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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baltec1
Bat Country
2949
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:27:00 -
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What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
660
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:27:00 -
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This is just the kind of post that I feel is being posted over and over and over. Not by carebears, but by the anti - crowd.
Stop it.
Post on your main.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? Stop feeding the troll.
Unless your part of it.
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
baltec1
Bat Country
2949
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:32:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:This is just the kind of post that I feel is being posted over and over and over. Not by carebears, but by the anti - crowd. Stop it. Post on your main. You should be ashamed of yourself. baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? Stop feeding the troll. Unless your part of it. Not beating down things like this OP is how we got the broken barges. We cannot allow these comments to go unchallanged. |
Kobal81
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:35:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Why shouldn't people be allowed to play EVE without having to deal with some no-life d-bags ******* with them who are too cowardly to "pvp" in low or null?
EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. There is no good reason that douchebag activity can't be restricted to low and null.
I know a lot of people are afraid to lose their skilless/riskless"pvp" that hardly amounts to more than shooting fish in a barrel and are throwing up their hands about crimewatch, but this is exactly what this game needs. Less abusable mechanics and less cowards able to mess with others while under the protection of concord.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to play EVE without the cowardly douche bags.
Sorry was that your Badger II that weet booom........ "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit" |
Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:36:00 -
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Rawr Rawr Grumble, Nerf this... Moan Moan, Nerf That.... Welcome to World of Eve All You're Likes Belong to Me. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
63
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:38:00 -
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Quote:Why shouldn't people be allowed to play EVE without having to deal with some no-life d-bags ******* with them who are too cowardly to "pvp" in low or null?
Why do we live on this planet together, evil and good people piled up like sardines in a can, can't we just like migrate or something? Something like....I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Inside mining barge, true story |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:38:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:This is just the kind of post that I feel is being posted over and over and over. Not by carebears, but by the anti - crowd.
Stop it.
Post on your main.
Friggin' ironic that YOU'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING in your post.
F'ing hypocrite...
And who gives a flying crap whether it's a "main" by your definition or not? Maybe that *IS* his "main" according to your lame definition?
You should really just stop posting, Asuri. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
529
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:38:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. There is no good reason that douchebag activity can't be restricted to low and null.
Do you understand the hypocrisy of making a statement like that when you're basically saying you want gankers, bumpers, etc to not be allowed to do what they do in high sec?
Hello Kitty Online is that way, bro ---->
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10447
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:40:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. So why do you want to restrict them?
Oh, and you got a critical detail wrong: EVE is a multiplayer sandbox game. This doesn't mean you can do everything you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want, including things that you don't want them to do (to you). So by that fact alone, there is a perfectly good reason why highsec can't mean perfect safety: because then it would no longer be a sandbox (or at most a much reduced one).
GǪand then, of course, there are all the usual things that prove you wrong, such as the PvP-centric nature of the game and its interdependence between war and industry through a player-run market GÇö a fundamental design that would break if there was complete safety. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content?
not surprised that its more nonsense from baltec1
There would be no removal of content. It would just mean that if you want to screw with other people you will have to do it in low or null. In other words, you will have to grow a pair. Whats wrong with that? Nothing of course.
Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others?
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
441
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:This is just the kind of post that I feel is being posted over and over and over. Not by carebears, but by the anti - crowd. Stop it. Post on your main. You should be ashamed of yourself. baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? Stop feeding the troll. Unless your part of it. Not beating down things like this OP is how we got the broken barges. We cannot allow these comments to go unchallanged.
Amen
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
Beckie DeLey
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:44:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote: Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others?
Because it's a sandbox game. Duh.
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE is a multiplayer sandbox game. This doesn't mean you can do everything you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want.
if everyone is supposed to be able to do what they want, then I should be able to spend my entire EVE existence in high sec without having to worry about some no-life d-bags screwing with me because they can.
tippa logic is one-sided and fail as usual. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:45:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Nerf Burger wrote: Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others?
Because it's a sandbox game. Duh. Go play Minecraft on Peaceful or something.
sandbox does not mean people should be allowed to screw with you all the time.
try again.
so much fail defense of a chaotic high-sec. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
441
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:46:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. There is no good reason that douchebag activity can't be restricted to low and null. Do you understand the hypocrisy of making a statement like that when you're basically saying you want gankers, bumpers, etc to not be allowed to do what they do in high sec? Hello Kitty Online is that way, bro ---->
No, he probably doesn't understand, and can't. Short-sightedness is more common than common sense. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
530
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:47:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? not surprised that its more nonsense from baltec1 There would be no removal of content. It would just mean that if you want to screw with other people you will have to do it in low or null. In other words, you will have to grow a pair. Whats wrong with that? Nothing of course. Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others?
Except it absolutely is the removal of content. It means certain playstyles and activities in highsec no longer exist. They've been removed.
Why shouldn't there be a part of the game that is entirely safe? Because it would literally destroy the game. Learn how the economy in eve works, plz.
And again, sandbox = everyone can do what they want, including annoy you. You're playing the wrong game, mate. |
Renan Ruivo
Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda
909
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:47:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Tippia wrote:EVE is a multiplayer sandbox game. This doesn't mean you can do everything you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want. if everyone is supposed to be able to do what they want, then I should be able to spend my entire EVE existence in high sec without having to worry about some no-life d-bags screwing with me because they can. There are other sections of space where screwing with people is allowed. tippa logic is fail as usual.
Posting to confirm you just bought a fight with Tippia. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10448
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:51:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:There would be no removal of content. How is an arbitrary restriction on what you can do not a removal of content in the sandbox?
Quote:Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others? Because that would go against the sandbox idea and would break the game.
Quote:if everyone is supposed to be able to do what they want, then I should be able to spend my entire EVE existence in high sec without having to worry about some no-life d-bags screwing with me because they can. No, that's exactly what it means if they're able to do what they want. If you don't want them to do that, you can choose to keep them from doing it because the sandbox fully allows that. What you can't do is remove it as a gameplay option.
Or, to use the old Malcanisism: GÇ£sandboxGÇ¥ does not mean you can excel at everything you want to attempt GÇö it means you can attempt everything you want to excel at. I.e. if you want to try to play without people screwing with you, you can do that just fine. There's just no guarantee (beyond your own ingenuity and perseverance) to guarantee that you will succeed. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:51:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:baltec1 wrote:What exactly is sandboxy about removing a vast amount of content? not surprised that its more nonsense from baltec1 There would be no removal of content. It would just mean that if you want to screw with other people you will have to do it in low or null. In other words, you will have to grow a pair. Whats wrong with that? Nothing of course. Why shouldn't there be a part of the game where you aren't allowed to victimize others? Except it absolutely is the removal of content. It means certain playstyles and activities in highsec no longer exist. They've been removed.
no, it just means if you want to **** with people you would have to do it in low or null and without the protection of concord. Cry more cowards.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5608
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:51:00 -
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This isn't any different from EVE players going to Hello Kitty Online and demanding that they implement actual PvP.
What I'm saying is that this game isn't for everyone. The notion that CCP should accommodate every type of playstyle is pants-on-head ******** since this is not a multi-shard game. ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Roderick Grey
Assisted Genocide Black Legion.
118
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:53:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Why shouldn't people be allowed to play EVE without having to deal with some no-life d-bags ******* with them who are too cowardly to "pvp" in low or null?
EVE is a sandbox game that should encompass as many playstyles as possible. There is no good reason that douchebag activity can't be restricted to low and null.
I know a lot of people are afraid to lose their skilless/riskless"pvp" that hardly amounts to more than shooting fish in a barrel and are throwing up their hands about crimewatch, but this is exactly what this game needs. Less abusable mechanics and less cowards able to mess with others while under the protection of concord.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to play EVE without the cowardly douche bags.
The thing that really irritates me this when people throw the word sandbox around, sandbox game play is all about freedom it isn't about appealing to everyone, sandbox gameplay determines that players should have a large amount of freedom, if a player wants to blow up your barge, he can if he spends enough isk and is smart, he might not make a profit, but he can. You can deny kills by fitting a tank to your ship, or using a tankier ship or by choosing a less populated route.
There is a good reason that douchebag activity can't be contained is because IT'S A SANDBOX! |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
217
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:54:00 -
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This new and exciting topic deserved a new thread?
How many threads we have about it now? I stopped counting... _______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
231
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Posted - 2012.11.26 16:55:00 -
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I'm locking this topic as a duplicate of this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175602
Please keep these discussions in that thread, and keep the personal attacks and trolling to a minimum CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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