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Gunnyt31
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:59:00 -
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I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored. |
Taoist Dragon
Forced Penetration
Reckless Faith
77
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:06:00 -
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I always honour 1v1's
But
I always expect them to be broken when 1v1'ing an unknown opponent. And if they get broken then I will never 1v1 with them again. I will however hunt them douwn and gank them with impunity.
If I have a 1v1 with some one and it is honoured then I'll most certainly have another go.
Also a lot of people seem to get confused with 1v1 vs 'fair fight'.......No such thing as a fair fight in eve unless it is with 'VERY VERY VERY' good friends and 1v1 does not equal 'fair' 
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |
Gangname Style
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:07:00 -
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guy scared to 1v1? must suck.
end of story. |
Gunnyt31
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:09:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:I always honour 1v1's But I always expect them to be broken when 1v1'ing an unknown opponent. And if they get broken then I will never 1v1 with them again. I will however hunt them douwn and gank them with impunity. If I have a 1v1 with some one and it is honoured then I'll most certainly have another go. Also a lot of people seem to get confused with 1v1 vs 'fair fight'.......No such thing as a fair fight in eve unless it is with 'VERY VERY VERY' good friends and 1v1 does not equal 'fair'
my problem isn't that he dishonored it its that he asked for help from the very beginning and had no intention of honoring it. So this is kind of a warning to the community too |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
873
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:21:00 -
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People who do not honour 1v1s, or any other set number fights, are scum.
That said, generally speaking people in kspace will not honour them.
For the record, if you run into my corp, we do honour set fights, should we accept them.
Be warned that if you do not honour your end, we will hunt you down. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
204
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:52:00 -
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Wait a week. Ask for another1v1. Gank them all. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
230
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Posted - 2012.11.27 06:12:00 -
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1v1's should be honored.
That being said you're an idiot if you trust people to honor them.. Get the guy in fleet and safe up. |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
348
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:21:00 -
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Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored.
your tears fuel me |
Dan Carter Murray
235
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:11:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored. your tears fuel me
Your fuel tears me |
Maeltstome
The Burning Red
126
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:20:00 -
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Adding a BC kill to your killboard isn't all that impressive. I have pirated and always honored ransoms, just like i will honor a 1v1.
'Honor' aside, if people don't do what they agree to do, then it ruins it for the rest of us. Especially in the case of ransoms. Pirating isn't profitable without ransoms and ganks... so when one person doesn't honor a ransom, they create another eve player who wont pay out to people who will stand true to their word at a later date.
Long story short: Do what you say you will do, cause this sh*t always comes back to bite you. |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
639
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:20:00 -
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most people do honor arranged 1v1's
some people dont, the risk is yours and yours alone if you choose to trust them.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:34:00 -
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Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some. |
Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds
The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:20:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some.
The only people who care what Goons have to say... oh wait there are none.
Back to the OP:
There really is no reason not to honour a 1v1, except to pointlessly ***** kill mails and reveal ones own duplicity and cowardice. On the other hand there are plenty of good reasons to honour these fights, because they are fun, good practice, and allow both people more focus on the fight at hand. The people who don't honour them are simply missing out on the fun they could have had they actually had the ******* to stick to their word. |
Maeltstome
The Burning Red
127
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:42:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some.
The goons used to be fun, solid trolls and stuff. Now it's mostly care-bears and recycled insults. Common - wheres the sincerity, the heart, the soul?
Try harder, cause it was mildly entertaining before :( |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
Black Legion.
23
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:46:00 -
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Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored.
Folks will often make justifications why they break their word on one v ones in high sec. TBH its not worth worrying about. Use ships you dont care about losing and move on. Or go to low sec or nullsec to pvp and forget one v ones altogether.
I saw lots of excuses when i was in high sec for people cheating.
"Well you were tanking me so well you had to be getting remote reps.... (response =- did you see anyone else on grid flashy to you? well... no"
or
I figured you were going to cheat so i did first.
or
Well no one really honors these anyway....
or
a myriad of other excuses.
Honestly i preferred can flipping than looking for one v ones when i lived in high sec. At least then you know the other dudes whole corp may be shooting at you (or now perhaps all of eve).
I can tell you from past experience never to try to one v one anyone in jita or amarr or any other major trade hub. Even if your opponent is honestly fighting you alone you cannot be certain that others wont interfere anyway and remote rep him or you just so that they can get a little agro themselves. This happens quite alot. It also greatly increases the likelihood that one of your opponents corp mates will see you flashy and just decide to interfere on their own. It is best not to one v one on a station undock at all but obviously this is often where it happens. Also keep in mind that many a person puts out a can as bait (labeling it as one v one or something similar) with no intentions of honoring a one v one. They may honor it if you talk to them before hand but they rarely will if you just flip the can and expect it. It is also likely that their corp mates will be around to interfere. Always set their corp red and check local for friends before you tip the can. This wont show you remote reppers (friends out of corp) but it will show you who else is in system that could shoot at you.
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Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds
The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:34:00 -
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Disastro wrote:[
Folks will often make justifications why they break their word on one v ones in high sec. TBH its not worth worrying about. Use ships you dont care about losing and move on. Or go to low sec or nullsec to pvp and forget one v ones altogether.
I saw lots of excuses when i was in high sec for people cheating.
They were in low sec, they are in opposing Militias. Really it was just a fight to have some fun, and then all the sudden the other player goes "Lols, I sunked your battleship loser. I'm ultimate PvP, sucker!" For the one who broke his word, it's more about stoking a fragile ego than it is about having a good time, which is just silly. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
632
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:07:00 -
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If some guy dishonors a 1v1 then put him on your "don't 1v1" list and move on. Tell all your friends and blackball him. Or gank him next time. Your choice. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1190
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:33:00 -
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There's no "fair fights" in EVE, but there is such a thing as honour, and if you dishonour a 1v1, you're a pretty terrible person.
Mane 614
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:51:00 -
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I laughed...
A 1 v 1 in Eve? |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
176
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:21:00 -
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Yeah its a bummer, stopped accepting 1v1s a while ago because if it. Douches gonna douche.
QCATs is recruiting
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
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Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
55
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:30:00 -
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I have learned to be weary of anything that "Mystical Might" is near. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1165
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:03:00 -
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Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
86
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:17:00 -
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Last time I did an honor 1v1 I had a wolf in strucutre with my celestis when a vindi and guardian appeared.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Gangname Style
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:17:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime.
What do you even know about 1v1s? All you've ever done is gank miners and fight in 100 man fleet battles.
Please don't meddle in the big boy discussions. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1165
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:18:00 -
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Gangname Style wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime. What do you even know about 1v1s? All you've ever done is gank miners and fight in 100 man fleet battles.
1v1= When a person fights another person who has people ready to jump in. See, was that so hard?
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:31:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:I laughed...
A 1 v 1 in Eve?
Even in a wardec i had been able to 1 v 1 a veteran player while one of my corpies and one of his war allies watched alongside.
But by all means go ahead and say they don't happen  |
March rabbit
Aliastra
272
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:37:00 -
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It's no matter what people say. There are people in Eve who respect themself enough to honor 1v1 fights. You just try it and ban (for yourself) person who is too low for it. You won't loose much. |
Mystical Might
Alekhine's Gun
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
117
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:06:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I have learned to be weary of anything that "Mystical Might" is near.
I'm simply a believer in honor. I solo pvp a lot, and know what it's like when someone dishonors a 1vs1. My views and ideals aren't blurred by sides; I'd happily kill gunny any day, but not in that way. You could be someone i really dislike, and still get to see this nice side of me.
In other news, that duder is on my KOS list.
Shootblueseveryday.
~HonoR~
Edit; phone typing is **** rawr. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Unclaimed.
273
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:18:00 -
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In my old corp we left a corpy to die in a 1v1 even tho we were on grid and he was screaming for us to help. We honored 1v1 's even not our own. We were there tho because we knew not everyone does... we just didnt realize it would be our own member who chickened out.... he rage quit the corp afterwards :p
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Lockheed19
ColdBlueAnt Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:19:00 -
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For crying out loud......it's 'honour', NOT 'honor'.
Sheesh. |
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