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Gunnyt31
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:59:00 -
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I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored. |
Taoist Dragon
Forced Penetration
Reckless Faith
77
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:06:00 -
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I always honour 1v1's
But
I always expect them to be broken when 1v1'ing an unknown opponent. And if they get broken then I will never 1v1 with them again. I will however hunt them douwn and gank them with impunity.
If I have a 1v1 with some one and it is honoured then I'll most certainly have another go.
Also a lot of people seem to get confused with 1v1 vs 'fair fight'.......No such thing as a fair fight in eve unless it is with 'VERY VERY VERY' good friends and 1v1 does not equal 'fair' 
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |
Gangname Style
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:07:00 -
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guy scared to 1v1? must suck.
end of story. |
Gunnyt31
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:09:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:I always honour 1v1's But I always expect them to be broken when 1v1'ing an unknown opponent. And if they get broken then I will never 1v1 with them again. I will however hunt them douwn and gank them with impunity. If I have a 1v1 with some one and it is honoured then I'll most certainly have another go. Also a lot of people seem to get confused with 1v1 vs 'fair fight'.......No such thing as a fair fight in eve unless it is with 'VERY VERY VERY' good friends and 1v1 does not equal 'fair'
my problem isn't that he dishonored it its that he asked for help from the very beginning and had no intention of honoring it. So this is kind of a warning to the community too |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
873
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:21:00 -
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People who do not honour 1v1s, or any other set number fights, are scum.
That said, generally speaking people in kspace will not honour them.
For the record, if you run into my corp, we do honour set fights, should we accept them.
Be warned that if you do not honour your end, we will hunt you down. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
204
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:52:00 -
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Wait a week. Ask for another1v1. Gank them all. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
230
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Posted - 2012.11.27 06:12:00 -
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1v1's should be honored.
That being said you're an idiot if you trust people to honor them.. Get the guy in fleet and safe up. |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
348
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:21:00 -
[8] - Quote
Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored.
your tears fuel me |
Dan Carter Murray
235
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:11:00 -
[9] - Quote
Super Chair wrote:Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored. your tears fuel me
Your fuel tears me |
Maeltstome
The Burning Red
126
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:20:00 -
[10] - Quote
Adding a BC kill to your killboard isn't all that impressive. I have pirated and always honored ransoms, just like i will honor a 1v1.
'Honor' aside, if people don't do what they agree to do, then it ruins it for the rest of us. Especially in the case of ransoms. Pirating isn't profitable without ransoms and ganks... so when one person doesn't honor a ransom, they create another eve player who wont pay out to people who will stand true to their word at a later date.
Long story short: Do what you say you will do, cause this sh*t always comes back to bite you. |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
639
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:20:00 -
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most people do honor arranged 1v1's
some people dont, the risk is yours and yours alone if you choose to trust them.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:34:00 -
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Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some. |
Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds
The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:20:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some.
The only people who care what Goons have to say... oh wait there are none.
Back to the OP:
There really is no reason not to honour a 1v1, except to pointlessly ***** kill mails and reveal ones own duplicity and cowardice. On the other hand there are plenty of good reasons to honour these fights, because they are fun, good practice, and allow both people more focus on the fight at hand. The people who don't honour them are simply missing out on the fun they could have had they actually had the ******* to stick to their word. |
Maeltstome
The Burning Red
127
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:42:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Anyone who expects honor by default in Eve deserves whatever they get and then some.
The goons used to be fun, solid trolls and stuff. Now it's mostly care-bears and recycled insults. Common - wheres the sincerity, the heart, the soul?
Try harder, cause it was mildly entertaining before :( |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
Black Legion.
23
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:46:00 -
[15] - Quote
Gunnyt31 wrote:I wasn't going to start post until I got an evemail after I lost my temper over a an agreed 1v1 being broken.
Re: very honroable
From: dangsterd
Sent: 2012.11.27 00:47
To: Gunnyt31,
There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose.
very honroable
From: Gunnyt31
Sent: 2012.11.26 18:17
To: dangsterd,
Mystical Might > dangsterd > i asked for a 1v1 in Nennamaila planet 1 anyone want to make sure is a 1v1 or want to join the fun you are welcome lol
javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}
I can copy paste the chat logs of the agreed 1v1, but apparently dangsterd after agreeing to a 1v1 with me stated the above quote in a channel.
we had a 1v1 rupture v thorax he won no problem there, then we go back for bcs hurricane v myrmidon and as he lands a purifier uncloaks and a naga lands. Do not mistake this post as a QQ post, but feel free to troll. However an agreed 1v1 fight shouldn't be dishonored.
Folks will often make justifications why they break their word on one v ones in high sec. TBH its not worth worrying about. Use ships you dont care about losing and move on. Or go to low sec or nullsec to pvp and forget one v ones altogether.
I saw lots of excuses when i was in high sec for people cheating.
"Well you were tanking me so well you had to be getting remote reps.... (response =- did you see anyone else on grid flashy to you? well... no"
or
I figured you were going to cheat so i did first.
or
Well no one really honors these anyway....
or
a myriad of other excuses.
Honestly i preferred can flipping than looking for one v ones when i lived in high sec. At least then you know the other dudes whole corp may be shooting at you (or now perhaps all of eve).
I can tell you from past experience never to try to one v one anyone in jita or amarr or any other major trade hub. Even if your opponent is honestly fighting you alone you cannot be certain that others wont interfere anyway and remote rep him or you just so that they can get a little agro themselves. This happens quite alot. It also greatly increases the likelihood that one of your opponents corp mates will see you flashy and just decide to interfere on their own. It is best not to one v one on a station undock at all but obviously this is often where it happens. Also keep in mind that many a person puts out a can as bait (labeling it as one v one or something similar) with no intentions of honoring a one v one. They may honor it if you talk to them before hand but they rarely will if you just flip the can and expect it. It is also likely that their corp mates will be around to interfere. Always set their corp red and check local for friends before you tip the can. This wont show you remote reppers (friends out of corp) but it will show you who else is in system that could shoot at you.
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Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds
The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:34:00 -
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Disastro wrote:[
Folks will often make justifications why they break their word on one v ones in high sec. TBH its not worth worrying about. Use ships you dont care about losing and move on. Or go to low sec or nullsec to pvp and forget one v ones altogether.
I saw lots of excuses when i was in high sec for people cheating.
They were in low sec, they are in opposing Militias. Really it was just a fight to have some fun, and then all the sudden the other player goes "Lols, I sunked your battleship loser. I'm ultimate PvP, sucker!" For the one who broke his word, it's more about stoking a fragile ego than it is about having a good time, which is just silly. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
632
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:07:00 -
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If some guy dishonors a 1v1 then put him on your "don't 1v1" list and move on. Tell all your friends and blackball him. Or gank him next time. Your choice. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1190
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:33:00 -
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There's no "fair fights" in EVE, but there is such a thing as honour, and if you dishonour a 1v1, you're a pretty terrible person.
Mane 614
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:51:00 -
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I laughed...
A 1 v 1 in Eve? |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
176
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:21:00 -
[20] - Quote
Yeah its a bummer, stopped accepting 1v1s a while ago because if it. Douches gonna douche.
QCATs is recruiting
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
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Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
55
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:30:00 -
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I have learned to be weary of anything that "Mystical Might" is near. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1165
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:03:00 -
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Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
86
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:17:00 -
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Last time I did an honor 1v1 I had a wolf in strucutre with my celestis when a vindi and guardian appeared.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Gangname Style
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:17:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime.
What do you even know about 1v1s? All you've ever done is gank miners and fight in 100 man fleet battles.
Please don't meddle in the big boy discussions. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1165
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:18:00 -
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Gangname Style wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Honour is what you have when you play to lose. Ask Band of Brothers all about it sometime. What do you even know about 1v1s? All you've ever done is gank miners and fight in 100 man fleet battles.
1v1= When a person fights another person who has people ready to jump in. See, was that so hard?
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:31:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:I laughed...
A 1 v 1 in Eve?
Even in a wardec i had been able to 1 v 1 a veteran player while one of my corpies and one of his war allies watched alongside.
But by all means go ahead and say they don't happen  |
March rabbit
Aliastra
272
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:37:00 -
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It's no matter what people say. There are people in Eve who respect themself enough to honor 1v1 fights. You just try it and ban (for yourself) person who is too low for it. You won't loose much. |
Mystical Might
Alekhine's Gun
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
117
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:06:00 -
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Ashterothi wrote:I have learned to be weary of anything that "Mystical Might" is near.
I'm simply a believer in honor. I solo pvp a lot, and know what it's like when someone dishonors a 1vs1. My views and ideals aren't blurred by sides; I'd happily kill gunny any day, but not in that way. You could be someone i really dislike, and still get to see this nice side of me.
In other news, that duder is on my KOS list.
Shootblueseveryday.
~HonoR~
Edit; phone typing is **** rawr. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Unclaimed.
273
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:18:00 -
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In my old corp we left a corpy to die in a 1v1 even tho we were on grid and he was screaming for us to help. We honored 1v1 's even not our own. We were there tho because we knew not everyone does... we just didnt realize it would be our own member who chickened out.... he rage quit the corp afterwards :p
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Nulla Curas |
Lockheed19
ColdBlueAnt Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:19:00 -
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For crying out loud......it's 'honour', NOT 'honor'.
Sheesh. |
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Lockheed19
ColdBlueAnt Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:23:00 -
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Chrome Striker...! Separated at birth?  |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
146
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:39:00 -
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Fleet
Warp fleet to safe spot
Don't give the other guy the rank to invite
Duel in medium or small ships that are somewhat difficult to scan down.
There, that'll save you from 99% of folks that try to back out. If you want further paranoia, pack a bit of ECM, activate it and bail if you see someone in his corp (which you've obviously marked unfriendly, because you don't suck, right?) pop in local. |
Abyssum Invocat
Justified Chaos
41
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:07:00 -
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If you're going to 1v1 someone, invite them to fleet. If it auto-declines saying that they are already in a fleet, don't 1v1 them. It's not exactly complicated and weeds out most gank attempts. |
Karig'Ano Keikira
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.11.29 22:16:00 -
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One of things I find kinda strange about EVE is amount of trouble people seem to put themselves through to 'get kill'. I saw myself hunted by dozens of people and saw people block both sides of system with 3 gates, pulling more then 20 people to kill single pve equipped raven (not like I expected to see it come home, but still... :) ). As result, I guess honoring 1v1 is kinda rare :(. Same problem with pirates and ransoms - I saw more pirates just eager to kill you no matter if you pay up or not |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
685
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Posted - 2012.11.30 21:28:00 -
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I used to ask/for take allot of 1v1s in low sec. I don't think any of them were dishonored purposefully - yes a few times we took them at somewhat busy places and others joined. I no longer ask because I am a bit tired of them.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Oreb Wing
Purging Maelstrom
Villore Accords
27
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Posted - 2012.12.01 01:54:00 -
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I flew in on one of your fights once. Didn't know it was a 1v1. Corpie shoulda told me. I've never asked or accepted one from you as of yet, but that damn plexing hookbill of yours will go down by my guns one day. You always get a fight with Gunny. |
Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
4
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:26:00 -
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In a busy system I'd always 1v1 at a safe, fleeted. It just prevents any funny business, loud just because 2 people agree to 1v1 doesn't mean anyone else can't try to intervene, other then friends of the participants trying to sway the fight. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
206
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Posted - 2012.12.02 16:33:00 -
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I like when the asshats post "It's Eve, You don't need Honour." And they act like that makes them credible or something.
Since the beginning of time, games are exactly where you are supposed to have honour. |
Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State
State Section 9
22
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Posted - 2012.12.02 18:51:00 -
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The Brit inside me is shivering at the sheer volume of "honor" in this thread.
What ever happened to honour?
Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.12.02 21:07:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote:The Brit inside me is shivering at the sheer volume of "honor" in this thread.
What ever happened to honour?
What happened? Your empire fell and we co-opted your language.
Better learn to deal with it. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
25
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Posted - 2012.12.02 21:35:00 -
[41] - Quote
Please don't change the subject of this thread in to a language discussion.
Otherwise I would have the sad 'honneur' to lock it....
ISD Ezwal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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TriadSte
IronPig
Sev3rance
133
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Posted - 2012.12.03 12:33:00 -
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There is no such things as a 1 on 1 because one of them is gonna have a booster in system.
Booster
+
implants such as slaves/crystals
+
combat boosters
=
win
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Skelee VI
Sturmgrenadier Inc
16
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:16:00 -
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What's a 1 vs 1? Been so long! but they should be honoured. |
Juliade
Purging Maelstrom
Villore Accords
5
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:31:00 -
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I've had a few 1v1 on occasions, some with pirates and some with squids. Never had one that was dishonoured. For what it's worth, I personally do honour them and we as a corp encourage people to honour them. I even enforce it whenever I am in the same system, though I keep people on standby for obvious reasons (e.g. cheaters, liars, and the like).
The key element here though is that it has to be set up. If I encounter a lone ship and a 1v1 was never agreed to, I will call for help if the fight starts going sideways, though I still enjoy trying to take him solo. |
Mich Farmer
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:35:00 -
[45] - Quote
Juliade wrote:we as a corp encourage people to honour them. I even enforce it whenever I am in the same system, though I keep people on standby for obvious reasons (e.g. cheaters, liars, and the like).
I remember back in the time of Draketrain when there was agreed cruiser duel and you still felt the need to send extra person to field despite agreement. Spectator, yeah right. Goes to show how far your word goes.
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Juliade
Purging Maelstrom
Villore Accords
5
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Posted - 2012.12.05 09:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
Mich Farmer wrote:Juliade wrote:we as a corp encourage people to honour them. I even enforce it whenever I am in the same system, though I keep people on standby for obvious reasons (e.g. cheaters, liars, and the like). I remember back in the time of Draketrain when there was agreed cruiser duel and you still felt the need to send extra person to field despite agreement. Spectator, yeah right. Goes to show how far your word goes.
I don't remember any arranged cruiser fights since I don't field them on a regular basis. But I do remember a fight where a corp mate wanted to stay and spectate.
That fight was actually a frigate fight, which didn't start out as an arranged fight. We got away from him (100km+ in plex) and he still warped off as per opponent's request. That fight was honoured, your accusation rings hollow.
http://synenose.com/gmvakb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=25525
In case it wasn't that particular fight: I chose my wording carefully. We encourage honouring them, we don't guarantee it. I personally honour them. Hence, "for what it's worth". |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
109
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Posted - 2012.12.06 06:48:00 -
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I've 1 vs 1...lost every stinking one but I had fun, that was the point no? |
Lockheed19
ColdBlueAnt Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:59:00 -
[48] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:Please don't change the subject of this thread in to a language discussion. Otherwise I would have the sad 'honneur' to lock it....
Awww..........ah well. At least no-one mentioned 'a_l_u_m_i_n_i_u_m', eh?
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Lockheed19
ColdBlueAnt Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:10:00 -
[49] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:I like when the asshats post "It's Eve, You don't need Honour." And they act like that makes them credible or something.
Since the beginning of time, games are exactly where you are supposed to have honour.
Agreed. But let's remember, online anonymity guarantees no direct fall-out to these people. I wonder if they are like this in RL?
For example, the Americans are rightly proud of their military and the Marines quite rightfully hold battlefield honour in the highest regard. Even if remaining honourable meant they lose a battle or skirmish. Would the same self-serving dishonourable players whine if they got into a fight outside a bar with someone and all of a sudden got ganked by two or three of their opponents mates who jumped in? Umm, hell yes. Yet, in a game of pixels these people seem to alter their viewpoint accordingly. Bizarre. It's that weird thing I never quite understand about the internet. The abject fascination and desire to wind people up to the point where they get angry which in turn makes their protagonist extremely happy. I just don't geddit. Truly, I would love to see these people acting this way in RL situations. There would be a lot of unconscious geeks littering the streets. |
Skelee VI
Sturmgrenadier Inc
16
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:03:00 -
[50] - Quote
Had a 1 vs 1 in empty system, honorable. nice for a change. I lost but still fun. |
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