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ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.11.29 10:39:00 -
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Mr Greyscale by your silence and non replying to statements and concerns over this unfinished feature that has to be reset every single time we log in with no option to make it persist or have it switched off. Can i assume you are going to ignore all concerns and push this useless unfinished feature in anyway saying FU to anyone outside of high sec and then have us suffer it until you get around to finishing it in 2013, if you think it even needs finishing.
Do the right thing and scrap this rubbish until you have actually finished the content and it can be set to persist or have an option to turn the eveoneasymode button off. The button doesnt even have its own place on the hud, its just stuck on top of % read outs which makes it look even more unprofessional and rushed. Has it even been properly tested yet?
This just reminds me of the sentrygate idea where it took a shitstorm brewing before you realise its ******** and wrong. WTF are the CSM when this idea was getting thrown around and why didnt they speak up when it came to light this content is getting added in an unfinished state?
Lots of tryed, tested, taken feedback on board content in this patch and hats off to the teams that actually did complete thier content for 4th dec and who also read threads and threads and took feedback on board and acted on it before it meets tq. Then less than a week before we're hit with this rubbish unfinished useless content thats gonna be foreced on us no matter what gets said or fedback to the designers responsible,
You're gonna find another shotstorm brewing come retribution if you ignore all the concerns and this could have the potential to take the shine of an otherwise decent release. Do you want ppl talking and bigging up all the changes or do you want them on here whining about features that got rushed in regardless of customer opinion and feedback. Do the right thing Greyscale do what the other teams do and actually llisten to the ppl that help pay your wages every month by paying for said unfinished substandard content.
Was looking forward to 4th Dec now i couldnt care less cause i know i have to be force fed a feature everytime i log in that was called as being **** before its even impllemented but was just added anyway. Im sure im not the only one. |
ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:41:00 -
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I'm still waiting on valid reason from dev's from this team for implementing this unfinished product that isnt persistant and cant be set to default red/off. This shouldnt be force fed to low sec or null sec players if it cant like everything else in the client be customisable by the user and remembered when i log off. Every other team has been making changes based on customer feedback from testing and forum posts and have listened to feedback from us, so far i see devs only replying to questions regarding parts of this blog people arent whining about. Lots of cool stuff coming on tuesday and this just puts a massive smudge on the icing of an otherwise decent expansion.
Have it remember our prefences or dont add it till it can. |
ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:15:00 -
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Tumbleweed
Thanks for ignoring feedback and not replying to any questions.
Is there anyone from this dev team available to comment or will i come back on tuesday to and post in the feedback thread once its on tq and i have to have it cover my % readout and have to switch it off at every log in 3 or 4 times and nothing can be done till you start patching fixes. You cant seriously intend to roll out unfinished content.
You said it wasnt ready in time and im pretty sure you wouldnt put an half built gearbox in you car. If your mechanic told you your car would be ready on tuesday with a new gearbox and the gearbox wasnt finished would you just get him to fit it anyway or would you wait till the end of the week when he had it done properly?
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ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 11:14:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Just stopping by to let you all know I will be addressing this at the Winter Summit, the persistence issue on the safety will by no means be ignored. I, too, will be one of the players having to mess with shutting this off every first undock when I log in, from Dec. 4 until it gets patched. And it should be patched, soon. ThereGÇÖs no reason to have this not be a toggled feature in the options menu.
That being said, the reason you haven't heard any response from the developers after 16 pages of anger is because their answer the first time remains the same. They are way past GÇ£add new thingsGÇ¥ and preparing the code for release. IGÇÖll be speaking with the team and the summit and doing my best to make sure this is a priority for the inevitable point release. Until then, calling the developers stupid or incompetent or deliberately designing this to be broken is a waste of time and energy. In addition to personal attacks being a forum violation, they wonGÇÖt accelerate a solution to the problem. Rest assured I am equally frustrated and will be giving this my personal attention.
But why is it being added unfinished its complete and utter bull hans and you are just making excuses for incompetance. I watched Greyscale on the NEO and listened to his excuse and i still call bull. Its easier for me if i just add it anyway and feck the majority of players that want this feature to persist because it too much work for me and my team. Then he tryed to make amends by saying we are making it easier for bad guys by stopping sentrys shooting drones which imo is overdue but will never ever compensate for being force fed half finished content. What a crock of **** greyscale if you and your team didnt have it finished in time then it shouldnt be in this release.
Retribution is imo the best release for a while and props to ccp for it but this idiocy has taken the shine off it for me and probably most of the low sec community. "Hey we can use drones on the gate guys and the gate guns wont kill them anymore but you have to remember to disable the half finished button on your hud before you can engage said drones. AND you have to disable every fecking time you log in until this part of the product you pay for is finished. Props
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ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:15:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Kevin Emoto wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:ANGRY23 wrote:Tumbleweed
Thanks for ignoring feedback and not replying to any questions.
Is there anyone from this dev team available to comment or will i come back on tuesday to and post in the feedback thread once its on tq and i have to have it cover my % readout and have to switch it off at every log in 3 or 4 times and nothing can be done till you start patching fixes. You cant seriously intend to roll out unfinished content.
You said it wasnt ready in time and im pretty sure you wouldnt put an half built gearbox in you car. If your mechanic told you your car would be ready on tuesday with a new gearbox and the gearbox wasnt finished would you just get him to fit it anyway or would you wait till the end of the week when he had it done properly?
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Angry23 He's already told you it's going in as is, and that making the settings persistant would be something added afterwards if enough people want it. I realize you didn't like his answer, but that doesn't change the fact that your concern was responded to already. I have little doubt that demand will continue to have the settings be made persistant. In fact, if this isn't on the plate for the point release afterwards I'll join you in needling them. But seriously, having checked it out on the test server it is no where near as onerous as you seem to think it will be. And yes, I operate extensively in all security levels of EvE space (with a slight emphasis on Low Sec). And if we don't point out it sucks, how will CCP know we want the ability to turn off this care bear feature for ourselves? Stop your constant trolling of those of us who see an obvious flaw and inconsistency in the product, and go raise your post count elsewhere. How will they know? Perhaps by the 17 pages of tear filled, personal insult spewing rants contained in this thread. The same people chanting the same argument ad nauseam isn't necessary, especially when we ALL know the expansion is feature locked at this point. If you'll notice, I"m in favor of it being made persistant as well. I'm just pointing out mindless insulting rants are not needed nor appreciated, by anyone. By the way, you'll know it if I ever decide to start trolling a thread... and this isn't it. 
I dont recall my posts being ninja'ed for personal attacks but w/e
Please stop posting unrelated bile. You are in favour of it being persistant you just dont leave high sec often enough for it to trouble you. We know now so stop filling the thread up with rubbish so when devs actually do get round to reading it they dont have to scroll through the petty arguements to get to the feedback and concerns.
Stay on topic or gtfo |
ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 05:13:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:I've not been responding further to the "persistance" issue because I try to avoid posting unless I have something to contribute, and my answer today is the same that it was when I explained it earlier in this thread, and again during the New Eden Open: we didn't have time to implement it in time for Retribution.
This wouldn't normally be a problem, but our time machine is having its 100,000 year service this month, so we were rather embarassingly caught in the position of not being able to just create a couple of extra days last week to finish up everything we wanted to do. This is entirely my fault - we had some text that missed the translation deadline so I popped back to ask Nikolai Telsa to do it, and accidentally ticked past 100,000 in the process. Sorry.
I watched evetv last night and you answered most questions/concerns from this thread but actually replying here carries more weight imo. For me the annoying thing was no dev activity for nearly a week which looks like the concerns/feedback were being ignored. I know i'll stfu now and watch feedback threads for updates now i heard it from the horses mouth and im sure more ppl will too as we now have a direct reply from the dev behind the blog. There were 3500 ppl on that stream iirc and im sure i can bet that at least double that will log in 2m after the patch and not even know what the safety is which is why it is good to have threads like this with dev activity for ppl who dont bother to read the patch notes or follow blogs and go on test server to try it.
Its the day before winter expansion and you have taken the time to come here and reply to our whineage so props for that and also props for staying in char for the 2nd half of your post.
Fix that time machine ffs and give me my persistance please sir
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