So, you just contradicted your previous statement that LNA had no significant impact on the bunker today.

You are only a 2011 character from rifterlings (formerly at war with us and now joined to the UK alliance). You quit rifterlings to join TRIAD and been there for ONLY 3 months. I think you are not very knowledgable of these issues and are prejudiced against the facts.

You dont speak for TRIAD by any stretch and certainly are incorrect in your assertions. Best you quit talking about things you clearly know little or nothing about. TRIAD and LNA are on good terms. One of their new members (from UK no less) spouting off here (on their behalf seemingly) wont make them happy Im sure.

I dont doubt TRIAD ahs been helping UK in that area. We have been working the area also and are not taking any credit for making it vulnerable. You cant say we havent helped.

You would not now own that system if it wasnt for us busting the bunker today. Almity would have pwned you silly.

We plexed floseswin vunerable, it would have fallen according to plan. Regardless of whatever bullshit you spout. TRIAD has been key in capturing Floseswin and saving isbra. That you don't know this is sign enough that you don't give a **** about the militia or its strategic goals.

Well actually 3-4 Corps/Alliances have been key to taking Flose. These cover the 3-4 major timezones. TRIAD for the EU TZ, UK for the US Timezone and Swift in the AU timezone. Although I'd suggest that people from some of the other alliances/corps have assisted over the last week as well and we thank them for it. All have been instramental in taking the system as if one of those timezones werent held the other timezones would have not been successful.

EDIT: Either way great job Minmatar Militia for the concerted efforts.

You mean the phantom fleet that camped ardar. Almity (amarr fc) had a fleet there ready to wipe you out. He can vouch for this as your leadership who was informed of the existence of the fleet. Unless you are saying you are too incompetent to notice a fleet that size about to jump you. Or you are saying your leadership withheld the intel intentionally.

If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.

If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.

How about you join us in the war...

Well actually 3-4 Corps/Alliances have been key to taking Flose. These cover the 3-4 major timezones. TRIAD for the EU TZ, UK for the US Timezone and Swift in the AU timezone. Although I'd suggest that people from some of the other alliances/corps have assisted over the last week as well and we thank them for it. All have been instramental in taking the system as if one of those timezones werent held the other timezones would have not been successful.

EDIT: Either way great job Minmatar Militia for the concerted efforts.

huh? you really ASSUME alot dont you. the part about the amarr militia fleet going purple on purple with us. im sure that likely. the part about us supposedly being informed of another amarr militia fleet. the part about our leadership witholding intel lol.

If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.

The point is to keep the record straight since UK is spinning lies.

<3 I'm glad that a little homework has led you to a reasonable and sensible point of view. LNA has either made this argument very poorly, or they have no intention of being taken seriously and went at it for the fun and the 'troll' of it. I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, to be honest.

I, such as I am, stand behind my old allies from Ushra'Khan. They've always been good to me, and dealt fairly and honestly with me and my friends even when they had no obligation to do so. LNA should focus more on fighting the Amarr - they're the real enemy here, guys.

Well actually 3-4 Corps/Alliances have been key to taking Flose. These cover the 3-4 major timezones. TRIAD for the EU TZ, UK for the US Timezone and Swift in the AU timezone. Although I'd suggest that people from some of the other alliances/corps have assisted over the last week as well and we thank them for it. All have been instramental in taking the system as if one of those timezones werent held the other timezones would have not been successful.

EDIT: Either way great job Minmatar Militia for the concerted efforts.

But they've already shown substantiative video evidence that proves they aren't.

Join you guys in the war? LNA, and before its incarnation has always, and will always live directly on the front line of the war. We have lived in the amarr's former home system, effectively exterminating them from the system. How about you join us in the war...

They show only what they want you to see that they can use to support their deceit.

They don't show you that while they said they wanted a truce they were at the same time killing one of our cynabals and two sfi's.

Iron Oxide leadership can vouch for that since they were trying to mediate at the time.

The night before, under a supposed truce again, two UK thrashers and an sfi red boxed me in uisper.

I find it funny that they'd video anything regarding this. Clearly they have set it up so they can lie.

Flosewin has fallen! Aset is in our sights and will be another grand tail. I just pray that this LNA/UK mess can be sorted and we can ALL barsk in the glory of freeing the Minmatar from the slavers. As the combined forces of LNA/Iron Oxide/UK/SWIFT/TRIAD and the rest of Militia could quite easily squash ANY Amarrian resistance.

"For the Minmatar"

As for LNA and UK, it sounds like the same thing that happens in all the militias. Ultimately agenda's clash, **** happens and you'll all get over it.

If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.

Andiedeath, Since the start of this discussion one thing is certain. you clearly sympathize with the terrorists and propagate their deceit. They aggressors first. I have that on multiple credible eye witnesses.

Not to mention my own experience the night prior.

Have you any idea just how close that Amarrian BC gang was when the IHub fell? We warped out straight away, they jumped in not soon after. The DPS we removed from the field was in no way comparable to what LNA brought. It's possible the bunker would have fallen without our assistance, but I find it extremely unlikely.