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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:14:00 -
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Misha M'Liena wrote:*Sitting and eatting popcorn. Passes some to Andreus and the triad gent.* Oh don't mind me. Continue on with your delusions Amun.
Fact is a fact, mr Ushra Khan alt. look up the history of your alliance and find out why their alliance got disbanded
http://evenews24.com/2010/07/24/ushra-¦khan-disbanded/
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Misha M'Liena
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
660
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:20:00 -
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Sorry Amun. But i'm me. I'm not a Ushra alt. You won't believe me, but thats ok. I still think Shahfluff is a great pilot and i had the utmost respect for b420 in the past.
Not as innocent as she appears.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:31:00 -
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Misha M'Liena wrote:Sorry Amun. But i'm me. I'm not a Ushra alt. You won't believe me, but thats ok. I still think Shahfluff is a great pilot and i had the utmost respect for b420 in the past.
Nothing to believe.
UK was blue to all of us at one time years ago. They became purple when they came to militia a few months ago. Drama follows them and wherever they go they leave with people hating them and trying to kill them. Something is obviously wrong with how they handle things and run the alliance.
In our case, it was AWOXing our pilots then acting out publicly when we responded and intentionally invading plexes seconds before the timer ran out whicht we worked to secure. The when we complain to their diplos they movie us the run around and turn it into our fault that they invaded our plex or shot our guys.
Everything they do is public and with the intent of setting up situations to slander us with.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1196
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:45:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote:UK needed to be cleared off of the field so the bunker could be taken before the amarr fleet arrived.
It's been repeatedly stated by other alliances who were in the system that day and demonstrated by video evidence that the bunker was already deep in armour by the time LNA arrived in the system. Heck, even my source in LNA says that you all knew this. Given that you clearly had capitals on standby to drop on top of Ushra'Khan, a far more productive use of both of your time would have been either to respect the ceasefire that Ushra'Khan had every reason to believe was in place and add your strength to theirs at the very least until the bunker was down, or engage the Amarr fleet yourself to give U'K time to finish the bunker.
Mane 614
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:07:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote:UK needed to be cleared off of the field so the bunker could be taken before the amarr fleet arrived. It's been repeatedly stated by other alliances who were in the system that day and demonstrated by video evidence that the bunker was already deep in armour by the time LNA arrived in the system. Heck, even my source in LNA says that you all knew this. Given that you clearly had capitals on standby to drop on top of Ushra'Khan, a far more productive use of both of your time would have been either to respect the ceasefire that Ushra'Khan had every reason to believe was in place and add your strength to theirs at the very least until the bunker was down, or engage the Amarr fleet yourself to give U'K time to finish the bunker.
No it hasn't been stated by anyone other than UK (save some random UK members who have joined TRIAD and have sympathies mixed) It was roughly 1/4 deep (maybe slightly more, not much) into armor when we landed. The first thing I locked when I arrived was the bunker, not UK, specifically to double check it.
It wasn't deep into armor enough to be finished by the time the amarr landed. When we finished the bunker the apart were ready to jump us in the system. Without our dps it wouldn't have happened. The rubbish fleet fielded by UK stood no chance of taking the system by the time Almity's tier 3 fleet landed.
That is fact.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
13
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:33:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote:
That is fact.
As it stands you are making assertions. Whether anyone believes your assertion is backed up by fact depends on what proof you present.
I'll admit you make a compelling argument, if one is to believe it. Having no basis to judge the credibility of either party involved based on personal experience I am limited to evaluating the evidence. So far the only sensor logs I've seen presented support the position of your opponent, and directly contradict earlier false claims by your Alliance. Now you are presenting a more nuanced case, one that reinterprets those sensor logs from your perspective. That's fine, up to a point... but you take the argument further and make claims that haven't been verified by any evidence presented by LNA.
Can you show anything to verify the proximity of the Amarr fleet you reference?
Why, if you were so well aware of the Amarr movements, did you not move to interdict their fleet? |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1196
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:35:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote:No it hasn't been stated by anyone other than UK (save some random UK members who have joined TRIAD and have sympathies mixed) It was roughly 1/4 deep (maybe slightly more, not much) into armor when we landed. The first thing I locked when I arrived was the bunker, not UK, specifically to double check it.
It wasn't deep into armor enough to be finished by the time the amarr landed. When we finished the bunker the apart were ready to jump us in the system. Without our dps it wouldn't have happened. The rubbish fleet fielded by UK stood no chance of taking the system by the time Almity's tier 3 fleet landed.
That is fact.
Out of ten seperate sources in the TLF, including the one in your own alliance, I can't find a single one who'll corroborate this "fact." The only part of your story that adds up is the fact that Ushra'Khan had only gotten about 1/4 of the way through the bunker's armour - which you could have helped with, rather than blowing them up, or disengaged to attack the Amarr fleet instead. According to literally everyone else (including a member of your alliance, remember) the Ushra'Khan fleet were making good progress through the bunker's HP.
Mane 614
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:42:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote:No it hasn't been stated by anyone other than UK (save some random UK members who have joined TRIAD and have sympathies mixed) It was roughly 1/4 deep (maybe slightly more, not much) into armor when we landed. The first thing I locked when I arrived was the bunker, not UK, specifically to double check it.
It wasn't deep into armor enough to be finished by the time the amarr landed. When we finished the bunker the apart were ready to jump us in the system. Without our dps it wouldn't have happened. The rubbish fleet fielded by UK stood no chance of taking the system by the time Almity's tier 3 fleet landed.
That is fact. Out of ten seperate sources in the TLF, including the one in your own alliance, I can't find a single one who'll corroborate this "fact." The only part of your story that adds up is the fact that Ushra'Khan had only gotten about 1/4 of the way through the bunker's armour - which you could have helped with, rather than blowing them up, or disengaged to attack the Amarr fleet instead. According to literally everyone else (including a member of your alliance, remember) the Ushra'Khan fleet were making good progress through the bunker's HP.
And you have spent a great deal of time and effort researching this so that LNA isn't slandered right? LoL right.
Fact is a fact.
One out of ten... Roflmao. Is this the Pepsi challenge?
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:48:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote:
That is fact.
As it stands you are making assertions. Whether anyone believes your assertion is backed up by fact depends on what proof you present. I'll admit you make a compelling argument, if one is to believe it. Having no basis to judge the credibility of either party involved based on personal experience I am limited to evaluating the evidence. So far the only sensor logs I've seen presented support the position of your opponent, and directly contradict earlier false claims by your Alliance. Now you are presenting a more nuanced case, one that reinterprets those sensor logs from your perspective. That's fine, up to a point... but you take the argument further and make claims that haven't been verified by any evidence presented by LNA. Can you show anything to verify the proximity of the Amarr fleet you reference? Why, if you were so well aware of the Amarr movements, did you not move to interdict their fleet?
I'm not making assertions. I give a detailed chronology of events leading to the wardec, reasons and the events in Floseswin on our website.
If Almity decides to speak for his fleets whereabouts, which I doubt since he is the Amarr FC, then you will have your proof, right from the horses mouth. I don't take snapshots of everything I do so I can convince you all of every thing that happens in my day, unlike UK it seems who videos everything they want you to see.
The fleet was one system away. I had neutral eyes on em all of the way and even informed UK myself prior to the decision to clear them out. The UK diplo in private convo with me, if he is truthful can confirm this. We nearly got our BS off field when they spiked the system. We were still in space warping to safe up in Uispur.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Aln Al-Thalab
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
9
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:26:00 -
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For once, there Is truth to something that Amun spews. I acknowledge an Amarr fleet of 40+, mostly tier 3 BCs, 1-2 jumps out at the time of LNA's attack. I also acknowledge that LNA and TLF finished what TLF and U'K started in destroying the IHUB prior to leaving the field.
LNA brought a fleet, substantially increasing Minmatar firepower on the field. They then attacked U'K, reducing Minmatar firepower on the field. Though a net gain of firepower remained, LNA hamstrung the Minmatar ability to engage the Amarr fleet which would have easily fallen to a combined TLF. The inevitable destruction of the IHUB occurred, but a great opportunity for battle with the Amarr was lost.
As for your convoluted sense of time, either you are mistaken, terribly misinformed, or lying. We can provide logs and evidence, which we compiled in anticipation of your treachery. Until you likewise present proof (which you can't), I doubt your words carry much weight.
Why don't we end the war? Our defense is just, our cause honorable, our performance thusfar... well, we sure ain't losing at the time of this post. Besides, the war ain't mutual... |
von Khan
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:54:00 -
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... and the pants are down.
von Khan
Philosopher |
Indorian
Thorn Project
Ushra'Khan
11
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:48:00 -
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von Khan wrote:... and the pants are down.
This is a great summary, no matter how many times you repeat a lie Amun it remains a lie. You are challenged by the folly of your people. Unable to provide proof to your words, you are unable to explain your fleets decision to engage the u'k members of the joint militia fleet. It was a poorly timed, unprovoked attack evidenced clearly with video.
I am also awaiting an answer on why LNA destroyed an open use militia pos in flos last night. By doing so you denied many military vessels the safety they deserve. They are now forced to await docking rights during crucial engagements.
I can't help to wonder how many more "allies" of yours will find themselves in similar situations when your leadership finally realizes you will never break the resolve of the Ushra'Khan. |
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CCP Falcon
1180
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:59:00 -
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This is an in character forum. Out of character posts are against the rules.
Stop posting out of character trash talk, or you'll find you're unable to post in future.
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