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Two step Aperture Harmonics K162 2290	Posted - 2012.11.28 16:14:00 - [1] - Quote Will post details later CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5287	Posted - 2012.11.29 11:39:00 - [2] - Quote Hard to say much about this until we see how the new system works out in practice, but since it's basically the one I proposed, I'm in favour of it MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Elzon1 Shadow Boys Corp Legion of xXDEATHXx 99	Posted - 2012.12.02 05:08:00 - [3] - Quote When will we be able to place bounties on individual objects (SBU's, IHUB's, POS's, etc.)?
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate 806	Posted - 2012.12.02 10:11:00 - [4] - Quote Elzon1 wrote: When will we be able to place bounties on individual objects (SBU's, IHUB's, POS's, etc.)? From the Retribution patch notes: Quote: Bounty is now claimed on anything that generates a Kill Report. This includes, ships, pods and structures. Full here: http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 2088	Posted - 2012.12.02 14:47:00 - [5] - Quote Instead of having a "LIKE" button, I just want to be able to place bounties on people through the forums. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 90	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:55:00 - [6] - Quote Future feature - make bounties of different types and have some of those types actionable without CONCORD protection in Highsec.
WheatGrass 8	Posted - 2012.12.05 17:53:00 - [7] - Quote Placing a bounty on a non-criminal should be a criminal offense -resulting in a flagged status and security level reduction for the duration of the bounty.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1094	Posted - 2012.12.05 21:25:00 - [8] - Quote WheatGrass wrote: Placing a bounty on a non-criminal should be a criminal offense -resulting in a flagged status and security level reduction for the duration of the bounty. "Hi, we're CCP, we've just made a new feature and now we're going to punish people who try to use it!" The whole point of the new bounty system is that it has been opened up so that you can bounty people for your own reasons, rather than forcing it into the straightjacket it previously occupied. Somebody smacked you in local? Bounty them. Want to incentise gankers in the space of your enemies? Bounty them. Someone made a bad post on eve-o? Bounty them. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5357	Posted - 2012.12.05 21:48:00 - [9] - Quote Seleene wrote: Instead of having a "LIKE" button, I just want to be able to place bounties on people through the forums. Given the large and increasing number of people who are apparently independently making this suggestion, I propose that you add this feature to the "GIT 'ER DONE" list MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5357	Posted - 2012.12.05 21:49:00 - [10] - Quote WheatGrass wrote: Placing a bounty on a non-criminal should be a criminal offense -resulting in a flagged status and security level reduction for the duration of the bounty. The "WANTED" logo space on character profiles should be reserved for use by Concord. For bounties, bounty hunters could consult the bounty tools. So you want me to have a GCC for putting a bounty on the guy who just stole all our corp's assets? Why? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."

Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 253	Posted - 2012.12.06 23:15:00 - [11] - Quote Seleene wrote: Instead of having a "LIKE" button, I just want to be able to place bounties on people through the forums. Wouldn't that be a "DISLIKE" button? If so, I like it. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Frying Doom Zat's Affiliated Traders 958	Posted - 2012.12.07 03:36:00 - [12] - Quote I would like to see bounties on applicable by characters over 5 mill SP EvE is a place for consequences, not a place for cowards using disposable alts. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
None ofthe Above 376	Posted - 2012.12.07 03:43:00 - [13] - Quote Expiration of Bounties after 30-90 days, at which time unused bounties are refunded (minus fees). I think I saw Soniclover saying standard refund was 80% which sounds fine. Expiration needs to be long enough so most people won't just log out for the duration, but within a period that doesn't seem like too long off. No more than 90 I would think. I don't buy CSM Aleks' argument (made elsewhere) that the expiration would sap faith in the system, in fact I would argue that a bounty that never was claimed would do more harm in that respect. People knowing it was my enemy's destruction or your iskies back (minus fees) would actually be a bigger selling point, IMHO. Perma bounties are less desirable for several reasons. I do think they sap faith in the system if they are never redeemed in anyway. They also hang over the now "WANTED" character like a cloud unless they decide its annoying enough to alt-kill themselves enough to get rid of it. I think there needs to be hope that they can beat the bounty. PvP should go both ways. EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
rodyas Tie Fighters Inc 894	Posted - 2012.12.07 07:17:00 - [14] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Seleene wrote: Instead of having a "LIKE" button, I just want to be able to place bounties on people through the forums. Given the large and increasing number of people who are apparently independently making this suggestion, I propose that you add this feature to the "GIT 'ER DONE" list That could be fun, or annoying. You are reported to the person you bountied, so they could just place an equal amount on your head or more. But then you make alts to place bounties on the trolls, then if that caught on, most people would only talk with alts on the forums, since the other people were escaping the bounty game. I'm not shitposting.
rodyas Tie Fighters Inc 894	Posted - 2012.12.07 07:20:00 - [15] - Quote Malcanis wrote: WheatGrass wrote: Placing a bounty on a non-criminal should be a criminal offense -resulting in a flagged status and security level reduction for the duration of the bounty. The "WANTED" logo space on character profiles should be reserved for use by Concord. For bounties, bounty hunters could consult the bounty tools. So you want me to have a GCC for putting a bounty on the guy who just stole all our corp's assets? Why? Well if he was a good thief, he will have more money then you do. I wouldn't be so quick to **** him off by placing a bounty on his head. Of course you live in 0.0 most likely so that wouldn't matter, not so sure where a corp thief would live at though. I'm not shitposting.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5390	Posted - 2012.12.07 07:44:00 - [16] - Quote Rhavas wrote: Future feature - make bounties of different types and have some of those types actionable without CONCORD protection in Highsec. There's no possible way that this could go horribly wrong! MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5390	Posted - 2012.12.07 07:45:00 - [17] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: I would like to see bounties on applicable by characters over 5 mill SP EvE is a place for consequences, not a place for cowards using disposable alts. But what about all these new players that we're constantly being told are instantly griefed as soon as they log in? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Frying Doom Zat's Affiliated Traders 965	Posted - 2012.12.07 10:21:00 - [18] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Frying Doom wrote: I would like to see bounties on applicable by characters over 5 mill SP EvE is a place for consequences, not a place for cowards using disposable alts. But what about all these new players that we're constantly being told are instantly griefed as soon as they log in? Well maybe anything below a certain point should not be able to take part in the bounty system. 5 mill SP for instance, EvEs point where you are counted as a citisen and able to show in statistics. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1103	Posted - 2012.12.07 12:32:00 - [19] - Quote The idea of setting arbitrary SP limits on certain aspects of the game is an uncomfortable precedent to set. If you need 5m SP to place or receive bounties, what's next? 7m before you can canflip? 10m before you can enter lowsec? Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 658	Posted - 2012.12.07 13:03:00 - [20] - Quote Especially when the reason for such a change is as spurious as "rarrrr alt cowards!!!1" "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5392	Posted - 2012.12.07 13:44:00 - [21] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: Malcanis wrote: Frying Doom wrote: I would like to see bounties on applicable by characters over 5 mill SP EvE is a place for consequences, not a place for cowards using disposable alts. But what about all these new players that we're constantly being told are instantly griefed as soon as they log in? Well maybe anything below a certain point should not be able to take part in the bounty system. 5 mill SP for instance, EvEs point where you are counted as a citisen and able to show in statistics. I find your lack of faith in our new players disturbing. I oppose this regressive policy of assigning second-class citizen status to low-SP players. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Wolf TheFallen Deafening Silence Syndiate In Umbra Mortis 0	Posted - 2012.12.07 15:10:00 - [22] - Quote Seleene wrote: Instead of having a "LIKE" button, I just want to be able to place bounties on people through the forums. Now that is awsome, To hell with "Like" or "Thumbs up"... Eve gets a Bounty Button
Sizeof Void Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 302	Posted - 2012.12.08 07:29:00 - [23] - Quote My feedback: 1. Bounties should only be placed on players with negative sec status. 2. A bounty should come with a persistent Suspect flag, making it legal to shoot players with bounties in high sec. 3. Outlaws (sec status -5.0 or lower) with a bounty should be legal to pod in high and low sec, without incurring a sec status penalty. 4. No bounties on new players under, say, a month old. Before you troll - yeah, I think life should be much harder for the -5 (and lower) players. After all, aren't the -10 outlaws among the best and most elite PVPers in the game? The high sec carebears need some (major) handicap, in order to compete.
Lolmer Yahoo Inc Caffeine Nicotine and Hate 72	Posted - 2012.12.08 18:54:00 - [24] - Quote Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Elzon1 wrote: When will we be able to place bounties on individual objects (SBU's, IHUB's, POS's, etc.)? From the Retribution patch notes: Quote: Bounty is now claimed on anything that generates a Kill Report. This includes, ships, pods and structures. Full here: http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp That's not his question, or at least how I understand it. Right now we can place bounties on individual people we want punished, or a group (corp) or larger group (alliance), but what if, say, we want a specific POS removed because it's annoying us? Or a POCO has a high tax on it and we'd like someone else to remove it, but don't want to go directly hire a merc corp. Bounties! Get enough smaller groups together annoyed about a specific item (e.g. that high-tax POCO) with bounties and ideally and eventually "someone" would "take care of it" for you.
Grey Stormshadow Fistful of Finns Nulli Secunda 1483	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:23:00 - [25] - Quote Fix the bounty hunting by limiting kill right activation to corporation/fleet instead of being free for all. Get
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5406	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:59:00 - [26] - Quote Sizeof Void wrote: My feedback: 1. Bounties should only be placed on players with negative sec status. 2. A bounty should come with a persistent Suspect flag, making it legal to shoot players with bounties in high sec. 3. Outlaws (sec status -5.0 or lower) with a bounty should be legal to pod in high and low sec, without incurring a sec status penalty. 4. No bounties on new players under, say, a month old. Before you troll - yeah, I think life should be much harder for the -5 (and lower) players. After all, aren't the -10 outlaws among the best and most elite PVPers in the game? The high sec carebears need some (major) handicap, in order to compete. So if i repeatedly suicide gank you, scam you, bump you, steal your cans, salvage your wrecks, steal from your corp, awox your ships over and over and over you should have no recourse as long as I keep my sec above 0? ( MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 823	Posted - 2012.12.10 23:39:00 - [27] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Sizeof Void wrote: My feedback: 1. Bounties should only be placed on players with negative sec status. 2. A bounty should come with a persistent Suspect flag, making it legal to shoot players with bounties in high sec. 3. Outlaws (sec status -5.0 or lower) with a bounty should be legal to pod in high and low sec, without incurring a sec status penalty. 4. No bounties on new players under, say, a month old. Before you troll - yeah, I think life should be much harder for the -5 (and lower) players. After all, aren't the -10 outlaws among the best and most elite PVPers in the game? The high sec carebears need some (major) handicap, in order to compete. So if i repeatedly suicide gank you, scam you, bump you, steal your cans, salvage your wrecks, steal from your corp, awox your ships over and over and over you should have no recourse as long as I keep my sec above 0? ( pwned "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com


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