What is the main argument against letting these ships warp while cloaked? Would it be such a big deal? :/

ccp cant do anything on this matter. its the eve universe physics that dont allow such huge masses to warp cloaked

ccp cant do anything on this matter. its the eve universe physics that dont allow such huge masses to warp cloaked

Let's start with arguments FOR it. I have never heard any. "Because I want my B/O to warp cloaked" is not an argument. I want my Abso to deal 2000 DPS, so what?

Because it costs 700 million isk and since the tech 3 ''jack-of-all-trades'' ships can warp around the place cloaked then surely a specialist covert ops ship should be able to?

yes they can - provided you gimp your combat effectiveness by usng a mediocre in combat subsystem on it.

Black ops dont have to do that hence should not be allowed to warp cloaked.

And before you carry on qqing about it show me any current ship that can warp cloaked and have anything like the combat potential of a black ops.

Let's start with arguments FOR it. I have never heard any. "Because I want my B/O to warp cloaked" is not an argument. I want my Abso to deal 2000 DPS, so what?

1. So you can keep up with every other ship in the black ops gang, instead of having a several hundred million isk jump portal.

2. So you can get rid of the cloaked velocity bonus, and give them a combat bonus instead so they can be used in combat, instead of having a several hundred million isk jump portal.

3. Let's hear some ACTUAL arguments against it, aside from "giving everything a cov ops cloak is lazy balancing"

Because it costs 700 million isk and since the tech 3 ''jack-of-all-trades'' ships can warp around the place cloaked then surely a specialist covert ops ship should be able to?

Not to mention it's a pain when you warp the BOps on grid and it uncloaks half your gang... Even when you take great care with this it happends sometimes.

The BOps does have combat bonuses if you look at them, but they're not very easy to keep alive unless you can bring ECM to keep them safe, which seems stupid that you have to bring one thing to use the other with such a ship.

I agree that replacing the cloaked velocity with a cov ops cloak would be worth it. Would actually move slower with the cov ops cloak actually, and make the ship a proper cloaky like its intended use would suggest.

Not much of a surprise in warping a BOps on grid either, you can see them exit warp and have time to gtfo unless already tackled. Making it a MUST to covdrop it in their face seems to limit the usefulness of the ship greatly.

What is the main argument against letting these ships warp while cloaked? Would it be such a big deal? :/

Because it costs 700 million isk and since the tech 3 ''jack-of-all-trades'' ships can warp around the place cloaked then surely a specialist covert ops ship should be able to?

yes they can - provided you gimp your combat effectiveness by usng a mediocre in combat subsystem on it.

Black ops dont have to do that hence should not be allowed to warp cloaked.

And before you carry on qqing about it show me any current ship that can warp cloaked and have anything like the combat potential of a black ops.

Because it costs 700 million isk and since the tech 3 ''jack-of-all-trades'' ships can warp around the place cloaked then surely a specialist covert ops ship should be able to?

You would see a few people rolling idiotic levels of BLOPs gangs around ganking people (my vote: Shadow Cartel). But they do this anyway with cloaky Proteuses which forego the 700DPS for a 120K buffer tank, and then just hop in gangs via Titan bridge (ie; Shadow Cartel) or the old fashioned way of warping. It is not like having a BLOPs flying cloaked would be the only way you would be able to get about the place ganking people.