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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:42:00 -
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when i read post on this forum i see alot of smack from the suppose best pvp corps in eve. most is bull**** but there is also some truth.. its a fact that atuk, shinra supremacy has invaded Xetic space has taken stn killed alot of miners thats all tru.. but Xetic is taken stn back it goes like this 50% of the time the stn is in atuk/shinra/supremacy hands and 50% of the time is in Xetic hands..and just a reminder most of xetic is peeps that mines/trades agent runners etc..but they are still fighting eve`s "greatest pvp corps" offcourse xetic lose some ships and you prop Read it in this forum that the "greatest pvp corps" has just killed 3 Xetic bs fitted with miner 2.. good job atuk/shinra/supremacy you guys are truly good pvp`ers.. you are the best.. aint it strange that eveŠs "greatest pvp corps" all are pounding xetix. How come those bad ass pvp corps are targeting a peacefull alliance with alot of miners.. hmm a thought here, maybe is because they are to affraid to hit ships fitted with guns and not mining equipment..just my thought could be wrong... 2 days ago E-R and Black lance declared war against Atuk... in this 2 day war Atuk has preatty much got there asses kick, when we could find them that is most of the times they are loggin or hiding.. just yesteday we engage in a fight only using frigs against a fleet that outnumbered us, E-R and black lance lost 4 frigs but killed a ferox and geddon..they had us still outnumbered but what did atuk do they log off.. but still i bow my head to the "greatest pvp corps in eve"
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:45:00 -
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Ok
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:46:00 -
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Perhaps its because Xetic asked, we delivered ? End of story.
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nemtrex
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: nemtrex on 01/05/2005 07:48:10
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:48:00 -
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1. Paragraphs
2. Use main
3. Stop whining
4. Go here to relieve some stress, brother.
www.hadean.org
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.05.01 07:55:00 -
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i hate that website.
www.liquidgeneration.com
or
http://www.newgrounds.com/collections/saladfingers.html
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:06:00 -
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your an alt, your a *****, everything u say has no credentials because of the 1st 2.
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:07:00 -
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lol im not an alt lunas Feelgood member of E-R
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:09:00 -
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um wow? -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:15:00 -
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Hehe, Saladfingers rocks 
Sani Sabik. |

fugazii
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood lol im not an alt lunas Feelgood member of E-R
o ok, sry then. well the hatred for xetic stems from ca, theres no problem w/them fighting xetic because theyre a 0.0 alliance therefor they agree'd to have war by living out there. they arent top pvp corps, top forum ***** smacker, yes. tho dont get me wrong, theyre good pvp'rs, but top no.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: fugaziips, top forum ***** smacker, yes.[/quote
Speaking of which log on and help us take the station dude.
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Reite
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Posted - 2005.05.01 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood when i read post on this forum i see alot of smack from the suppose best pvp corps in eve. most is bull**** but there is also some truth.. its a fact that atuk, shinra supremacy has invaded Xetic space has taken stn killed alot of miners thats all tru.. but Xetic is taken stn back it goes like this 50% of the time the stn is in atuk/shinra/supremacy hands and 50% of the time is in Xetic hands..and just a reminder most of xetic is peeps that mines/trades agent runners etc..but they are still fighting eve`s "greatest pvp corps" offcourse xetic lose some ships and you prop Read it in this forum that the "greatest pvp corps" has just killed 3 Xetic bs fitted with miner 2.. good job atuk/shinra/supremacy you guys are truly good pvp`ers.. you are the best.. aint it strange that eveŠs "greatest pvp corps" all are pounding xetix. How come those bad ass pvp corps are targeting a peacefull alliance with alot of miners.. hmm a thought here, maybe is because they are to affraid to hit ships fitted with guns and not mining equipment..just my thought could be wrong... 2 days ago E-R and Black lance declared war against Atuk... in this 2 day war Atuk has preatty much got there asses kick, when we could find them that is most of the times they are loggin or hiding.. just yesteday we engage in a fight only using frigs against a fleet that outnumbered us, E-R and black lance lost 4 frigs but killed a ferox and geddon..they had us still outnumbered but what did atuk do they log off.. but still i bow my head to the "greatest pvp corps in eve"
Ok, you obviosly got NO clue at all.
1. Xetic attacked us first. 2. Afraid to fight ppl with guns blablabla? ATUK was participating in the curse war almost the whole time, and i wouldnt call curse harmless. I was in SE at that time, but i remember ATUK always fighting curse. What did xetic do then? NOTHING, i can remember like 1 or 2 times during the whole war that xetic gathered a fleet to help us against curse. 3. If you cant handle some smack, get off the forums
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Reite Ok, you obviosly got NO clue at all.
1. Xetic attacked us first. 2. Afraid to fight ppl with guns blablabla? ATUK was participating in the curse war almost the whole time, and i wouldnt call curse harmless. I was in SE at that time, but i remember ATUK always fighting curse. What did xetic do then? NOTHING, i can remember like 1 or 2 times during the whole war that xetic gathered a fleet to help us against curse. 3. If you cant handle some smack, get off the forums
I must protest! I can remember like 1 or 2 times that Stain helped us attack the CA russians, and then 1 or 2 times ATUK helped out (one was the killing blow at the end of the war). Otherwise everyone had this horrible and weird obsession for HLW. Skirmishing here, skirmishing there, but accomplishing little.
TC was member of XF for the duration of the CA war. We didn't join the blobs cause they were suicide to fight in, as well as rather similar to a hen-house many times. So we went out and killed stuff instead. --
If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |

Karrimdra
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:14:00 -
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people underestimate frigates :(
From nothing to something in just one corp! |

Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:20:00 -
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You are right xf did absolutely nothing during the ca war. Are nbuts dude, myself as well as lunas and many others i could name made raids into detroid and wicked creek on a regular basis, just cause we didnt join the uber blobs in hed to go lose our ships in lag fests doesnt mean we didnt kill ****. I have a full inbox of kill mails to prove this to you. Yes xf did actually have pvp pilots during the ca war, we just didnt come on the forums and smack talk and flame all day we were out there killing them.
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Br0dY
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:27:00 -
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Ok, now from what I've managed to read off our kill system I see Lunas, that u were ganking not fighting. Now while granted those are all proper kills and all that, don't mistake it for anything else but a gank. Ganks happen, empire is allways a pain to navigate with wars as u never know what's gonna hit u where. But trust me Lunas... your time will come and we'll be there to clip your wings. ------------------------------------------------
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:43:00 -
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OMG, someone annoyed? :) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.05.01 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 01/05/2005 13:51:22 Edited by: Tobiaz on 01/05/2005 10:08:33
Dude instead of bragging how you fought ATUK and according to your version won, perhaps you and your oh so brave buddies should have gotten into your battleships and went to 0.0 to try to stop ATUK, Shinra and MASS from taking practically all stations in Impass and Feytabolis from Xetic.
Because THAT's where 90% of ATUK was yesterday, they were taking stations and we encountered practically NO resistance. Only at the end there was a small fleet retaking the Z-N station, but when we send a pretty equal fleet to fight them guess what: THEY safespotted.
So far you've only ganked only a few lone ATUK pilots and had one decent small engagement and one nice 1 vs. 1 (Crow vs. Raptor)
If Xetic ceases to exist in 0.0 more ATUK pilots will come back to empire and then we'll see if you're still got something to brag about.
Also I suppose you are referring to the encounter in Kor-Azor which you supposedly won?
I don't know what exactly happened but this is what I get from the killmails:
ATUK side (collected from the killmails on the 'frigates' ATUK killed)
Name: Gismork (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.4 Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Scorpion Weapon: Dragon F
Name: Fire Hawk Security Status: -1.7 Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Deimos Weapon: Unknown
Name: Akan Security Status: -0.8 Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Sacrilege Weapon: Unknown
Victim: BarataS Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Armageddon System: Kor-Azor Prime
Name: Lord Morkoth (<- on the killmail, no idea who this is) Security Status: 3.5 Corporation: Storm Guard Elite Ship: Unknown Weapon: Unknown
Name: Gismork (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.4 Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Scorpion Weapon: Dragon F
Added because of lazy killmail posting (OMG ATUK sucks!!!):
Victim: meffi Corporation: Arcane Technologies Ship: Ferox
E-R & Black Lance Collected from our kills and who was on BarataS' killmail.
Name: Joram McRory (laid the final blow) Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: Euphoria Released Ship: Harpy Weapon: 150mm Railgun II
Name: Gazmus Security Status: 0.7 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Harpy Weapon: Unknown
Name: FoxHunt Security Status: 1.5 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Crow Weapon: Unknown
Name: Amras Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Rifter Weapon: Unknown
Name: Cmdr Patrick Security Status: -1.8 Corporation: Euphoria Released Ship: Hawk Weapon: Unknown
Name: Aegir Anshalar Security Status: 3.1 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Vengeance Weapon: Unknown
Name: dj lightning Security Status: 4.9 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Ishkur Weapon: Unknown
Name: omni eye Security Status: 3.0 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Vengeance Weapon: Unknown
Name: Nyxus Security Status: 0.0 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Harpy Weapon: Unknown
Name: Serend Security Status: 1.4 Corporation: Black Lance Ship: Enyo Weapon: Unknown
Name: Cartiff Security Status: 0.0 Corporation: Euphoria Released Ship: Crow Weapon: Unknown
Name: Zarkiel Corporation: Euphoria Released Ship: Rifter
System: Kor-Azor Prime
ATUK losses: 1 Geddon (I can't find your mystery Ferox, not on our losses, nor on the killmails of those who ATUK killed, mysterious isn't it? Also I don't think any of the FW fly Ferox, so I would be very interested in the name...
E-R Black Lance losses: 2x Vengeance, 1x Enyo, 1x Harpy, 1x Ishkur, 1x Crow, 1x Rifter
Conclusion 1: It is E-R & Black Lance, not ATUK that got they asses pretty much handed to them, those Ass frigs are probably worth a lot more then that Geddon. Also the FW still had a lot of other capital ships, which I guess could not have fled against so many ships unless it was the other side that left the battlefield.
EDIT: well apearently the outcome was a bit more equal. I don't know who fled the field at the end though, but I'm guessing the remaining Ass frigs because the 2 Scorps that they failed to kill (yeah great thinking: go after the Geddon...)
Conclusion 2: I'd say it was a fairly even fight. While not perhaps in numbers (in which you outnumbered ATUK instead of the other way round as you claimed), but quite even in fire power. When you said you fought them with only frigs, you conveniently forgot to mention 8 of them were assault frigates with a load of T2 stuff on them.
Also you were fighting ATUK's French Wing, which consists of only a small part of ATUK and do atm most of the empire fighting and as such aren't likely to really outnumber anyone in any small engagement.
Conclusion 3: You're full of **** and should try to keep your epeen in your pants the next time.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.05.01 10:14:00 -
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just so you know. i do miss the great fleet battles against pvp alliances such as ca. but in these times we have set our selves other tasks to complete. erradication of xetic is one of them, if we have to kill miners then we will do. you are all targets of war and we be treat that way.
you think 0.0 is for peaceful people? get real STAN
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.05.01 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 01/05/2005 10:27:02
P.S
In response why PvP corps are pounding a carebear allaince with only miners:
- In 0.0 there is no room for alliances consisting of 'only miners'. If you can't/won't fight for your spot in 0.0, you have no right to profit from it.
- Even though they lack PvP experience, they have two things on Five: they can utterly outnumber us, even if they split they blobs up in smaller ones and they are much, much richer.
- For a carebear alliance they have a too big mouth, trying to turn the entire south into one happy carebear nation with Xetic on the helm, telling other who they can attack and who not.
Xetic should be thankfull for Five annihilating their alliance, which is many many months past its expiration date anyway. We're forcing evolution on them: survival of the fittest or the ones with a will to fight. The rest is forced to go back sucking scor in empire instead of 0.0 and their riches.
EDIT: well it seems Stan seemed to manage to summarise it into one sentence :P
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Patrick on 01/05/2005 11:37:45 www.eve-kills.com/?corp=Euphoria%20Released ferrox pilot meffi. EDIT-hardly any of your pilots post there losses on your board. Not saying e-r post loses 100% of the time but we don't accuse you of making up kills
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siim
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:38:00 -
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if you post kills, say that we fight only weak ppl. then no wonder u get flamed smartass
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:43:00 -
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Man sorry for confusing you into thinking we were speaking to you.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Patrick Man sorry for confusing you into thinking we were speaking to you.

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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.05.01 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 01/05/2005 13:56:52
Originally by: Cmdr Patrick Edited by: Cmdr Patrick on 01/05/2005 11:37:45 www.eve-kills.com/?corp=Euphoria%20Released ferrox pilot meffi. EDIT-hardly any of your pilots post there losses on your board. Not saying e-r post loses 100% of the time but we don't accuse you of making up kills
Fair enough, he was appearently late with posting, shame on him. It is now on our boards as well, those lazy French 
I fail to see though how this makes ATUK a corp that has a inaccurate killboard or how how this in any way justifies your "hardly any of your pilots post there losses on your board". That is utter crap, and you know it.
The first words on TS after a battle are usually "who got the killmail" and "post them on the killboard". If a single post is missing usually we'll get constant nagging untill it's posted 
ATUK is quite strict in posting ALL killmails whether losses or not and I dare to say the ATUK killboard is still a lot more accurate then eve-kills. If you're missing killmails, just post one of the directors of ATUK and it'll get sorted right away.
Still, one more Ferox on ATUK's side doesn't really change the powerbalance on who was outnumbering who, nor did it change the outcome that much.
As far as I can see this was just pretty much an equal confrontation which ended in pretty equal losses. How does this justify comments like your initial post is beyond me.
Quote: in this 2 day war Atuk has preatty much got there asses kick, when we could find them that is most of the times they are loggin or hiding.. just yesteday we engage in a fight only using frigs against a fleet that outnumbered us, E-R and black lance lost 4 frigs but killed a ferox and geddon..they had us still outnumbered but what did atuk do they log off..
Yeah a 300+ corp losing an few odd ships in 2 days really qualifies as 'getting your ass kicked'. FYI we lose more ships to NPCs then to nuisances like this.
Also when you said you lost 4 'frigs', you make it conveniently sound like you're some bad ass Mercenary Frigates version, while you actually lost 1 'frig' 1 interceptor and 5 ASSAULT frigs.
I guess you were just so thrilled on getting some kills on ATUK that you just HAD to whip out your epeen and put it on the forums telling it was longer then ATUK's and for all to admire it.
Killboards and killmails are so ruining this game 
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.05.01 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Silvitni on 01/05/2005 14:04:23
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Br0dy wrote Ok, now from what I've managed to read off our kill system I see Lunas, that u were ganking not fighting. Now while granted those are all proper kills and all that, don't mistake it for anything else but a gank. Ganks happen, empire is allways a pain to navigate with wars as u never know what's gonna hit u where. But trust me Lunas... your time will come and we'll be there to clip your wings.
Pfifft Br0dy
DonŠt hope you will be logging this time, when you will come to clip our wings 
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Joram McRory
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Posted - 2005.05.01 14:19:00 -
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If you look in this thread :http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176201&page=5
You will see cartif & my commentary on the fights last night & you will also see that we agree that both sides lost a lot of ships and had a lot of fun.
For complete accuracy regarding the 5 AFs you mention above, one was mine and was lost a lot later as I docked to log, so Lunas' 4 frig losses was accrate. Also you will see that we describe our fleet as "E-R/Lance were in mostly frigs/ints/AF's against ATUK's 2bs 1bc 2hac lots of frigs". We were completley open about the make-up of our fleet & did not try to infer T1 Frigs only.
One last point - Euphoria Released are not Xetic, never have been and never will be. Yes we sometimes side with Xetic when picking Corps to declare on, but that is only because a lot of us are ex Xetic and have friends there still.
Joram McRory Euphoria Released
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.05.01 14:33:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Tobiaz on 01/05/2005 13:56:52
Originally by: Cmdr PatrickEdited by: Cmdr Patrick on 01/05/2005 11:37:45 www.eve-kills.com/?corp=Euphoria%20Released ferrox pilot meffi. EDIT-hardly any of your pilots post there losses on your board. Not saying e-r post loses 100% of the time but we don't accuse you of making up killsRolling Eyes
Fair enough, he was appearently late with posting, shame on him. It is now on our boards as well, those lazy French Razz
I fail to see though how this makes ATUK a corp that has a inaccurate killboard or how how this in any way justifies your "hardly any of your pilots post there losses on your board". That is utter crap, and you know it.
The first words on TS after a battle are usually "who got the killmail" and "post them on the killboard". If a single post is missing usually we'll get constant nagging untill it's posted Smile
ATUK is quite strict in posting ALL killmails whether losses or not and I dare to say the ATUK killboard is still a lot more accurate then eve-kills. If you're missing killmails, just post one of the directors of ATUK and it'll get sorted right away.
Still, one more Ferox on ATUK's side doesn't really change the powerbalance on who was outnumbering who, nor did it change the outcome that much.
As far as I can see this was just pretty much an equal confrontation which ended in pretty equal losses. How does this justify comments like your initial post is beyond me.
I also added that we were not perfect either, maybe you should read full sentances before smacking.I also only wanted to prove the ferrox so you wouldn't accuse us of it being a "phantom kill".
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Terramor
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Posted - 2005.05.01 14:55:00 -
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I am an FA alt <jumps in flame proof armor> <open-close door of stupidity proof bunker> pray for mercy to the gods of war...
Many players have been disapointed by the lack of an official kill board. It is an important tool of any pvp game. In most games (daoc, wow) a kill generates standing or some sort of score system resulting in getting a rank (cool!) and sometimes special goodies (even more cool!). It is really missing in this game, but hopefully CCP will listen to us and give it to the players, with enough whining on our part that is!
Now about Atuk and their hordlings, you just need to take a look in the forum, these guys are VERY present and VERY vocal. Is it bad??? I don't think so, it adds some RP aspect missing so badly in this game. They are the vilains of EVE, not because the blowp ships and gank right and left but just because of their PR approach. How can you not want to shot at these arrogant punks?
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