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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 04:06:00 -
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Ok reading through this thread i've learned some interesting things,
I did not know CLS started the war with the5..the situation as i see it is: CLS starts war between XF and the5, our coalition delcares war on XF, CLS announces to us that they plan to leave XF and they wish to come to some sort of agreement regarding territorybelonging to the whole of XF, we declined, they then hammer out a deal with the5 splitting XF territory in 2 between themselves and the5...where do XF live now exactly....?
i can see XF have been done an major injustice here by what seems to be the highest echelons of the XF command...our fight is with CLS, DDC and anyone that supports them either through logistics or fighters
we intend to claim the Feythabolis region for our coalition and we are fighting fiercly over it...we've had our victorys and our defeats but the war still goes on as strong as ever
now to some of the comments earlier regarding "missing assets" ...please dont take this as flame because it is not it is fact....i cannot prove whether CLS robbed XF or not but just a few days ago CLS were boasting that we could not drive them out because them had plenty money and assets.....in my experience PVP doesnt last long with our industrial backing you up or some sort of income at least and i do believe they have nowhere to mine at the moment and havent done for at least a month maybe two.....maybe even longer than that...coincidence perhaps...to quote
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cyvok is/was xf v.pres. cordy was pres and has alts in holding. last i heard on TS confirmed that all the stations in impass/feyth where cleaned out by someone
...you decide..
we are also willing to except any XF member be it 1 person, 10 people or the whole corp into our own who wishes fight against CLS and co, a few of you it seems are truly feeling the knife in your back and if you wish to act on it we are ready to listen
...our interest is the Feythabolis region not taking XF down....if you are not supporting CLS maybe something can be arranged for you to avoid further hostilities with us.if youre happy with the current situation then we will meet on the battlefield.....but that is not for me to decide
as to one comment i saw earlier regarding SE
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first stain with its tail between its legs
Stain did not go running with its tail between its legs...over half the alliance upped in a mass exodus and went there seperate way each for their own reasons ...and stain after just having the core of the most active, experienced and longstanding corps leave...consolidated
and our coalition is all Ex-SE wanting some place to call ours..We are strong, confident and organised (minus a few hiccups) and we'll fight to the end....our reputations are at stake here and we wont back down until we have what we want
CYVOK said and i quote "we can handle you" ...i guess the next little while will surely be a test of that
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Danari
MASS/Species/IGS/Redemption: You're cooked. And don't think that when you leave our space we're done with you kids.
now thats the attitude were looking for....but let your guns do the talking
Originally by: Ramius Monteagne
CLS, DDC and a number of other corps have been trying to get additional support to hold Xetic space, but have to put up with insane prices of equipment offered on the markets by other Xetic member.
this is a genuine question.....if you could not get enough support then then where are you getting it from now?
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Chib: you don't have a clue do you. Your "insightful" comments are based on pure guesswork and complete lack of information
CLS does have wealth, it's only 20% PVP... but that 20% is as big as you are.
Most of what i said is taken from how i percieve this situation and from what ive seen both on the battlefield and this forum ...im just voicing my opinion it doesnt mean you have to agree
p.s loved the history thing FANTASTIC!
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 04:30:00 -
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its fine to say that theyre breaking out for themselves but theyre trying to claim HALF of xetic space and leaving whats left to the5......seems like backstabbing to me
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 04:47:00 -
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ok to answer you on some of your statements cyvok from what i know..
Originally by: cyvok
can't understand why you have to post crap like this to bend others to your will, how far you guys have fallen
an enemy of your enemy is your friend right?
Originally by: cyvok
The the final straw, they talked **** to -V- and told them how they were going to be turned to dust. My respect for you guys died with that wonderful piece of smack.
we asked -V- to stop attacking the Reds stations temporarily not to stop attacking the reds
Originally by: cyvok
2 days later he said they wanted to make some sort or agreement so MASS could go attack RA and PA. Once again they wanted the refinery. nope.
ive heard nothing about us attacking either the reds or phoenix in fact until you guys pulled this little stunt we've been quite friendly with the Reds...are they fighting with you now....? we've no plans as far as im aware of attacking anyone until feythabolis is secured
Originally by: cyvok
*scarsim
And, just incase someone I know was involved. I will complete my apperant journey to the dark side and say, GOOD! It was their own fault for giving someone access, its part of the game right? (theft is BS and I would never do such a thing) /sarcasim
theft is wrong whichever way you look at it and condoning it with or without sarcasm may cause you some problems me thinks
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Primer Xenius
Edited by: Primer Xenius on 02/05/2005 04:56:24
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on to what CLS and DDC has done to the rest of Xetic is damn sad. When our groups left stain for our individual reasons we could of just as well did what you are doing but we decided not too and make our own way.
You on the other hand are playing on the weakness of the remaining Xetic corps screwing them over.
* If CLS left with the their friends, Feyt and impass would of fallen right away. XETIC would not have owned it anyhow. At least the new neighbors will not war XETIC.
* Your entire presence in this thread is purely for your own gain. 3 days ago you couldn't give a rat's ass about XETIC, I doubt you care now. You simply want XETIC to assist you in Feyt.
XETIC needs to regroup, pull their guys out of empire and dig in.
3 days ago we knew CLS were leaving XF 1 week ago we knew theyre plans to leave ...did you? seems like most of u didnt
our presence in this thread is to purely state that we also lay claim to Feythabolis region, if some XF corps wish to join the fight and benefit from it when the dust settles then great and if they dont then GL to em ...we have no ill feeling toward xetic we just want feyth and we'll fight anyone who stands in our way
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: icarus starkiller
Thank you for that. I am most overjoyed to see someone take down that stabbed out logger.
I'll agree that you cannot put the bold and tact in the same sentance but we've won more fights than lost under his command....he is a fleet combat genius....he just shouldnt be allowed to talk to strangers
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: FalloutBoy
on to what CLS and DDC has done to the rest of Xetic is damn sad. When our groups left stain for our individual reasons we could of just as well did what you are doing but we decided not too and make our own way.
You on the other hand are playing on the weakness of the remaining Xetic corps screwing them over.
The only difference between what all the ex SE corps did and what CLS and DDC did is that xetic was in a war and you were not. You both "screwed over" the people who remained in your alliance. Stain is but a shadow of its former self, much as xetic is now, yet you try to claim the moral highground over these guys? CLS has something like 5-10x your members, and I;m sure the VAST majority of them were quite unhappy. Remember that [b]EVE IS A GAME[b/]. Why would you play a game where you aren't having as much fun as you possibly could? I for one know I'd have more fun being in an alliance with m8s that I know I can count on and would support me in any situation, pvp/assets/isk/whatever, rather than an alliance where I do all the work with no support.
the mass exodus from stain is similar to this but not the same from one perspective alone ..stain while although a shadow of its former self is still capable of defending itself and we did not turn round to them and say " right were leaving we'll have catch, -V- can have Curse and stain can be to quote "contested"
we still kill stains enemys as our own ....and also we do not go back to stain space to refit and regroup ..stain have asked us to keep the conflict our of their space and we have only used it for the few of us needing to travel every now and again, alot of us are travelling through impass in hope of encountering some XF .....the only time you guys fight us is if u heavily outnumber and outgun us....earlier today before we lost that engagement myself bold and prad were 3 against 28 and we still attempted to kill CLS fleet in ub5 ........i challenge you to do the same next time the ratio is reversed
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Posted - 2005.05.02 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Chib on 02/05/2005 07:06:43
Originally by: CYVOK
Originally by: Chib
earlier today before we lost that engagement myself bold and prad were 3 against 28 and we still attempted to kill CLS fleet in ub5 ........i challenge you to do the same next time the ratio is reversed
I will toss some respect your way for that, granted it was warp in at 111K snip while alining to gate and warp out as soon as your targeted, but still, you did do it.
And I may be wrong but the final battle took place numbers were about even, we may have had a couple more but it was a rather fair fight.
I also have to contest that we have never tried the same thing. Their was a battle where 16 of you were attacking the station and crohnx had our gang of about 8 warping in and sniping 1 and the warping back out. Not quite 3 vs 28 but still happened.
just an FYI i stayed long enough on one of those encounters to hit 53% structure but yes it was a case of warp in and warp out otherwise we'd be insta ganked and not to take the victory from you because victory is victory whatever happens, there was a momentary lapse in communication which caused it but then ...isnt that how they all happen 
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.05.02 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Chib on 02/05/2005 08:19:47
i agree with many of the things blackdog said..your own problems aside when we were in stain it was frustrating when we were camping on the catch corridor and everytime the gate went active it was another XF allied with everyone pilot .....these guys were doin there thing getting rich while we kept the corridor safe from the rare bandit they were not napped with at the time.....furthermore when the XF / CA war broke out so few XF actually showed up to fight it that stain became more or less your body guards and we never recieved a single thing from you in return....credit where credits most that showed were CLS / ASCN corps but still so few ....and the same happened again within stain alot prior to our departure...too many people complained they couldnt mine but werent prepared to go out and clear the hostiles out......this in the end was not our reason for leaving but im sure it factored in somewhere
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