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Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 16:53:00 - [121] OMG is it a bird, is it a plane. No i think it might be, yes it might be, It is, Its Celts credibility flying out the window
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.05.03 16:54:00 - [122] While we are talking about you 'anti-pirate' alliance. euphoria released's corp discription reads: " NBSI - Not Blue, Shoot It". Thought you guys didnt kill neutrals?
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.05.03 16:55:00 - [123] Originally by: Mikelio Raijan Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 03/05/2005 16:55:17 Ok at the time (sunday) CELTS members were free to do as they pleased during the cease fire in which we withdrew from Vale, Members were told that they were not allowed to pirate in the north and Dave took that literally and went down south to do it these acts taking place over 20 jumps from OBE (im in ls-jep atm so i cant check distance). I cannot justify his actions for him and will speak to a director about possible action/s. Edit: seems the impatient ppl flame while im writing posts quit the spamming 0_o lol Please remember that that was Sunday and we officially stated that we condemn pirating yesterday, i have talked to him and have have his word that he will not partake in pirating nor has he done such during our current corp stance change towards pirating. And so i will not apologise on behalf of him but will leave the floor open to him when he comes back online (ill get him to make a statement promising that he will no longer pirate etc). Hope this helps abit! Please lets keep this calm and friendly and ill try to answer more till a director/ceo comes online. I think everyone was calm until that troll from your corp started moralising to GODS. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Mikelio Raijan	Posted - 2005.05.03 16:59:00 - [124] Originally by: pershphanie While we are talking about you 'anti-pirate' alliance. euphoria released's corp discription reads: " NBSI - Not Blue, Shoot It". Thought you guys didnt kill neutrals? Thats the sort of questions i want to see, thx for spotting this ill get right on making sure they have it changed. (getting our forces together yesterday was a very rushed affair and corp descriptions often get missed because ppl dont check their own corp info! we had member of FOE in for a couple of days before i spotted it and whined at mark)
Parity	Posted - 2005.05.03 16:59:00 - [125] I like Dressed girls also...
Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:00:00 - [126] Precisily the point we are making is, Celts cannot on one hand says GODS are pirates and always will be yet on the other hand say Ok Celts did pirate but you can trust us not to anymore. So stop the slander against GODS and we will stop the slander of your coalition.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:01:00 - [127] Originally by: Yolan Precisily the point we are making is, Celts cannot on one hand says GODS are pirates and always will be yet on the other hand say Ok Celts did pirate but you can trust us not to anymore. So stop the slander against GODS and we will stop the slander of your coalition. I second that. Unless you really like seeing me go on nd on and on....... Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Rehen	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:02:00 - [128] Edited by: Rehen on 03/05/2005 17:14:30 Originally by: pershphanie Wow! for an anti-pirate corp you guys sure do gank alot of mining corps in empire. How come they all had miner2's equipt? so let me get this strait. Us killing foe = piracy, but you guys ganking miners in empire = antipirate? lol. how stupid do you think everything is? 2005.05.01 18:40:00 Victim: baseru Corporation: Star Trade Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: Maalna System Security Level: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Dave10 (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Celtic industries Ship Type: Deimos Weapon Type: Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I 2005.05.01 17:37:00 Victim: Kode Corporation: devastation mining inc Destroyed Type: Vexor Solar System: Ranni System Security Level: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: Dave10 (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.3 Corporation: Celtic industries Ship Type: Deimos Weapon Type: Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I 2005.05.01 17:25:00 Victim: TheHobGoblin Corporation: devastation mining inc Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: Ranni System Security Level: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: Dave10 (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.2 Corporation: Celtic industries Ship Type: Deimos Weapon Type: Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I Name: Blood Raiders 2005.05.01 15:38:00 Victim: Scorpio DK Corporation: FireStar Inc Destroyed Type: Dominix Solar System: Chaneya System Security Level: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Dave10 (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.2 Corporation: Celtic industries Ship Type: Deimos Weapon Type: Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I Name: Blood Raiders This is quite easy to answer at the time no celts members have been given orders not to pirate in empire, we had been asked by pa,g,iron not to pirate in the northen 0.0, if they have a problem with us pirating in empire plz convo fowlplay, but at the time with the info and intel given we have yet to be asked not to pirate in empire. But at this time all forms of pirating have ended, and i will be pushing to make sur ethye never retern rehen
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:04:00 - [129] Originally by: Mikelio Raijan Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 03/05/2005 16:56:46 Ok at the time (sunday) CELTS members were free to do as they pleased So your story is it was ok for you to pirate 3 days ago, but for us to kill a hostile 2 weeks ago is moraly irrehencable? yawn. you guys cant BS your way out of everything.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:07:00 - [130] Originally by: Rehen This is quite easy to answer at the time no celts members have been given orders not to pirate in empire, we had been asked by pa,g,iron not to pirate in the northen 0.0, if they have a problem with us pirating in empire plz convo fowlplay, Oh i think i get it. You guys are an anti-pirate alliance who pirates only in empire. makes perfect sense. GG

Rehen	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:07:00 - [131] yes but we hadent made any promisses about it to anybody
Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:09:00 - [132] Originally by: Rehen This is quite easy to answer at the time no celts members have been given orders not to pirate in empire, we had been asked by pa,g,iron not to pirate in the northen 0.0, if they have a problem with us pirating in empire plz convo fowlplay, but at the time with the info and intel given we have yet to be asked not to pirate in empire. so your are only a pirate corp if you kill in 0.0 but hang on when we supposedly shot one of your members it was in empire. Therfore following your logic we did not commit an act of piracy. Confusion reigns in the land of celts.
Liet Traep	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:12:00 - [133] Celts, E-R and Black Lance in one alliance? Pirates might want to find somewhere else to go.....
Mikelio Raijan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:12:00 - [134] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Mikelio Raijan Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 03/05/2005 16:56:46 Ok at the time (sunday) CELTS members were free to do as they pleased So your story is it was ok for you to pirate 3 days ago, but for us to kill a hostile 2 weeks ago is moraly irrehencable? yawn. you guys cant BS your way out of everything. You keep on asking the same quesion you will keep on getting the same answer, at the time he thought it was allowed to pirate in the south, this will not happen now, nor has it happened since the corp stance change, we were anti-pirate before and we will be again. I assume the 'a hostile' you are refering to was a CELTS member can you not understand that we retaliate when attacked? If the corps that Dave attacked wanted to return fire i would not post on the forums complaining about it.
Rehen	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:12:00 - [135] I dont think you have read the original post properly
sjgay	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:14:00 - [136] to think i was mates with you guys . you have broken a agreement with f-e and attacked with a fleet that you did not muster in just five mins which makes us think that you pland to attack us days ago . which is as low as you can get. a real corp of p,v.p,ers would have given notice of there intentions to make war with honor . i have lost all respect for celts. this reminds me of somthing that happend in history at 7:50 am on sunday 7 december 1941 a day of infamy.
Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:15:00 - [137] /me mails celts an eraser so they can rewrite the rules as they go. We know its their favourite hobby
Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:20:00 - [138] Originally by: Mikelio Raijan I assume the 'a hostile' you are refering to was a CELTS member can you not understand that we retaliate when attacked? If the corps that Dave attacked wanted to return fire i would not post on the forums complaining about it[:ugh: . Hang on who is complaining. You were perfectly justified to retailiate when attacked. If I attack any war hostile I expect them to shoot back. Can you not undestand that we retaliate against corps that work with our enemies in this case FoE.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:29:00 - [139] Originally by: Mikelio Raijan Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Mikelio Raijan Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 03/05/2005 16:56:46 Ok at the time (sunday) CELTS members were free to do as they pleased So your story is it was ok for you to pirate 3 days ago, but for us to kill a hostile 2 weeks ago is moraly irrehencable? yawn. you guys cant BS your way out of everything. You keep on asking the same quesion you will keep on getting the same answer, at the time he thought it was allowed to pirate in the south, this will not happen now, nor has it happened since the corp stance change, we were anti-pirate before and we will be again. I assume the 'a hostile' you are refering to was a CELTS member can you not understand that we retaliate when attacked? If the corps that Dave attacked wanted to return fire i would not post on the forums complaining about it. GODS aren't complaining. You are teh guys who brought up the "OMG GODS ARE PIWATES BECOS THEY SHOT US" argument. You guys really need to stop digging, that hole is gettin mighty big. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Mikelio Raijan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:33:00 - [140] Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 03/05/2005 17:36:29 Originally by: Yolan Originally by: Mikelio Raijan I assume the 'a hostile' you are refering to was a CELTS member can you not understand that we retaliate when attacked? If the corps that Dave attacked wanted to return fire i would not post on the forums complaining about it[:ugh: . Hang on who is complaining. You were perfectly justified to retailiate when attacked. If I attack any war hostile I expect them to shoot back. Can you not undestand that we retaliate against corps that work with our enemies in this case FoE. Yup i can understand, but at the time of your attacks on CELTS members we had left FOE, infact the incodent in question happened right after F-E, GODS etc left FOE themselves, i believe we had very very few ppl in 0.0. (and those in 0.0 were leaving as the corp was going to move on) We were not working with FOE however we were using their TS while the corp was getting one set up for itself. EDIT: give me a few mins to look through what has been said in this thread, i have made no claims of 'GODS EBIL PIWATING!!1111' im trying to state the facts as they stand, however im getting tired of this 3 vs 1 thing going on, lol (i post and 3 ppl from the same corp reply)

Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:39:00 - [141] all i can say about the 3 people replying is GODS is a team in everything we do.
SgtYork	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:41:00 - [142] Originally by: pershphanie So your story is it was ok for you to pirate 3 days ago, but for us to kill a hostile 2 weeks ago is moraly irrehencable? yawn. you guys cant BS your way out of everything. I think you are missing the point m8 or just using it to make the point you want. Celts left FOE basically because of problems with F-E. Later F-E left with you guys and some others. Celts had you set to +10 along with all other current and former foe. A GODS pilot attacked one of our haulers. We find out we have been set to -10 by F-E, GODS, aopl and whoever else is flying with you. So Celts decided to retaliate. And we did. The whole point is simply that you attacked us we attacked back...and this thread has nothing to do with us saying we are morally better. It is all simply a result of the GODS pilot attacking one of our own, while you were set to +10.
Balistic Void	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:43:00 - [143] lol @ thread Bad Dave10 bad!!! Now write out "I will not pirate" ONE HUNDRED times (with secure cans above the p3 gate in obe).
Foyle	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:45:00 - [144] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Thermopyle Again efforts are being made to remove that option... but really if all you have is UH YOU USE KILLBOARDS, then you there isn't much we have to do to find moral high ground. Well you use their killboards, ts, space, and fly with foe. But then claim you have nothing to do with them. kinda fishy Would you like to tell them when its dinner time, bed time? when they can pee, ****? OR maybe you would like to pay for the subscription as well? Get off that high horse before someone knocks you off it... Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Yolan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:47:00 - [145] No offence foyle, but this between the corps now in vale, geminate and tribute. Nothing to do with you.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:48:00 - [146] LMAO, No offence, but I am going NO WHERE, I am not a PA bendover! Someone will be leaving, trust me, it is NOT me! Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Mikelio Raijan	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:52:00 - [147] Originally by: pershphanie While we are talking about you 'anti-pirate' alliance. euphoria released's corp discription reads: " NBSI - Not Blue, Shoot It". Thought you guys didnt kill neutrals? Fixed! Have a nice day
sjgay	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:52:00 - [148] rich coming from an aliance leader who never leaves the station
MIGHTYDWC	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:54:00 - [149] First of all, not once in my original post did I ever call GODS "pirates". I simply said I concidered them blowing up my hauler in a 0.3 system "an act of piracy". But like I said seeing as how my overview said GODS was +10, how would I have known you guys had us to -10. Second of all, we didn't leave FOE to do this. The below post is from FE's official statement post, page 6 or 7. Originally by: Ender Hawks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quit whining about Marichek, Foyle! I made the decision and Hupa worked his magic. All F-E leadership is in complete agreement as are over 80% of all former FoE corps who have joined F-E. I dont mind your opinion, you all have one. However, its funny to note that CELTS was the first corp to leave and were praised by yourself and others. F-E decides to leave and we get hailed as cowards and backstabbers. I wont argue why CELTS left as Im sure they will say it was because of internal problems and not the fact they too abandoned FoE. I havnt flamed you once Foyle, but you seem very eager to vent your disgust on the forums and drive a wedge between Xirtam and F-E. Here it goes, I have said many times on TS how I feel about many people and in the same sentence expressed the notion that I would gladly bury any hatchet for the good of F-E!! If you dont/cant understand that then I dont really give a ****. My last and final word on this thread. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If i get the whip for saying how I feel about it then so be it. Celts left FOE due to internal problems. Those problems were we had several members who were going to leave Celts because they were tired of being harrased about "hanging out in the Celts channel", "not going out on ops", "not taking other people out with us on our ops". This harrasment was comming from FE members, who i will not name here. Funny how the majority of the people on TS on the weekends were Celts. Funny how the majority of FE members on the TS server were in their own little channel so happily named "L word Speak, no E word speak", although there were some FE i flew beside on many ops and enjoyed those moments. Just as you said Ender, the reason you left FOE was to save FE, Celts left FOE to save Celts. Anyway's it's done and over with. GL to everyone, and see you in the future, weather it's on my wing or at the end of my gun sights. After all it's a game that we pay to play to have fun right. CHEERS This is why we left. While Celts and a few of the good FE guys were busting our ass figting, the other FE guys were playing L2, and smacking us because we weren't doing things the way FE wanted us to do things. Even Marichek told us on TS that he didn't have a problem with the way we were operating. Apparently BV and some others felt diffrently. Why lose members, good members of your corp to continuous harrasment, when you can rectify the situation and move away from the harrasment. That's what we did. And it's our fault FOE fell apart? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Then there was the "oh how much money did Foyle give you guys to buy BS? You said you couldn't afford them, then all the sudden you guys have BS. WTF????" I never got one penny from Foyle or FOE for my loses. Celts had a pvp fund that replaced my ships and everyone elses. Im tired of trying to explain it. No matter how much flaming and copying and pasting and post and screenshots either side does here, it's not going to make the other side happy or content. What's done is done. The table has been set. Let us see what it serves us. Favorite saying on TS: This "phoon of Doom" is very easy to kill things with. They die very fast. <---JaegerX
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:54:00 - [150] Edited by: pershphanie on 03/05/2005 17:55:11 Originally by: Foyle LMAO, No offence, but I am going NO WHERE, I am not a PA bendover! Someone will be leaving, trust me, it is NOT me! /cr4cks whip Back in your box foyle! You have all ready run 2 alliances into the ground. Pull some strings elsewhere. Your act is tired up here.



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