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RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 12:56:00 - [1] It is not right that CCP let New Players buy and use Old game Char. ! I know of 2 Old game char. that now has new players that use them! To me this is just like cheating! The player did not make the isk to train for the skills they have! The player did not do the missions for the standings they have! But yet the new player can get on the game and use the ISK and skills and standing to do any thing they like with out all the time spent to learn! I know of 2 old char. that has new players in them! 1. Delvar 2. I'm hojo Why not strip the skills and standings and set it all the way back like what a new player will have?
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:03:00 - [2] Originally by: Thanit Depends, how did they aquire the characters ? Bought them for isk: then it's fine. Got them any other way: then it's ban. ISK or real money they have no rights to them Skills or Standings!
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:14:00 - [3] Originally by: MadGaz Originally by: RavensMask Originally by: Thanit Depends, how did they aquire the characters ? Bought them for isk: then it's fine. Got them any other way: then it's ban. ISK or real money they have no rights to them Skills or Standings! Pretty strong feelings for a day old character It's perfectly legal to buy a character for isk, lots of people do it. Most of the people who buy characters are rich themselfes so its not like they wont have lots of skill points themselfes. They still did not Train that char. or did the missions with that char.! A Cheat is when some one gets some thing they did have to do what others in the game had to do!
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:18:00 - [4] Originally by: Khatred So according to your "Whaaa Whaaa WHaaa" whine, if I get a friend to play Eve and he likes it I should wait 1 year before he has my combat skills. Maybe you have no friends. I did not Whine and it sounds like to me you wish there was no need for the time it takes to train! Or the time it takes to build standings! Why bother to even play this game then ? If you need some other person to do it all for you and your friend!
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Paw Sandberg Originally by: RavensMask Originally by: Khatred So according to your "Whaaa Whaaa WHaaa" whine, if I get a friend to play Eve and he likes it I should wait 1 year before he has my combat skills. Maybe you have no friends. I did not Whine and it sounds like to me you wish there was no need for the time it takes to train! Or the time it takes to build standings! Why bother to even play this game then ? If you need some other person to do it all for you and your friend! the Q I got to ask is why do you care ?? like I see it he wont have the experiance in Eve that I do so even if I have only played 3 months and a NOOB buy a 1 year old Charector I will be better at making isk,combat, producing and pretty much everything in Eve SP (and isk) is not everything in this game you know They may not know how to use them yet but they have the skills that it takes in a game to mine better or build better or fight better then another new char. ! And they have the standings to go right to a high LVL mission with no work for it!
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Rod Blaine Well, if they do that, they're very likely to lose their ships right away anyway. Which would even things out a bit. But for pve and non-combat actions, this practice does have alot of effect. In combat, skill points matter alot less]. What if they have LVL 5 Uber skills with snipe and the ship and guns so this will not matter if they never did work for them?
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:37:00 - [7] Originally by: anter boohooo... so they played a lot for their isk and actually played game instead just login switch skill training and logoff. Gee let me think had on this one ..... Your one that paid or sold a char.
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 13:41:00 - [8] Originally by: anter Originally by: RavensMask Originally by: Rod Blaine Well, if they do that, they're very likely to lose their ships right away anyway. Which would even things out a bit. But for pve and non-combat actions, this practice does have alot of effect. In combat, skill points matter alot less]. What if they have LVL 5 Uber skills with snipe and the ship and guns so this will not matter if they never did work for them? But they did. They got the isk for buying the char in the first place and I wouldnt call 'work' somethng that is just switching skills and wait. Ok if you see it that way why not just give every player all lvl 5 skills and the ships for free! Like wow what a great game that will be! As if
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 14:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Gift This represents the same problem as buying items for cash (good one Sony). The wealthy already have all the advantages in RL, why should they also get those same advantages in video games? These things are meant to be escapes from RL, not mirrors of it. With that said I can't say the issue keeps me up at night but I do believe it deserves a solid "lame". Thank you for the Lame vote I take total pride in it same as when I say I like punk rock and Devo Yep im Lame and take honor in it.
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 15:14:00 - [10] I like your post Gift But I like to think of Lame as what make things brake there mold. lol
RavensMask	Posted - 2005.05.03 17:02:00 - [11] Edited by: RavensMask on 03/05/2005 17:04:05 Originally by: Daudur Munkur Why do you feel bad when somone else is happy and enjoying himself ? Shut it, and play your own character !! You are whining becouse two players have high skilled chars they didnt train themselves? Do you want them to feel the pain of training a char up to 20m ? Well we have a winner in this one! May be if they cut out the players that have to sell off there old Char. to New Player just to make ISK in the game they will start to play EVE again and not just log in from time to time to train skills just to sell it off for ISK. And there is no pain in having a back bone in the game to do the work for your self! After all there are some of us that likes the dirt and getting to know others. Unlike the one's that have others do every thing for us. _____ (\_/) (> <) (X.x) This is Headless Bunny. Copy Headless Bunny into your signature to help prevent his attempt at world dominatio

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