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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2012.12.02 19:02:00 -
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Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system. |
Yelena Fedorova
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.12.02 23:16:00 -
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Please use the search function to find out why this is and has always been a terrible idea....
not supported for the millionth time |
Sean Parisi
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
54
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:27:00 -
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Vaari wrote:Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system.
Nope. Their counter is the ability to fire back - These ships are substantially weaker on their own and require the ability to attack targets of opportunity. To be honest, a procurer can probably kill a manticore no problem as a side note... |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
562
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:56:00 -
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I, the Right HonoUrable and Learned Chief Justice Lykouleon of the Good People of Goonswarm Federation, Hero of D-GTMI, King of Vagabonds, Freer of Slaves, Destroyer of Providence, Lord-Protector of KBP7-G Until I Got Bored And Left That Terrible Region, Cooker of Bacon, Poster of Badness, And Owner of Further Associated Titles, do hereby declare:
No. Hahahaha, no. And a thousand times no every time I see this same thread pop up every other week.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
37
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:26:00 -
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There are 3 good counters to cloaking:
1) Move over: Hop over a system or two, if they follow see below, if not they are truly AFK and NOT A PROBLEM.
2) Set a trap: Go out in a hulk and mine away with a blue cloaked nearby
3) Show force: Have the blue not clocked
I am not sure who is out in null with zero support anyway.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
777
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:41:00 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:Vaari wrote:Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system. Nope. Their counter is the ability to fire back - These ships are substantially weaker on their own and require the ability to attack targets of opportunity. To be honest, a procurer can probably kill a manticore no problem as a side note...
@ OP: The "fix afk cloaking" topic has been posted to death..... Do some research before posting.... Also, your forum thread doesn't add anything to what's already been discussed on the topic. Hopefully this thread gets locked soon!
Things to keep in mind about cloaks:
1.) AFK cloakers are the only counter to "local chat" being used as an intel system. As long as local chat gives instant information on WHO is in local, then "fixing" afk cloaking is problematic. Essentially, the prices you pay for easy, omniscient intel is dealing wtih afkers hiding out in your system.
2.) Cloaker ships are easy to deal with... when you don't fly alone and stupidly. You can utilize many of the in-game mechanics and continue to play this game even with hostiles in system... I highly recommend you adapt or STFU....
3.) Jump Portalling to Covert and Regular Cyno's is pretty brutal at the moment, and exacerbates the cloaker hunter issues because the cyno very quickly brings in unscoutable and overwhelming force to the battlefield. This is NOT a problem with cloakers, but is a problem with the bridge mechanics.
4.) Any anti-cloaker mechanics, be it fuel, cap drain, probes, etc... should NOT impede a cloaker's ability to perform it's functions:
To travel fairly safely through all of EvE, including the ability to traverse 99% of gate camps with very low risk of getting caught.
[*] To effectively recon a system for extended periods of time, thereby allowing cloakers to monitor enemy activity, including fleet formups, logistics schedules, etc.. |
Cyprus Black
No Flux Given
406
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Posted - 2012.12.05 02:08:00 -
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Are you really that terrified of a player who's away from his keyboard? Maybe this game isn't for you if you scare that easily. Perhaps Hello Kitty Online is just right for you.
Insert Witty Signature Here |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
812
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Posted - 2012.12.05 11:03:00 -
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Not this thread again.  |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Bitten.
658
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Posted - 2012.12.06 08:35:00 -
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I'm convinced people only make these threads to troll. I can't believe yet another crybaby would spew tears over this none issue. |
Lexar Mundi
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
22
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:58:00 -
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Vaari wrote:Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system.
if they are afk there is no problem, just keep doing what your doing.
I played in tribute for a while and when IRC put a cloaky in our system everyone stopped doing their normal stuff. I continued to do what i was doing and the guy never bothered me.
You let cloaked players keep you docked. That is your problem not CCPs |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1374
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:51:00 -
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An AFK player can't stop you from doing anything because they're AFK.
It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
Tribal Band
6
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:05:00 -
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a) try afk-camping a system for yourself. So you see how useless your idea is.
b) Personally, I don't minimize the client while nullratting with a neutral/red in system. Has always worked so far. |
AssassinationsdoneWrong
The Nexus 7's
20
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:22:00 -
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Your corp description OP !!!! 
My eyes!!!!
EVELOAN -áchannel is no longer attended.
Contact me directly over secured loans needed.
AdW
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Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:24:00 -
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Why not make it so that if someone is sitting idle and cloaked, not using dscan or probes or whatever, that after some time - say 10 minutes - they log out of Local until they come back? Seems like it'd solve most of the issues. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1386
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Posted - 2012.12.11 05:20:00 -
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Agromos nulKaedi wrote:Why not make it so that if someone is sitting idle and cloaked, not using dscan or probes or whatever, that after some time - say 10 minutes - they log out of Local until they come back? Seems like it'd solve most of the issues.
CCP would never do this, because the AFK miners would get too upset.
It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries.
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
190
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Posted - 2012.12.12 02:59:00 -
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I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves...
"Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior.
"You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
10794
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:33:00 -
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Vaari wrote:Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system. Why shouldn't someone be allowed, to sit in a system for a month?
Also while they are there, which mechanic are they using to interact with you?
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures
Surely You're Joking
228
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Posted - 2012.12.13 20:41:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Vaari wrote:Cloaking devices are broken. They need some kind of modification, like fuel or something that one afk cloaker cannot spend month just sitting on system. Why shouldn't someone be allowed, to sit in a system for a month? Also while they are there, which mechanic are they using to interact with you?
so much this, as long as Local is omnipotent, cloaking is balanced, maybe if they changed local so that you can only see people who have at some point been ongrid uncloaked with you (such that if they leave grid you can still talk to them, and if they cloak afterwards you can still see them in local for maybe ~30 minutes), or people who are in your alliance/corporation automatically beingb in local, that kinda thing, THEN we can see about changing cloaking, but RIGHT NOW cloaking is perfect for its use. |
Rastino
Mystic Squad
eVolution Reloaded
25
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:06:00 -
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Like the OP I suck at EVE and cry on forums.
Lets try to learn how to play the game and then go to the forums, now couldent that be fun. |
Evanga
Way So Mad
Against ALL Anomalies
27
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:00:00 -
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still the best solution to everything is to remove local, as per wormholes.
I suggest you go back to ratting in your golems, its all fine as the cloakers are Away From Keyboard. ZERO RISK  |
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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
88
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Posted - 2012.12.31 04:22:00 -
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Come live with us for a while, then you'll find out just how horrible an idea the OP really is.
Seriously. Trying to limit 0.0 AFK cloakers would cause hell for us W-spacers, especially when operating well away from one's home base...how would you deal with running out of cloak fuel when you are a covops working random routes out of a hostile C5? Fly 30+ J to Empire and back, strongly risking the route collapsing out from under you? |
VonKolroth
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:31:00 -
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I too want to mindlessly rat for hours chaining hubs and calculating my ISK/hr with little or no risk to myself, and I also don't want to talk to anyone in the game unless they are nice. |
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