With the current changes to Cruisers and Battlecruisers, specifically the powergrid loss for various medium modules (arty, beams and heavy pulses), along with the changes to H/Ms and the loss of around 15% of the Hurricane's powergrid (225 grid), as well as the changes to ASB's, how do you see the current B/C balance changing?

In my (inexpert) opinion, we're going to see a lot less Hurricanes, and what we do see will be Shield and/or Nanofits. SeeBoing ArtyCanes may also become surprisingly popular. The Cyclone is taking a minor nerf with the ASB changes, but should still remain functional.

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You loose 15% base PG on the ship it self, then arty is loosing 10% PG requirements meaning, with perfect skills, you might as well downgrade some items from T2 to meta but it's not a real problem.

Why should we see less hurricanes? -biggest nerf hurricane got was scan res nerf (deserved), this pg thing is nothing and takes absolutely nothing from ship abilities or interest.

10% less cost for Cruiser arty is great, for artillery fitted ships, but it does not address the issues of brawler fits.




The inability to fit an armour (specifically, 1600mm-plated) fit would seem to me, as a Hurricane pilot, to kill one of the rather popular fits - the buffer-fit tackle 'Cane. While the Shield Cane is going to remain viable as ever, it does mean the ship loses versatility of fit.

Well, 220's instead of 425's or 800 instead of 1600 means only this ship now requires some decisions, this is good.
Which other ship had more pg/cpu than it could use all fitted? -none

Once again I think this will change nothing about what you can do with but just bring it on pair with other bc's. Hurricane was far too good at everything: lots of high's, lots of mids and lows hell sometimes for trolling CCP some of us even asked more mids/lows to use all the pg/cpu available. I think this was a good decision from CCP.

BC's are going to have the major rebalance in the next summer update. These are just a few minor changes happening now to BC's. It is much too early to be deciding upon which BC to fly after the rebalance as they are not being done now.

MEH, AC shield hurricanes can still fit whatever the **** they want.

wrong.425mm set + 2 medium neuts + 10mn meta mwd + 2x lse II = fail in powergrid.needs anc

same goes for pretty much any cane standard fitt.

wrong.425mm set + 2 medium neuts + 10mn meta mwd + 2x lse II = fail in powergrid.needs anc.

That's cause you're asking way too much in the first place. Ever tried fitting a NH? That's how all ships should be designed - struggling to cram stuff into ships and thus having to make trade-offs is exactly the reason why we need CPU and grid concepts in this game.

Nighthawk will be interesting in a year, although I'm not sure how it'll be different from the redesigned claymore. Both will be shield missile boats, but the claymore will be faster and have a different shield bonus.

I want to see the brutix lose its armor rep bonus, honestly. It would be brilliant with a falloff or tracking bonus instead. There's no point in having TWO BCs with an active tank bonus, IMO.

I've thought for a long time that their should be some love for the tier 1 BC's

The logical change in my opinion would be to slightly reduce the sig radius and slightly increase the base speed of the Tier 1 BC's so they are in effect a little smaller and faster than the tier 2 BC's, maybe a little lighter as well?

That would make sense to me, currently the Tier 2's are basically better in every way.

The Ferox, I cannot genuinely see any notable change to.

I want to see the brutix lose its armor rep bonus, honestly. It would be brilliant with a falloff or tracking bonus instead. There's no point in having TWO BCs with an active tank bonus, IMO.

Especially regarding the fact, that active armor sucks in combination with turrets that need cap too.


regards,

rob

No, now it's impossible to fit with...well, anything.

And so the Drake becomes king?

Drake always has been king. It's my most flown ship and i've only owned one for 6 months. They dont die and the project amazing damage.

Now they Do even more damage.

Aside from the fact an ASB-fit Cyclone can still eat one for breakfast.

Aye, so can an active tanked brutix 1v1 , doesn't mean it's balanced though.

Crivens, you bunch of whiners.

Kamenev et al. in The Hurricane Sucks Party: if you want your 425 and dual neut welpcane, learn to Reactor Control II. Powergrid issues totally solved. Your argument? Destroyed.

MEH, AC shield hurricanes can still fit whatever the **** they want.

If that's how you destroy an argument, then please, never take up politics. Even the mouthbreathers in office now will WELP you.

really, then how come I can't fit 2 med neuts with my shield buffer that used to work?