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J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 553	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:17:00 - [1] - Quote Been over the dev blog and comments of it but haven't seen it spelled out clearly ... how exactly do you engage someone that has a bounty on them in high sec? Just pew pew him or will concord still intervene? This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless

CCP Soundwave C C P C C P Alliance 2173	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:18:00 - [2] - Quote Concord will intervene (unless they have an open killright you can trigger of course)

J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 553	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:19:00 - [3] - Quote So people with bounties on them are only attackable in low and null .. unless they have a kill right? This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Adriel Malakai Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 105	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:22:00 - [4] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: So people with bounties on them are only attackable in low and null .. unless they have a kill right? No, you can attack them anywhere. You'll just get concorded in HS if they're not: a) a global target (suspect, criminal, outlaw) b) a war target c) a corpmate
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 553	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:27:00 - [5] - Quote Adriel Malakai wrote: J3ssica Alba wrote: So people with bounties on them are only attackable in low and null .. unless they have a kill right? No, you can attack them anywhere. You'll just get concorded in HS if they're not: a) a global target (suspect, criminal, outlaw) b) a war target c) a corpmate Ye those are all attackable bounties or no bounties, just for the bounties sake though, concord will intervene in HS. got it :) This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Mirima Thurander Estrada Dynamics - Exploration and Acquisition 443	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:31:00 - [6] - Quote Or if there of low enough standings to allow it. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me.
Adriel Malakai Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 105	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:33:00 - [7] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: Or if there of low enough standings to allow it. Adriel Malakai wrote: a) a global target (suspect, criminal, outlaw)
Dark Long solo and loveing it 1	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:34:00 - [8] - Quote why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Read the notes.
Liafcipe9000 Smeghead Empire 85	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:39:00 - [9] - Quote look out for buyable killrights.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1063	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:39:00 - [10] - Quote And so far I have provided a wonderful ISK sink for 1,500,000,000 ! This is the best thing for the eVE Economy in ages RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Warde Guildencrantz TunDraGon 335	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:48:00 - [11] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And so far I have provided a wonderful ISK sink for 1,500,000,000 ! This is the best thing for the eVE Economy in ages well, doesnt it just go to another person who kills the person you put bounty on? not really a sink
Mirima Thurander Estrada Dynamics - Exploration and Acquisition 443	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:48:00 - [12] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And so far I have provided a wonderful ISK sink for 1,500,000,000 ! This is the best thing for the eVE Economy in ages ISK trading player hands is not a ISK sink. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1063	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:50:00 - [13] - Quote Warde Guildencrantz wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And so far I have provided a wonderful ISK sink for 1,500,000,000 ! This is the best thing for the eVE Economy in ages well, doesnt it just go to another person who kills the person you put bounty on? not really a sink Payout is now based on percentage of ship and loot value destroyed. They would have to blow up approx 10,000,000,000 ISK worth of me to get the full bounty back. That will take quite awhile tbh. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 68	Posted - 2012.12.04 14:59:00 - [14] - Quote What? Are you CCP alt? Inside mining barge, true story
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1063	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:01:00 - [15] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: What? Are you CCP alt? No. I just have the magical ability to read Dev Blogs. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Gangname Style School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 36	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:01:00 - [16] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: Been over the dev blog and comments of it but haven't seen it spelled out clearly ... how exactly do you engage someone that has a bounty on them in high sec? Just pew pew him or will concord still intervene? You call them out in local then a giant space flag hits a point in space between you two. Then the bunty hunting sesshun will begin.
Lipbite Express Hauler 251	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:39:00 - [17] - Quote I wouldn't call that bounty hunting system because it doesn't worth hunting. tl;dr for "bounty hunting" patch notes: it didn't change anything except you'll get a small amount of ISK for popped ships and pods unless you are lucky to pop someone really evil and stupid with 4b implants, in officer fit ship and a billion(s) bounty on them.
Renier Gaden Exanimo Inc Unclaimed. 26	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:56:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Soundwave wrote: Concord will intervene (unless they have an open killright you can trigger of course) What I want to know is how do you activate a Suspect flag on the target of a Kill Right? Does shooting someone you have a Kill Right to activate the Suspect flag, or does the Kill Right give you a menu option to activate the Suspect Flag so that you can kill them without being Concorded?
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 218	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:05:00 - [19] - Quote Renier Gaden wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: Concord will intervene (unless they have an open killright you can trigger of course) What I want to know is how do you activate a Suspect flag on the target of a Kill Right? Does shooting someone you have a Kill Right to activate the Suspect flag, or does the Kill Right give you a menu option to activate the Suspect Flag so that you can kill them without being Concorded? Look at pictures if you can't read I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:05:00 - [20] - Quote Dark Long wrote: why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Because thats the way it should have been - the way people expected it to be. The current change is nothing but a minor incremental little tweak that does nothing to really boost pvp -- after all in low/null people dont need a reason to shoot at folk while in empire you are still inhibited by concord and sec status. So basically bounty hunting boils down to a mechanism to promote suicide ganking. Its a shame since it could have been so much more, e.g. purchasable aggro rights akin to individual war decs between individual players similar to the war decs that exist between corporations. Kinda reminds me of incursions in how they just dont live up to their potential.
Gilbaron Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke 465	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:28:00 - [21] - Quote you don't need a reason, you need an incentive. an x bazillion bounty on alliance X is a pretty good one I poured their blood in my furys devouring flame
Renier Gaden Exanimo Inc Unclaimed. 26	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:50:00 - [22] - Quote Schmata Bastanold wrote: Renier Gaden wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: Concord will intervene (unless they have an open killright you can trigger of course) What I want to know is how do you activate a Suspect flag on the target of a Kill Right? Does shooting someone you have a Kill Right to activate the Suspect flag, or does the Kill Right give you a menu option to activate the Suspect Flag so that you can kill them without being Concorded? Look at pictures if you can't read I was going off the patch notes, where it was not clear, and there were no pictures. I had not seen this Blog. So I guess I should thank you for the link.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2795	Posted - 2012.12.04 17:08:00 - [23] - Quote Vol Arm'OOO wrote: Dark Long wrote: why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Because thats the way it should have been - the way people expected it to be. The current change is nothing but a minor incremental little tweak that does nothing to really boost pvp -- after all in low/null people dont need a reason to shoot at folk while in empire you are still inhibited by concord and sec status. So basically bounty hunting boils down to a mechanism to promote suicide ganking. Its a shame since it could have been so much more, e.g. purchasable aggro rights akin to individual war decs between individual players similar to the war decs that exist between corporations. Kinda reminds me of incursions in how they just dont live up to their potential. You really, really need to think about how exploitable what you think you want would really be. Bounties are an incentive, as intended. Sellable kill rights are a way to circumvent aggression rules, as intended. It is much easier to become a suspect and be shot by everyone, as intended. I think that's quite enough for the moment. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 1632	Posted - 2012.12.04 17:38:00 - [24] - Quote Dark Long wrote: why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Read the notes. People mixing the ideas of Bounties and Killrights up as expected Reminds me of the whole ridiculous mess of tech 3 and tier 3 ships EDIT - people are acting like the idea of bounties is a new thing? You guys DID know we had bounties before this expansion right!? TK is recruiting
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2012.12.04 17:58:00 - [25] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Vol Arm'OOO wrote: Dark Long wrote: why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Because thats the way it should have been - the way people expected it to be. The current change is nothing but a minor incremental little tweak that does nothing to really boost pvp -- after all in low/null people dont need a reason to shoot at folk while in empire you are still inhibited by concord and sec status. So basically bounty hunting boils down to a mechanism to promote suicide ganking. Its a shame since it could have been so much more, e.g. purchasable aggro rights akin to individual war decs between individual players similar to the war decs that exist between corporations. Kinda reminds me of incursions in how they just dont live up to their potential. You really, really need to think about how exploitable what you think you want would really be. Bounties are an incentive, as intended. Sellable kill rights are a way to circumvent aggression rules, as intended. It is much easier to become a suspect and be shot by everyone, as intended. I think that's quite enough for the moment. The suspect aggro mechanism are, and are intended to be, a disincentive to the engagement to pvp in highsec. Sellable kill rights are also a disincentive to engagement in pvp. Bounties do not promote "gud fights" but rather act as random rewards for gankers. So if you like or want high sec pvp what should you be excited about in this expansion?
Midnight Hope Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2012.12.04 18:05:00 - [26] - Quote Dark Long wrote: why do people think the new bounty system is open killing rights its not. Read the notes. Well... the name RETRIBUTION kinda hinted at that....
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 1210	Posted - 2012.12.04 18:20:00 - [27] - Quote Warde Guildencrantz wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And so far I have provided a wonderful ISK sink for 1,500,000,000 ! This is the best thing for the eVE Economy in ages well, doesnt it just go to another person who kills the person you put bounty on? not really a sink Until the bounty is collected, its out of circulation. There will now forever be a large pool if ISK that cannot be used by anyone to buy stuff. Edit: To engage someone in high sec: 1) Target 2) Apply sufficient DPS to kill the target before CONCORD shows up 3) Kill target 4) Collect bounty 5) Explode to CONCORD http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 1210	Posted - 2012.12.04 18:34:00 - [28] - Quote Vol Arm'OOO wrote: So if you like or want high sec pvp what should you be excited about in this expansion? Sit at a gate and wait for someone with both a buyable killright and a bounty to show up. Activate the killright, kill the target, profit. Find a corp what has a big bounty on them, or many members with big bounties. War dec them. Set a bait can. Wait for a greedy person to go for it. Steal something. Wait for someone who thinks they are an elite PvPer to fire on you and kill them. Or maybe if you really want PvP, you should try someplace other than High sec. It was never the intent that high sec be a hotbed of PvP. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Therran Promitz Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing 6	Posted - 2012.12.04 18:34:00 - [29] - Quote So what's to stop someone with a high bounty going to hisec and stay there in CONCORD's loving arms? Can't exactly get retribution if you get oneshotted by the space police.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 1210	Posted - 2012.12.04 18:39:00 - [30] - Quote Therran Promitz wrote: So what's to stop someone with a high bounty going to hisec and stay there in CONCORD's loving arms? Can't exactly get retribution if you get oneshotted by the space police. If they are in a player corp, wardec the corp. If they are not, suicide gank. Edit: But you got a point, placing a bounty on a high sec dweller is almost useless. It may slightly increase the chances they will get suicide ganked. I think the main use for bounties will be for those who dwell in low, null and W. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/

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