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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.05.10 18:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Rodj Blake
I was hoping that someone would say that.
God exists, and that's a fact.
There is only one God, and that is also a fact.
Yup, and its also a fact you venerate a shriveled up old cyborg who has delusions of being God's spokesman.
Repent and you can be saved.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.05.10 18:51:00 -
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No, I mean Atheist.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Shemar
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Posted - 2005.05.10 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bhurak
I daresay it is far healthier than finding new and exciting ways to debauch ourselves, like so many of your people do.
"Blue Pill or clap ridden pleasure hub girls? hmmm...."
Oh yeah, hiding all my actions behind a big bad god instead of taking responsibility for them is so much healthier 
For the record, I have nothing against drugs and pleasure hubs, but personally I have no use for them. I find my life quite interesting enough and the only "companions" I care for are women that are just as interested in me as I am in them. 
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Skinman
It matters not. You shall burn in Hell either way, while the righteous look on in pity.
Seems you're pretty prideful in yourself for being righteous.
I don't mind religion in general, but what I don't understand is this belief in racial and religious superiority that is being paraded around. This can be applied to any person who thinks they're a step above the others, though through my experiences I see it most in the Amarr I've come across. Maybe I've just run across a bad crowd, I do not know, but I found the following lines from a famous author interesting:
"...A proud man is always looking down on things and people: and of course, as long as you are looking down, you cannot see something that is above you... How is it that people who are quite obviously eaten up with Pride can say they believe in God and appear to themselves very religious? I am afraid it means they are worshipping an imaginary God. They theoretically admit themselves to be nothing in the presence of this phantom God, but are really all the time imagining how He approves of them and thinks them far better than ordinary people."
I don't wish to drag on hostilities, but I hope some people come to see the truth in that.
And before anyone responds, I'd like to point out that we're not talking about "pride" in the sense of "I love my State/Empire/Federation/Republic, my family" etc. That type of pride I must freely admit I have. The same author also continued, "To love and admire anything outside yourself is to take one step away from spiritual ruin"
I go into battle expecting that even the weakest of enemies would possibly be able to take me out. Though the Caldari military is strong, I don't personally go around proclaiming that we can lay waste to anything in our path.
On the other hand, if you actually believe in equality, and that God made a universe of balance, then there should be little problem.
-Kyoko Sakoda
Omerta Syndicate
<Oveur> cause there is nothing as boring as seeing your ship jumping 50 systems
<Oveur> I can like, have sex 150 times during that period |
Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:14:00 -
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You obviously know nothing about the Amarr religion then, because you seem to try to impress on us a stereotypical Gallente view of our religion which I constantly see from even non-Gallente people such as yourself. Your analysis might be right when confronting the weak false religion that undoubtebly your race has spawned before its drive into extreme capitalism, but yet they are dissimilar from the true faith in many ways.
The Amarr scriptures tell us that the Amarr are the Chosen ones. When everyone else turned away from God, the Amarr strived to become one with God, travelling through the fourty thousand year desert to show that they were truly worthy. No one else but the Amarr, not even a Ni-Kunni such as I, can become a Chosen One. Amarr superiority comes from this, and not a misguided personal pride. An Amarr is steadfast in his superiority and faith in God. Every other race, including my own, is inferior.
The scriptures also tell us that we will reclaim what is rightfully ours. This is and always has been the Amarr destiny.
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Dei Gloria
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Bhurak
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shemar
Oh yeah, hiding all my actions behind a big bad god instead of taking responsibility for them is so much healthier
Again, I disrespectfully disagree :D
No regrets and all that!
Bhurak Nossrep
CLH CIC
"Gentleman of Fortune"
Random Miner> Did you how steal my ore, lacked prospects or a bright future the thing you wanted me to take the fight airship to hit you
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:26:00 -
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Superior or not, a torpedo will do the same thing to an Amarr as it does to everything else.
With that, I dont care what you do or how you act with your primitive little beliving in ghosts and whatever...just keep buying my stuff in Amarr and Domain.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:32:00 -
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That may be true, but the Amarr will triumph in the end. God has said so and so it shall be.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
That may be true, but the Amarr will triumph in the end. God has said so and so it shall be.
God also says to buy torpedo's from Pulgor's used torpedo bay! Special discount to faithful believers!
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:38:00 -
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Are you sure? I can't see it in the scriptures anywhere. Better go back to the library and check...
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Dei Gloria
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Are you sure? I can't see it in the scriptures anywhere. Better go back to the library and check...
I'm positive sir! It's in there right next to "Reclaim thy neighbor" and "Don't toucheth another's balding ox"
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.05.11 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
You obviously know nothing about the Amarr religion then, because you seem to try to impress on us a stereotypical Gallente view of our religion which I constantly see from even non-Gallente people such as yourself.
A "Gallente" view of religion... has the label "Gallente" come to mean "liberal" and "radical?" Because I sure as hell don't see anything liberal about logic. You are, however, very humble and dedicated to the Amarr cause, which I find interesting if you're being regarded as one of God's second-rate citizens.
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Your analysis might be right when confronting the weak false religion that undoubtebly your race has spawned before its drive into extreme capitalism, but yet they are dissimilar from the true faith in many ways.
If by "weak false religion," you mean pride, then yes, my kin can definately have a problem with it, but doesn't the rest of humanity fall victim to it as well? Looking down on others as worthless and helpless, struting around with a high neck and a chin held up because you have more, or feel you're worth more. If anyone denies they've ever felt this way, they're a hypocrit, and I'll be the first on this thread to admit that I'm certainly not the most humble person.
-Kyoko Sakoda
Omerta Syndicate
<Oveur> cause there is nothing as boring as seeing your ship jumping 50 systems
<Oveur> I can like, have sex 150 times during that period |
Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.11 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
A "Gallente" view of religion... has the label "Gallente" come to mean "liberal" and "radical?" Because I sure as hell don't see anything liberal about logic.
By "Gallente" I mean the view that all religions should be fair and equal and that as a religious person I should go around giving flower necklaces to other cultures and be nice to them in the hope that maybe they will convert. There is no easy road to God, unfortunately. It isn't about suddenly turning around and saying that you have seen the light.
As for your comment about being a "second rate citizen", whatever may that be, it matters little to me. I am, and always have been, a slave to God. All that matters is that I serve him to the best of my abilities.
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Dei Gloria
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:35:00 -
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That's a shame, Konstantin, you'd really suit a flower necklace.
And, it's really a shame that god didn't save the endless number of crew that went up in flames recently, or the capsule pilots who were... unlucky enough to find themselves scrambled.
Hell. I probably saved more myself, i let at least two of your capsules go.
Hiding behind god is like a child hiding beneath the covers.
Sure, cover your eyes and it'll all go away.
But it doesn't go away, does it. It never goes away.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
I am, and always have been, a slave to God. All that matters is that I serve him to the best of my abilities.
Then why are you working for the perversion of God's will known as the CVA?
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:12:00 -
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Defending the empire is a perversion of God's will?! You make less sense that a Gallente.
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Dei Gloria
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2005.05.11 22:57:00 -
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Will any and all people who claim that the existence of God is a fact please post their proof? I'm interested in reading how they have succeeded where the greatest theologists since the dawn of time have failed. And, as this is the one thing above all others that will forever radically change the nature of humanity, could they please forward a copy to all the heads of the various states? After all, the unambiguous and undeniable proof of the existence of the Amarrian god kinda has repercussions for them and their people...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.05.12 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Doone
Will any and all people who claim that the existence of God is a fact please post their proof? I'm interested in reading how they have succeeded where the greatest theologists since the dawn of time have failed. And, as this is the one thing above all others that will forever radically change the nature of humanity, could they please forward a copy to all the heads of the various states? After all, the unambiguous and undeniable proof of the existence of the Amarrian god kinda has repercussions for them and their people...
You mean proof along the lines of eyewitness accounts of God's works? If that's what you need, I suggest you return to the Scriptures which you clearly have not studied as much you should.
Other proof is freely available, but it takes a truly enlightened individual to appreciate it.
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2005.05.12 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
You mean proof along the lines of eyewitness accounts of God's works? If that's what you need, I suggest you return to the Scriptures which you clearly have not studied as much you should.
Other proof is freely available, but it takes a truly enlightened individual to appreciate it.
The Scriptures hold no more credibility than the fairy tales my father used to tell me to try and get me to shut up at night. Until these eyewitness accounts are independantly verified by the scientific community, why should we treat them as anything other than a pack of lies dreamt up in order to keep people afraid?
The existence of the Amarrian empire is not proof of God's existence. All it proves is that religion can be used as a means of coercion against credulous people.
However, people aren't so credulous any more. You are entitled to believe whatever you want to believe, but please, don't insult people's intelligence by trying to pass if off as a truth that we're not enlightened enough to understand.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.12 18:17:00 -
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People that require proof will never be able to see the truth and God. You are blind and you will keep being blind as long as you search for proof. Blind eyes will never seen the light, no matter how long they strain.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.05.12 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
People that require proof will never be able to see the truth and God. You are blind and you will keep being blind as long as you search for proof. Blind eyes will never seen the light, no matter how long they strain.
Like the man says, you'll end up in eternal damnation land with me for company. That's ok though, we'll have lots of fun!
We can play checkers, "Everlasting Worlds and Empires", "Total war", and generally have a good time while emperor amarr and friends pay dues to god and while away eternity building a statue in "Heaven" or wherever their god resides.
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Elverna Bradshaw
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Posted - 2005.05.12 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
People that require proof will never be able to see the truth and God. You are blind and you will keep being blind as long as you search for proof. Blind eyes will never seen the light, no matter how long they strain.
My eyes are wide open, Mr. Mort, and my vision is 20/20. And I see the Amarrian religion for what it is -- indeed what nearly all other religions are -- a means by which the elite control the masses by playing on superstition.
There is but one God. The Way, the Truth, the Light.
The Shatner.
The Shatner once lived among us in human form, and we have photographic evidence.
Mr. Mort, do you have such concrete evidence of the existence of your god?
I didn't think so.
No Shatner, no peace. Know Shatner, know peace.
Elverna Bradshaw
Grand Matriarch
Defender of the Faith
Protector of the Sacred Toupee
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.12 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kostantin Mort on 12/05/2005 22:15:43
<If you click on my picture here on the left, you will see a picture of me, too. Does that make me a God? And even if this Shatner person that you speak of does exist, I have a feeling that he was nothing more than an actor that cut his sentences in order to create dramatic silences at innapropiate times. But I'm going on a hunch here.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
Mordax Ibrium
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Posted - 2005.05.12 23:32:00 -
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C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
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