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James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:04:00 -
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The other day I was mining with a friend, in heavily populated asteroid belt and I mentioned to him, "Wouldn't it be great it we could play a game of cards while we were mining? We could even play the other miners and earn some isk while we are waiting."
The thought occurred to me that there are several professions in New Eden that require a certain amount of waiting. Whether you are clearing out an Asteroid belt, waiting by a jump gate to gank a transport or manufacturing a large order, there are lulls that can be rather mind numbing. Why not have a simple game that could be played with other local players while you wait to finish up, and since this is EVE there should be some risk involved such as buy ins and wagers. Who knows, it could even spawn a new profession: the Gambler.
The only drawback I can see is that if the game included gambling the rating may have to go to Mature (I'm not sure about that), and it may cut out some of the teen audience. But besides that I thought it could be an interesting implementation.
What are your thoughts?
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Crimeo Khamsi
AirHogs
Zulu People
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:09:00 -
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Poker is so mainstream. What we need is space baccarat!
In all seriousness, I like the idea a lot, however you need to consider what happens to the poker (or whatever) game if and when the **** hits the fan and somebody is about to come through the gate, or whatnot? Who wins the hand? What sort of time limits are there?
Something like chess might be better, where you can have much longer turns without making the game horrible (long enough to go fight somebody and come back and still make your next move =P)
Quote:The only drawback I can see is that if the game included gambling the rating may have to go to Mature (I'm not sure about that), and it may cut out some of the teen audience. But besides that I thought it could be an interesting implementation.
I can assure you this is not the case. There are many games out there with explicit gambling and no mature rating. As long as you can't cash out real money from gambling, nobody seems to really care legally. |
Solutio Letum
Lost Dawn Chaos
Stealth Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:10:00 -
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James Ozymandias wrote:
cut out some of the teen audience.
teens play eve O.o
on a serious note, good idea over all |
James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:23:00 -
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Crimeo Khamsi wrote:
In all seriousness, I like the idea a lot, however you need to consider what happens to the poker (or whatever) game if and when the **** hits the fan and somebody is about to come through the gate, or whatnot? Who wins the hand? What sort of time limits are there?
Off the top of my head, When you invite a person to a game (let's just use poker for the time being) you would predetermine the amount of hands you would play, and the amount of time each person had on their turn. The game could be minimized if needed, for battles, switching targets etc. Also if you die or choose to leave the card game, whatever isk is on the table is just added to the pot. |
Crimeo Khamsi
AirHogs
Zulu People
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:40:00 -
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Eh, but poker isn't very much fun unless you can put up an amount of money that you at least sort of care about. And if you have enough money to care about, then you wouldn't want to play in a situation where you might have to leave suddenly and forfeit your cash (in other words, EVERY situation in space, pretty much...).
It also gives people a convenient excuse for banking all the time ("oh ****.. I uh... just got attacked by a pirate... yeah that's it... nothing to do with having just won a big hand and not wanting to risk my winnings anymore..."), which is annoying. |
Seranova Farreach
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:48:00 -
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naw time sink is Planetary interaction, scam spam and so on... poker and all those things are scams themselves.. |
James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:49:00 -
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Crimeo Khamsi wrote:Eh, but poker isn't very much fun unless you can put up an amount of money that you at least sort of care about. And if you have enough money to care about, then you wouldn't want to play in a situation where you might have to leave suddenly and forfeit your cash (in other words, EVERY situation in space, pretty much...).
It also gives people a convenient excuse for banking all the time ("oh ****.. I uh... just got attacked by a pirate... yeah that's it... nothing to do with having just won a big hand and not wanting to risk my winnings anymore..."), which is annoying.
In regard to your second point, of course you are always going to have annoying players that are going to ruin the experience for others. I mean we are playing Eve... On the other hand it would be a great tool to have for players that know each other, corps and alliances, so that they could pass some time, and make a little isk.
As for your first point, that is why it could be minimized for a period of time. Or if you have to leave the system, once you are in a game you are in the game until the hand is over and you can pull out.
I would be happy to hear some more drawbacks to troubleshoot. |
James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:54:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote: poker and all those things are scams themselves..
Then are you saying it would fit in perfectly?
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Ashbourne
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.05 12:01:00 -
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EOH poker fills this gap fairly well. Though it's run in a seperate browser, the game is in a compact popup you can resize so you can keep an eye on eve. I'm sure there are more that work that way.
It would be funny if CCP added something akin to the Gamepig from system shock 2. A simple 2D textbased platform that plays a few simple games made entirely of code and ascii. Throw in a player ability to code their own and sell them ingame as 'carts' and we might be onto something. |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2012.12.05 13:04:00 -
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I think the best path for CCP to reach this is to:
1 - Revamp POS
2 - Add a Cassino room in the POS
3 - Add WiS on the POS and WiS on the Cassino
4- Add secondary games to the cassino...
If you want this to happen, please go to this Tread and give some constructive comment:
New POS system ( Block Built - Starbasecraft)
Please read this! > New POS system ( Block Built - Starbasecraft)
Please read this! >-á[Debate] - ISK SINK |
Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries
Sick N' Twisted
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Posted - 2012.12.05 14:47:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:I think the best path for CCP to reach this is to: 1 - Revamp POS 2 - Add a Cassino room in the POS 3 - Add WiS on the POS and WiS on the Cassino 4- Add secondary games to the cassino... If you want this to happen, please go to this Tread and give some constructive comment: New POS system ( Block Built - Starbasecraft)
While I agree that POS casinos would.be awesome, as I have already said on your thread, -1 for going off and not reading the OP before posting. How can he use a POS casino while he's mining?
Eve Online Holdem, (EOH for short,) does exactly what you ask. There are others like EveBet and Blink. They are designed to be used with the ingame browser.
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James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 14:48:00 -
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Ashbourne wrote:EOH poker fills this gap fairly well. Though it's run in a seperate browser, the game is in a compact popup you can resize so you can keep an eye on eve. I'm sure there are more that work that way. It would be funny if CCP added something akin to the Gamepig from system shock 2. A simple 2D textbased platform that plays a few simple games made entirely of code and ascii. Throw in a player ability to code their own and sell them ingame as 'carts' and we might be onto something.
Wow thanks for posting about that, I hadn't run across it before. I think the goal would be to integrate it more into the game, to be more accessible to the players. |
Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries
Sick N' Twisted
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:02:00 -
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Like several other activities, EOH is a player made and run application that makes a lot of isk for the guys who have put a lot of effort into it.
Advertising it in game would be great. Imagine a POS in front of jita 4-4 with a big neon sign on it advertising EOH!
Making it part of the structure of EvE would mean others would be able to do the same very easily and it would lose its uniqueness and charm. The owners would also lose out on all the isk they are making.
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James Ozymandias
Ravenswood Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:21:00 -
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Hakan MacTrew wrote:Like several other activities, EOH is a player made and run application that makes a lot of isk for the guys who have put a lot of effort into it.
Advertising it in game would be great. Imagine a POS in front of jita 4-4 with a big neon sign on it advertising EOH!
Making it part of the structure of EvE would mean others would be able to do the same very easily and it would lose its uniqueness and charm. The owners would also lose out on all the isk they are making.
I totally understand that some people have put large amounts of time and effort into EOH, and they have done a great job!
As I was looking at the site I noticed that there were only 21 people online and there were only 500 on last week. Compared to the 28,000 that are on EVE right now that seems like a very small number. It seems to me that it would be great to have their system integrated into the game a bit more so that others would be willing to access it
Another drawback I see in using EOH is that it is a player made application. Automatically I see so many ways that my hard earned isk can be drained into another players account, plus if their site goes down I have no guarantee that my isk will be there when it gets back online.
Not trying to have an EOH bashing post, I guess what I am trying to say is that I would like a CCP backed application that could be used in game.
With these features:
- Local system support
- Can play within corps anywhere in New Eden
- Instant payouts
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Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries
Sick N' Twisted
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:00:00 -
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Much like the isk lenders, 3rd party cap traders and BPO researchers, it boils down to trust and reputation. Its true, they could take your isk, and theres no built in system that guarantees the return of your isk. But if they did that, there wouldn't be tens of billions of isk moving through their accounts on a weekly basis.
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Ashbourne
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:50:00 -
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If CCP could get Flash to work on the ingame browser, it would be a big help. |
EOH Saint
Eve Online Hold'Em
ISK Six
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Posted - 2013.02.23 12:37:00 -
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Just a few facts about EOH - Eve Online Hold'em.
EOH is Eve's oldest gaming establishment. We have been running hundreds of tournaments daily for over 5 years. We have handled over 255 Trillion isk and current book over 1 Trillion isk of bets per week. There are no cases of anyone ever having their isk stolen or lost by by EOH. Search the forums- you will only find hundreds of posts saying what a good, fun and trusted service we are.
Our poker client was not written in house. It is commercial software. We do not and can not control it. EOH does not have any interest in which players win. We receive payment in the form of rake on each game. We are paid the same no matter who wins. We make MUCH more by being honest than could ever be made with any dishonest. Our real motivation is playing fun poker and being part of a great community inside Eve.
Drop by and check us out.
www.eohpoker.com
EOH Saint
EOH Owner |
Yolo
Dominion of Inter-Celestial Kings
SQUEE.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 18:20:00 -
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You can write a cardgame with html, css and javascript. ingame compitable.
Here is linkage to a prototype as proof.
http://ken.nu/wp-content/uploads/2013/1/cards.html
Code is available for download, just view source. |
Vix Udan
Terra Prospecting and Acquisition
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Posted - 2013.02.23 18:28:00 -
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Excellent idea!!! two thumbs up! |
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