Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.05.14 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Trepkos on 14/05/2005 19:42:53
 Originally by: Hure Dilro
The long post from the Supremacy guy is pretty much spot on with what happened...but leaves out a few behind the scenes details, such as:
The stupid SCA thing was done by CLS and done without even Xetic's president's knowledge or consent! Pretty much just a one man operation. Literally.
The war between Xetic and [5] was largely caused and aggravated by CLS and DDC who held the majority of Xetic leadership and military positions.
Most of Xetic went WTF?!?!?! at the war because they didnt care about [5] moving in next door and would have been happy to peacefully co-exist...or at least wait for them to attack first instead of declaring war on them.
When CLS and DDC didnt get what they thought they would when they dragged all of Xetic into their own conflict, they betrayed their alliance to create a new one, and NAPed with the people they dragged everyone else in to fight.
So, to condense the situation into a few lines:
CLS did lots of things that reflected badly on ALL of Xetic, despite mostly being entirely due to the actions of the incredibly powerhungry tit w**k that is CYVOK.
CLS got exactly what they had wanted for months before any 0.0 war happened - Feythabolis.
DDC and CLS formed their new alliance, NAPed with the people that THEY started a war with and left all the people that didnt want any war in the first place to finish off what they couldnt. Betraying everyone in Xetic (who had been foolish enough to elect them into positions of power).
Xetic is regrouping and just wants one region due to their diminished size and pretty much just wants to be left alone. Now that all the giant egos and itchy trigger fingers and attention seekers have left them they are once again just a carebear alliance. Interested in their own affairs, and not interested in intruding in others' (like DDC and CLS enjoyed under the Xetic name).
DDC and CLS have become, essentially, new ATUKs and SPURMs and SNRAs...except without any credibility. For whatever you want to say about the [5]...they are doing their thing and doing it well, they have earned what they have. ASCN got what they have by stabbing friends in the back and taking it unsuspectingly.
That was more than a few lines...but never mind. I am sure anyone reading this can see that i am biased towards one side a little. But it isnt against [5]. I dont mind the [5] at all, they are good for a laugh, good for a fight and they are skilled at what they do. On top of those fighting skills...their social engineering has reached an epic level with this escapade too! They pretty much persuaded DDC and CLS to just take what they wanted and screw over the rest of the Xetic alliance.
I am biased against ASCN because, as i really hope that everyone in the wider world of eve and not just the south know, ASCN is an alliance made up entirely of traitors, people who would abandon others when the going gets tough or when they dont get their way. People who expect everyone to follow their own lead. Essentially, one HUGE ego.
Interact with them, NAP, MDP, WAR with them, trade with them, whatever!
JUST, FOR GODS SAKE, DON'T EVER TRUST THEM.
Well, I agree with CLS, and DDC, I would get mad at the way most of Xetic would and I witnessed it, not help in any combat-like way possible. It was extremely annoying to have enemy forces running all over our space and see a Xetic member ask about mining barge BPOs and different ore mining crystals, with only a select few of members of Xetic, namely the application corporations actually defending the space they were stationed at.
Now, eventhough this will probably anger CLS and DDC members, back during the 2004 Christmas campaigns when RUS invaded immensea. I only saw scarce few of CLS members in the defending forces(In the first days atleast), I never saw a DDC member because they had their own thing going on up in Catch. Most of the people who were defending immensea during those times went off to create E-R.
So on one side I dont blame CLS and DDC for leaving Xetic because of the lazy, whiney, non-combatants which plagued the alliance most of the time, but I disagree with the way they did it.
Like he mentioned, they got Xetic into the war, and with much inspirational speeches by the CLS CEO and etc, they left Xetic to the war they started.
Anyways best of luck to all sides. That is just my point of view on the situation, and I will mention that I may have overlooked several things, feel free to correct me...but do not flame me.
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What can I lose? My dignity...every single inch of it.
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