I'll try to make another mockup with all your ideas.

The new proposal for more information in the fleet window is great. I would love to solve the "x up if you are ready" in fleet chat.

I posted this a while ago:

Please Add a Fleet Bonus Information Tab to the Fleet UI

I think this information aught to be incorporated into any "new" fleet UI.

Mockup updates :

1.
My Fleet tab :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/744032MyFleet.png
At least... the Watch List window would not be necessary anymore.
(this is the same mockup posted above)


2.a
Broadcast tab :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/578043Broadcasts.png
Two checkboxes could allow the player to display broadcasts, enemies other fleet members target, or both.


2.b
Broadcast tab :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/862405Broadcastsonly.png
This is the same tab but here you can see that the player only enabled broadcasts.


3.
Fleet Ships tab :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/919546FleetShips.png
This tab would display the kind of ships fleet members are in + a way to inform the FC that you are ready, busy, away..
Maybe these radiobuttons could change automatically if you are afk or in a station for too long.. (just an idea..)

EDIT : i added "ready - busy - away" but maybe it would make more sense it there was "ready - away - dead" ... ? what do you think ?

I admit, some informations could be displayed on the same tab (I will make another mockup, gathering these informations as much as possible).

But there's also something to take into account : the window width. The more information you add in a window, the wider the window will be. And I am sure CCP takes that into account because if a window can't be resized to the minimum, some players will complain.

Remove fleet/gang warps.

If you group isn't skilled enough to work as a team, you shouldn't get the benefit of everyone leaving or arriving on grid at the same time.

looks good, however, if you look at my google doc, you'll see more what i'm looking for.

The broadcasts, watchlists, fleet members, and their ship would all be combined into one tab, and the broadcast options would be there as well.

Now, the fleet roles, distance from you, and ready checks can stay on a seperate tab.

As far as fleet members' targets...Well, some players, like logi's or ewar may have more than one target, so this may not work..

...it would be really nice to have a mechanic to *respond* to FCs. Spamming Xs in fleet when you're ready to do XYZ is a pain in the ass. A broadcast that would (temporally) highlight you in the fleet window as "ready" would be good. Something resettable by the FC.

Broadcast when ready. Fleet "in the green" as it were.

I literally just had the idea of a "Ready Up/X Up" lights system for Fleets, to replace the current "X up" spam in chat. Searched Features & Ideas, found this thread, and saw -



I support this wholeheartedly and really want to see this implemented during the next iteration of Fleets and Fleet UI. The mockups in this thread are excellent, too.

tnx for the support.

If there's anymore advice you, or anyone can give that Taliah Meyhin and I haven't thought of, then feel free to mention them.

Before you came up with the idea of a 'Status' column (with options like 'Ready', 'En route', 'Busy', etc.), I thought a simple 'light' system would work best with the fleet hierarchy view - FC calls for 'group ready', resetting all pilots' status to Red. A pilot can toggle their own status from Red to Green and back at will. If all of a squad's members are marked as Green, then the squad itself is marked as Green. I even thought that having these Red/Green status lights as an X would work best, as it would fit with the existing 'X up' lingo. However, I suppose the same thing could be done with the status flags. If every member of a squad is Ready, then the squad itself is listed as Ready, and likewise with all the other major statuses - if the statuses are mixed, either the squad shouldn't have a status listed, or it should show the lowest-available status (ie. if one guy is Busy, the entire squad is considered Busy). Commanders would have the ability to clear the last reported status of everyone under them in the hierarchy.

It's worth noting that the Fleet Composition window already automatically mentions if a pilot is docked, in the place of their ship type, so perhaps 'Docked' and 'In Warp' should be automatic statuses. 'Down' doesn't really need a status - if their Ship Type says Capsule, or they've changed system and appear as 'Docked', it's fairly obvious what has happened to them.

Essentially, the Fleet Composition sub-window and the watch-list need to be integrated into the Fleet Hierarchy window as a singular Fleet Operations & Command window. I notice that the current mockup doesn't show or respect hierarchy of squads, wings and fleets, which would be ideal, but would play havoc with the nice table formatting. If either Taliah or you can find a nice way to incorporate the hierarchical view, that would make it perfect and ready to present to CCP. I hope this is on their agenda, as the next wave of balance changes are coming to Battlecruisers and Command Ships, which inevitably means an overhaul of Warfare Links and Fleets.

Taliah had this
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/948445MyFleet.png

However, I'm not sure that I like so many tabs.

As you can see, the mockup shows a horizontal scrollbar for those who want many informations (many columns) and there could also be another option to choose which columns to display.

I hope that a CCP dev will read this topic. There are great ideas here

I didn't read what Fozzie was talking about, I'm assuming it was some way to mass-control a fleet from the top down, which I wouldn't be for.

However, I wholeheartedly support combining information into the single fleet window, or even revamp the overview to include this type of functionality with multiple open tabs, etc...

Also, I'd like the ability to drag people between squads, and for some reason, moving squad leaders out of squads gets them stuck in a perma-session change.

Also, moving people while they have a session change timer always results in it not working and I have to do it again, can't it just stack the command at the end of the current session change?

dragging and dropping fleet members into new fleets would be nice