I don't really have the answer on how to "fix" EVE. Personally the areas that I play in seem fine and I enjoy it.

Anyway, to the point of my reply: I often read of people complaining about blob warfare and the lack of small gang warfare, but I have to ask where you guys hang out? Where I hang out I see a lot of small gang pvp. Granted it seems to take and hold SOV right now you need a blob but surely the point about small gang pvp is that there's less risk involved? The NPC areas close to me, Fountain NPC+Delve+Syndicate+Outer Ring, have quite a few small corps and alliances who run a lot of small gang roams through the various regions surrounding us. I think people generally cry "blob" when they encounter a fleet a little larger than themselves. I've often been in a fleet of say 30 and encountered a fleet of 20 and been accused of blobbing, only to encounter that same alliance in reverse numbers. Personally I think people complain too much and make up excuses for their losses.

As for your final point regarding smaller alliances forming up into larger coalitions... Isn't this the very action that you were just arguing against in your comments regarding blob warfare? How can you increase small gang pvp if you merge those small gangs into a blob to fight another blob? That is counter-intuitive. I think a balance to super capitals and perhaps some changes to the nature of sov warfare would be better. If an alliance could hold sov without needing to deploy blobs to defend it then they would be less inclined to join/create a coalition.

The only way for players to make EVE better is to vote with your feet; subscribe if you enjoy the game, unsubscribe if you do not. If you do unsubscribe, give them an articulate and politely-worded explanation of your reasons. You can also vote in the CSM election but the CSM does not make policy so that is less useful.

I disagree at one point eeh dot.

TriumvirateDOT best DOT

Gank miners in empire to make nullsec mining worthwhile again.

I'm thinking in terms of the player base trying to fix the way things are in 0.0 now. To do that, you have to utilize the tools you have. To take out a larger, or to even survive against a larger coalition you need a coalition of your own. Does it pose it's own problems yes. Hence why I'm wondering what others are thinking.

Maybe if we talk about it, someone will take some of the ideas and run with it, and have a success with it. CCP isn't the one that decided to form up and take out Bob and IT, that was it's player base. CCP wasn't the one to come up with mercenary corps and alliances that would do pvp for isk, that was it's playerbase. So using the tools that we have, what can we do to make Eve interesting again?

Well I don't think you can just say to the big alliances/coalitions "hey guys, unblue each other, k?" Doesn't work like that. Coalitions/nap fests are a result of game mechanics which is something the player base can't fix, unless by protesting/CSM. You COULD form a huge coalition to take out all coalitions in the game, but then you'll still have the same problem you're complaining about.

However the way things are going, things will stagnate.

However the way things are going, things will stagnate.

I disagree at one point eeh dot.

TriumvirateDOT best DOT

fix 0.0 = come up with better sov mechanics

fix 0.0 = make supercarriers just have 20 fighters again, keep hp, give back sp put into fighterbombers skill

fix 0.0 = remove focused dd, re-add AOE dd but with more drawbacks that make sense

fix 0.0 = all major alliance should recognize their blues to be reds and just kill everyone

fix 0.0 = dreads should be primary cap killing ships, just like the olden days, carriers should be supporting your support (killing support with fighter/drones, using triage) supercarriers should be killing bs's bc's with 20 fighters, neuting, smartbombing using remote ecm burst, titans should be bridging, using gang bonuses, and using a revised AOE dd)

the good old eve days had all of this, minus the sov mechanics, bring it back eeeeeeeeeeeeee

I sincerely hope you're joking.

The only way for players to make EVE better is to vote with your feet; subscribe if you enjoy the game, unsubscribe if you do not. If you do unsubscribe, give them an articulate and politely-worded explanation of your reasons. You can also vote in the CSM election but the CSM does not make policy so that is less useful.

There is a 19.7% chance he is not joking...

... i like this thread though.

The first thing you can do is vote out anyone in the CSM who is making war on hisec miners. The second thing you can do is get 2 people who have never played Eve-to play Eve. 1 of the 2 should stay. If everyone recruits 2 people-Eve's subscriber base will double giving CCP more money to hire new devs and more stuff etc.

Also: D34CSM7

The first thing you can do is vote out anyone in the CSM who is making war on hisec miners. The second thing you can do is get 2 people who have never played Eve-to play Eve. 1 of the 2 should stay. If everyone recruits 2 people-Eve's subscriber base will double giving CCP more money to hire new devs and more stuff etc.

Also: D34CSM7

The first thing you can do is vote out anyone in the CSM who is making war on hisec miners. The second thing you can do is get 2 people who have never played Eve-to play Eve. 1 of the 2 should stay. If everyone recruits 2 people-Eve's subscriber base will double giving CCP more money to hire new devs and more stuff etc.

Also: D34CSM7

boo hoo, someone has to rip down a tower. Perhaps managing TOWERS even is poor entertainment.

Clearly you have never dealt with a POS before.

1. We as Eve people, should realize that 0.0 is not the only part of Eve that matters.

Are you high?

The first thing you can do is vote out anyone in the CSM who is making war on hisec miners. The second thing you can do is get 2 people who have never played Eve-to play Eve. 1 of the 2 should stay. If everyone recruits 2 people-Eve's subscriber base will double giving CCP more money to hire new devs and more stuff etc.

Also: D34CSM7

Hi, what i think - the 4 high end anomalies per system dragged a lot of people to nullsec. When it was cancelled, many people found out there is nothing for them. Hunters who enjoyed catching deadspace fitted tengu in anomaly now fly through dead systems just to come to one with so many anoms that chance to pick the right one with tengu in it, is significantly small. Also, i have the feeling that exiting warp now takes longer than before - i noticed sometimes last 1 AU of warp takes 30 secs in dual nano curse!!! (do you have the same experience?). Simply theres not so much fun for many kinds of people in nullsec. I met R&K member who remembered old days when they were hunting carebears in Vale and Geminate , he said that they often caught several tengus a day, but now its a difficult thing as ratters are concentrated in distant, bubbled and well protected systems. So my ideas are actually to improve the funny part, besides the blob support improvement that is needed as well.

1) Change in anomalies GÇô current state supports people concentrating in few systems with good truesec, while majority of systems are empty because useless GÇô meaning 0.0 is actually less profitable than empire space. I would suggest:
-0.0 to -0.2: 2 high-end anomalies per system
-0.3 to -0.6: 4 high end anomalies per system
-0.7 to -1.0: 8 high end anomalies per system
(flying solo or small gang pvp is frustrating now, you just fly 20 empty systems where is nobody and then you come to one terribly bubbled and inhabitated by so many people, that engaging one results 20 other come to help once they find out you are alone)

2) Value of good truesec systems should be in belts GÇô belt NPCs should drop significantly more loot and salvage compared to anomaly / mission NPCs, also chaining should start with much better NPCs in low truesec systems (so no need to shoot BC + frig spawns to get 1.85 mil BS spawns, spawns should start with higher value NPCs in low truesec)

3) Supercapital docking bay GÇô upgrade to player stations, very expensive, that would turn player-built station into huge monsters that would make supercapital docking possible. Reason: now, only superskilled players with multiple accounts can afford locking one in supercapital ship. Docking supercaps would mean that regular players could fly one if needed, and still enjoy flying other ships. Also, this would definitely increase requests for supercaps and boost up economy.

4) Losing T3 should not cause losing skillpoints. T3 ships are now barely used in PVP because of this, only by superskilled players who donGÇÖt care about losing SPs on their 50+ mil accounts GÇô while beginners are afraid to fly T3 for anything else than PVE, as every skillpoint has high importance for them. Also, more frequent use of T3 ships in PVP would increase the trade in related commodities and increase the usage of W-space.

5) nullsec to nullsec wormholes should be much more frequently spawning and last for a couple of days.

All I can think of is that smaller alliances need to form up into larger coalitions, to take on and/or save the land they have. But that has a downfall. Eve is a sandbox and CCP has yet to give us a throttle button for other players that drive us to drink. Coalitions are full of diplomacy that make the United Nations look like a playground. It's herding cats, at it's best and worst. You have to deal with those that know what they are doing, and those that are petty egomaniacs but ultimately full of fail.

Gank miners in empire to make nullsec mining worthwhile again.

have you guys thought about finding one of them active highsec mining corps, maybe blue'n em up and moving them to 0.0 to shoot?

Hi, what i think - the 4 high end anomalies per system dragged a lot of people to nullsec. When it was cancelled, many people found out there is nothing for them. Hunters who enjoyed catching deadspace fitted tengu in anomaly now fly through dead systems just to come to one with so many anoms that chance to pick the right one with tengu in it, is significantly small. Also, i have the feeling that exiting warp now takes longer than before - i noticed sometimes last 1 AU of warp takes 30 secs in dual nano curse!!! (do you have the same experience?). Simply theres not so much fun for many kinds of people in nullsec. I met R&K member who remembered old days when they were hunting carebears in Vale and Geminate , he said that they often caught several tengus a day, but now its a difficult thing as ratters are concentrated in distant, bubbled and well protected systems. So my ideas are actually to improve the funny part, besides the blob support improvement that is needed as well.

1) Change in anomalies GÇô current state supports people concentrating in few systems with good truesec, while majority of systems are empty because useless GÇô meaning 0.0 is actually less profitable than empire space. I would suggest:
-0.0 to -0.2: 2 high-end anomalies per system
-0.3 to -0.6: 4 high end anomalies per system
-0.7 to -1.0: 8 high end anomalies per system
(flying solo or small gang pvp is frustrating now, you just fly 20 empty systems where is nobody and then you come to one terribly bubbled and inhabitated by so many people, that engaging one results 20 other come to help once they find out you are alone)

2) Value of good truesec systems should be in belts GÇô belt NPCs should drop significantly more loot and salvage compared to anomaly / mission NPCs, also chaining should start with much better NPCs in low truesec systems (so no need to shoot BC + frig spawns to get 1.85 mil BS spawns, spawns should start with higher value NPCs in low truesec)

3) Supercapital docking bay GÇô upgrade to player stations, very expensive, that would turn player-built station into huge monsters that would make supercapital docking possible. Reason: now, only superskilled players with multiple accounts can afford locking one in supercapital ship. Docking supercaps would mean that regular players could fly one if needed, and still enjoy flying other ships. Also, this would definitely increase requests for supercaps and boost up economy.

4) Losing T3 should not cause losing skillpoints. T3 ships are now barely used in PVP because of this, only by superskilled players who donGÇÖt care about losing SPs on their 50+ mil accounts GÇô while beginners are afraid to fly T3 for anything else than PVE, as every skillpoint has high importance for them. Also, more frequent use of T3 ships in PVP would increase the trade in related commodities and increase the usage of W-space.

5) nullsec to nullsec wormholes should be much more frequently spawning and last for a couple of days.

We do not need more supercaps in this game, there are already to many. Some one else was talking about how a fleet with 30+ super, 30 carriers, and 50 subcaps is unbeatable. There should not be enough supers in the game to field 30+ of them in a single fight, and the fact that people do is one reason 0.0 is broken. I like a station service to dock supers, but it should make them more vulnerable as a trade off(an attacking fleet should be able to pop the service, taking out any super docked in the process, more easily than they can take out any of the existing services)

The rest is gold, but the other 2 points need work to avoid turning more veteran players into powerhouses, and making nullsec back into the elitist jerk territory it was when BoB ruled.

You like most EVE players dont really read do you?A 100 man gang with 30 supers in it,is beatable by another larger supercap gang.It is not beatable by 200 canes and i think its normal.Why on earth a nnice 30x20 BIL gang should be touched by a 200x50MIL gang?
0.0 guys always ***** about blobs just because they are blobers themselves.Its the sov game mechanic itself that makes it this way and lets not forget how coward the actual players are.In the 3,5 years i play this there were only a handfull of entities that took a fight vastly outnumbered and flew something more expensive than a cane.
The only problem with the supercap nerf is that if you belong to a small entity willing to risk to get good kills with only a handfull of people,you wont be able to do it after the patch...You ll have to go melt your brain keeping a titan at "range" for gf's

Examples:
Personal favourities include things like hacking into infrastructure, to gain access to content and features contained therein. You could hack into a POS, gain access to floating ships, POS hangars and moon-material storage silos or simply turn the miners off so it stops producing income. You could hack into sov-control modules to disrupt system-wide bonuses, or you could hack into stations, disrupting station services - forcing an equally time-consuming response where PvE-minded players repair the damage done - leaving your actions open to counter-action and further interaction beyond. Most of these things can already be done with vast force and resources, but can easily be shifted over into smaller gang operations that are less damaging and more interesting both for free roaming and for strategic objective oriented use of smaller entities in larger conflicts (you have the shiptypes: blackops, recons etc., give them the missions beyond removing cyno-inhibitors, which they are not very potent at anyway). Bad RL-examples will remain bad, but you get the gist of it i imagine.

The best way for you guys to help the " sandbox " as you so call it is