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Matrim of Manetheren
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 21:42:00 -
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Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Keep in mind that's 20% Bounty from the Individual, Corp, and Alliance Level. So If someone has all 3 of those Bounties and gets killed in a Billion ISK Ship then that's 200mill from each level = 600 mill earned total. Then you could pod him and then get another payout.
I'm liking the Bounty System so far myself.
I'm not sure that this is the case, I think that the different levels take priority on each other, so it's personal bounty>corp bounty>alliance bounty. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 22:16:00 -
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Matrim of Manetheren wrote:The bounty system IS broken by design.
In the trailer we see someone putting a huge bounty on another person and then everyone being "after him".
This is NOT how it works in game.
You are awarded only 20% of the ship value, so if you kill someone with a trillion bounty in a drake, you will get... 10 mill.
Nobody is going to chase you for such a trivial amount. For someone to become worthy of chasing, they need to fly a ship that costs at least 1 billion, and even that is on the low side...
Bounty hunting is also broken, since to kill a powerful ship you usually need an equally powerful ship, but you are awarded only 20% of the value of the ship destroyed, so you will need to win 6 out of 7 engagements to be on the positive, which simply won't work. Another options is to fly inexpensive ships like Hurricane and try to kill expensive targets, which could work but it's inefficient.
Also, since we figured out that 20% of ship value is not enough to gank for in high sec, where does the bounty matter ? Low and Null are shoot first, ask questions later...
What the current system has is the potential to grief people who didn't do anything, since they can't easily remove the bounty without wasting too much ISK. The people who actually deserve the bounty won't care about it anyway.
Make the payoff 50% or 75% instead of 20%. I'm guessing that it's 20% because a higher payoff will have bigger potential for abuse, but I'm sure you could find a way to deal with it.
This should be easy enough, all of the necessary mechanics are in place, just a few numbers need to be tweaked.
Because if you Bounty a player and they insure their ship, then anything over 20% is potentially going to count as a return for them if they pod themselves.
The plus side, is currently you can go out and get bounties on you and your Corp mates, buy insurance, and supplement the cost of doing in-corporation PvP while collecting each others bounties and off-setting the insurance cost with the 20% bounty going to a Corp mate.
Actually, I think that is rather cool.
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Count Lucius Mollari
Taxillus Transstellar
Applied Integrated Enterprises in Space
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:10:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:The plus side, is currently you can go out and get bounties on you and your Corp mates, buy insurance, and supplement the cost of doing in-corporation PvP while collecting each others bounties and off-setting the insurance cost with the 20% bounty going to a Corp mate.
Actually, I think that is rather cool.
Cool?!?!?!?! That is frick'in brilliant! Get the bounties off corp-mates and supplement training exercise costs? Awesome! |
Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:33:00 -
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I don't see your problem.
If I want it anonymous, I use a service or a throw away char. But in most cases I just don't like that son of a ... and I want him to know that I was the one who wants to collect his head. If he has done something to me like ganking I can put a 20 million bounty on him and sell the killright for 2 million. If he pays back and places a bounty on my head? who cares. Doesn't have killrights on me and if get war dect, so be it.
Those War Targets would should me anyway (or try it).
At as often mentioned: It is all about consequences! If you place a bounty on that guy / Corp / Alliance, deal with the consequences! |
Count Lucius Mollari
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:03:00 -
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Warning/Notification is the crux of the issue, it seems. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:46:00 -
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1.) Why do bounties need to be placed anonymously? I don't particularly see a reason for this.... but there are ways around it. Some players are starting "Place a bounty services", not to mention you can use an alt to obfuscate the bounty placer.
2.) The retribution trailer shows a 60 billion isk bounty... and he's flying a Widow... which, when fit up with only moderate bling, is easily worth over a billion... That 200m isk payout is enough to encourage even highsec suicide gank of his ship! How is this not working for you? |
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