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Wyke Mossari Staner Industries 350	Posted - 2012.12.07 20:31:00 - [1] - Quote There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode
Surfin's PlunderBunny The Python Cartel. 4091	Posted - 2012.12.09 22:46:00 - [2] - Quote Also stations "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 465	Posted - 2012.12.11 09:37:00 - [3] - Quote I've been told the Titan has been blown up there atleast once before I tried to orginize an combined shield armour/shield Incursion MOM fleet to attack it too but had some issues broughtup by the community Ironic-áfact: In the future the pirates and PVPers will likely have no bounties on them, while the risk averse carebears will run around with "wanted" marked across their face.
Saede Riordan Alexylva Paradox 2531	Posted - 2012.12.11 16:13:00 - [4] - Quote The titan has never been blown up. imo, I think it should have the exact same tank as a player titan. Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul

CCP Falcon 1371	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:19:00 - [5] - Quote There's a lot of things that could be done with it, but in the same respect it's a huge and world shaping event for it to be removed. It's something that would have to tie in with high level political backstory :) CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents -- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea --

Saede Riordan Alexylva Paradox 2534	Posted - 2012.12.12 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: There's a lot of things that could be done with it, but in the same respect it's a huge and world shaping event for it to be removed. It's something that would have to tie in with high level political backstory :) Why not incorporate the whole sandbox emergent gameplay thing into it? I mean, Federation capsuleers taking it upon themselves to blow up the titan and shift the political situation would be a pretty cool to be able say really happened in your PF. Its something the NPCs didn't expect, and it changes the political landscape in interesting ways, by making it destructible, the players themselves cause that change. Let the fiction come 'off the rails' a bit. Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
Aquila Shadow Templis Dragonaors 20	Posted - 2012.12.12 15:08:00 - [7] - Quote One major problem with making the titan destructible is that the second any federation loyalists start to shoot at it, it is a licence for State loyalists to RP the systematic genocide of every single Gallente on the face of Caldari Prime, the whole reason the titan is sitting in orbit was to keep Federal forces from trying to re-take the planet by pointing the biggest guns possible at the now segregated federal citizens still on the planet. They are essentially human shields against Federal attack. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á"Let Vigilance Be Your Sword"
Dex Nederland Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District 73	Posted - 2012.12.13 15:20:00 - [8] - Quote Aquila Shadow wrote: One major problem with making the titan destructible is that the second any federation loyalists start to shoot at it, it is a licence for State loyalists to RP the systematic genocide of every single Gallente on the face of Caldari Prime, the whole reason the titan is sitting in orbit was to keep Federal forces from trying to re-take the planet by pointing the biggest guns possible at the now segregated federal citizens still on the planet. They are essentially human shields against Federal attack. Another way to think of it is "If we can't have it, no one will!" The other option is that it offers the Gallente a trade, homeworld for homeworld. Which of these I prefer from a story perspective, I am not sure. Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 89	Posted - 2012.12.13 17:04:00 - [9] - Quote If the Titan is made destructible you're going to need a fair way for Caldari loyal forces to defend it as well. Many of those who would, have bad Gallente standings or are enlisted in FW making a fight in Luminaire out of the question. It would hardly be fair to let the thing be shot and those who want to defend it can't even intervene because of the OP Navy in a 1.0 system. "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
Seriphyn Inhonores Soltueur Company 255	Posted - 2012.12.14 12:38:00 - [10] - Quote In terms of "fairness", looking from a live events perspective, the world was effectively godmoded for the benefit of the Caldari. If, say, the world was won back via a live event, I would suspect a gnashing of teeth even if Caldari players didn't "earn" the world in the first place.
Dex Nederland Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District 73	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:19:00 - [11] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: In terms of "fairness", looking from a live events perspective, the world was effectively godmoded for the benefit of the Caldari. If, say, the world was won back via a live event, I would suspect a gnashing of teeth even if Caldari players didn't "earn" the world in the first place. To counter, if the Federation, through its capsuleers, regained the world, would there be the possibility for the Caldari, through its capsuleers, to once again take it? I suppose this goes to a larger question of the importance of these live events to the overall tapestry of Eve's storyline. If the end result of the event is pre-ordained, the actions of the players do not really matter. The Caldari players did not ask for the results of Empyrean Age, quiet the opposite. The Caldari roleplayers at the time were vocally dismayed by the direction the storyline took. The deus ex machina (godmodding) that created the current Caldari situation left many with a bad taste in their mouth, some abandoned the State, some abandoned RP, some abandoned Eve-Online. In effect, the storyline's progression and the reconquest of Caldari Prime by the Caldari in the above fashion was to the immediate determinate of Caldari roleplay. This does not however mean that reversing will help restore the previous state; I suspect it would only cause more problems for the Caldari roleplay community. Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Estella Osoka Deep Void Merc Syndicate 0	Posted - 2012.12.16 16:51:00 - [12] - Quote How about if Gallente FW were able to capture all the systems in their FW area, it would make the Leviathan go into a vulnerable state and allow it to be destroyed? Then a new Leviathan would respawn at downtime in another system. You could put a similar titan in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space also. You could have each titan drop faction BPCs kinda like the MOM in an Incursion site.
Dex Nederland Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District 74	Posted - 2012.12.18 02:35:00 - [13] - Quote The destruction of the State Leviathan over Caldari Prime should be a single world changing event; not something farmed. If the intent is to create a more dynamic storyline, then should the Titan be destroyed (or even just retreat back to the State), it should stay there. Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Call Rollard K For Kill 9	Posted - 2012.12.19 20:42:00 - [14] - Quote Seems interesting. Here is what I think should happen. in YC115... 1) The Luminare Titan is destructible but has masses of HP. 2) Lots of Caldari NPC's defenders should be there 3) Lots of Gallente NPC's defend there. 4) Gallente and Caldari FW players get there to defend/attack the titan. 5) Finally the titan gets destroyed and EVE's story progresses. 6) Lots of stuff happens in EVE. Maybe that should happen
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 94	Posted - 2012.12.20 13:20:00 - [15] - Quote Dex Nederland wrote: The destruction of the State Leviathan over Caldari Prime should be a single world changing event; not something farmed. If the intent is to create a more dynamic storyline, then should the Titan be destroyed (or even just retreat back to the State), it should stay there. I have to agree with Dex on this one, if the Titan is going to be destroyed/forced to leaved it should be a large event that changes the story in some way, not something that happens and goes nowhere. No respawning the Titan either, if it dies it dies. We're not going to have a new mode of PVE where you hunt and kill Titans. Call Rollard wrote: Seems interesting. Here is what I think should happen. in YC115... 1) The Luminare Titan is destructible but has masses of HP. 2) Lots of Caldari NPC's defenders should be there 3) Lots of Gallente NPC's defend there. 4) Gallente and Caldari FW players get there to defend/attack the titan. 5) Finally the titan gets destroyed and EVE's story progresses. 6) Lots of stuff happens in EVE. Maybe that should happen 1. I'm fine with this, but it needs to be made known to both sides ahead of time. 2. Once again fine with this 3. Again fine with this, however the normal NPC's which spawn in a 1.0 system to attack criminals and FW players should not be there, they're pretty much impossible to tank (not tried a fleet with logi) and have very strong neuts. 4. Sounds fine but there also needs to be a way for non-militia Caldari corporations and alliances to defend the Titan (other than just repairing it) 5. If the Titan dies and the story goes that way sure, though it should be noted that Heth is pretty twisted and if he knew the Titan was going to die I would have no doubts he would give the order to fire on Caldari Prime killing those Gallente down there. 6. Could do with more elaboration :p "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 27	Posted - 2012.12.20 14:08:00 - [16] - Quote Well.... there is a RP way to stop No 5. Occuring..... While the game doesn't have it, simply put up a shield of ships between the Titan and the Planet. Any shots the titan then fires would be taken by one of the ships in the way, so the question would be if the Titan could be taken down before it blasts a hole in the protective ships and can fire on the planet.... Assuming the order is actually given to commit genocide, and the Titans captain then proceeds to actually follow through with the order rather than refusing it.
Wyke Mossari Staner Industries 360	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote The question of iff the Titan get to fire at the planet could also be judged in relation to the action of the attacking players. Perhaps a Dozen Celestis locking it down with Sensor Dampers, while drawing fire from the defending NPC's, survial and success judged keeping surficient alive with Support Cruisers.
Aquila Shadow Templis Dragonaors 21	Posted - 2012.12.21 05:10:00 - [18] - Quote Wyke Mossari wrote: The question of iff the Titan get to fire at the planet could also be judged in relation to the action of the attacking players. Perhaps a Dozen Celestis locking it down with Sensor Dampers, while drawing fire from the defending NPC's, survial and success judged keeping surficient alive with Support Cruisers. Titan laugh at punny attempt to EWAR a super capital. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword"
Andreus Ixiris Mixed Metaphor 1306	Posted - 2012.12.23 05:07:00 - [19] - Quote Heavy interdictor infinipoint still works on a supercapital. That would ensure the only planet it could fire at would be Caldari Prime. Mane 614
Vikarion Yulai Syndicate 82	Posted - 2012.12.23 14:06:00 - [20] - Quote Dex Nederland wrote: This does not however mean that reversing will help restore the previous state; I suspect it would only cause more problems for the Caldari roleplay community. Yeah, if CCP decides to just "whee, Federation retakes CP!", I think Caldari RPers might as well just quit. We've already been turned into space na-zis, if we're going to have our faction made completely incompetent, well, we should probably just shrug and re-roll with Gallente characters.
Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 405	Posted - 2012.12.23 14:43:00 - [21] - Quote I read that most people picked Caldari when racial bonuses were applicable. No harm in selling your toon via the forum and replacing it with a faction-toon that fits your modern day needs. Get in the van, park it over there.
Dex Nederland Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District 82	Posted - 2012.12.24 15:51:00 - [22] - Quote Borascus wrote: I read that most people picked Caldari when racial bonuses were applicable. No harm in selling your toon via the forum and replacing it with a faction-toon that fits your modern day needs. Lots of players picked Achura when racial bonuses were applicable. I highly suspect the number of roleplayers who picked Caldari did not do so with the racial bonuses in mind, but were attracted to the backgrounds presented. Many of these characters are our mains, they are not mission/capital alts. Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 405	Posted - 2012.12.24 16:49:00 - [23] - Quote This is an understandable point Dex, although, the history presented was "in-line" with the available propaganda. If the official mandate presents different facets of history, my choice would be to simply corroborate the lifestyle choice with material of the time. Choosing "when I was younger, the State sought ..." or "Little do you realise that even though the State may be portrayed as monsters in the current climate" There is no arguable reason that simple retroactive continuity should infringe your in-game persona, its counter-intuitive to have a live action theme with a landlocked script. Although, whatever any roleplayers have chosen previously is accepted as their wish, not something I seek to change. With one roll of the dice, the stage was set. Scenery changes were commonplace..... Get in the van, park it over there.
Rammes lol USMG ExFor 12	Posted - 2013.01.04 08:31:00 - [24] - Quote Late post Ok letGÇÖs look at it this way put a time limit on the attack say down time to down time or X amount of hours. Say itGÇÖs a rebellion with defense NPC if the missions does not get completed by X amount of hours it is mission fail and it stays. If it dies mission success a weak would stay in place for historical reasons and LP points are given to all on kill mail (not sure how it would be split due to a lot of people would show in random fleets) or it would given to the corp. as a lump sum and if you in an NPC corp. you are SOL at lest you had fun. To implement this it can be put in a story line mission that shows up on everyoneGÇÖs mission board, Everyone has a chance to accept it or not but do to the limit of people in system would limit the amount of people on the kill mail. So it would be more of a 1st come 1st sever witch in my option is one of the fairest ways to do something of this scale.
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 1067	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:54:00 - [25] - Quote I'm sure there's some Caldari in there sick and tired of the Provost extremism and who just want to go home. Who's to say a few won't accidentally the whole targeting system and tank system for 15 minutes to allow people to shoot it?...Just a thought. -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Henry Montclaire 42nd Devils and Dragons Dalek Asylum 25	Posted - 2013.01.09 02:56:00 - [26] - Quote I think that to really do it justice it should be tied in with Dust514. I believe CCP has stated that they would like to expand Dust in the future to involve space stations, or large space ships. Having the debut of that expansion be a one-time battle for the Luminaire Titan might be a really exciting way to integrate the games together into the wider lore.
Fearghaz Tiwas ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL 0	Posted - 2013.01.11 12:00:00 - [27] - Quote What about having it set so that attacking the Leviathan triggers an incursion like event, where the leviathan sets up a jump bridge for Caldari pilots to jump in. This triggers a war where the gallente have a set period of time to kill the Leviathan or else all their people on the planet surface are massacred. I've never done faction warfare, but I reckon this could be pretty cool.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1640	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:38:00 - [28] - Quote I would support a major world-shaping event around the Titan.... It shouldn't be a static structure though... It should be a world event were CCP actually flies the titan, has a CCP support fleet (which includes a triage carrier or two), and gives the titan a lowsec-DD capable of one-shotting Aeons. Have them make a call out to all Amarr and Caldari militia for support too make a fun and interesting brawl!

CCP Falcon 2103	Posted - 2013.01.12 13:58:00 - [29] - Quote There's currently a few ideas being thrown around internally for how we can do this, and there's discussion going on so that I can kind of gauge what can be planned and organized. If something does happen though, we want it to be a surprise, and we want it to be a truly epic, world shaping event that will echo through the ages in New Eden. So yes, we're considering things, but I'm not going to say what. Feel free to keep speculating CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á Live Events Organizer @CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents

Wyke Mossari Staner Industries 422	Posted - 2013.01.12 14:03:00 - [30] - Quote Yeh, This is a really cool development. Some thing to consider a way to measure the success, how much ecm, sensor daming is used governs how much time the attacker have to kill the Titan before it starts inflicting casualties on the planet. More ECM make the shots less accurate with an increased risk of collateral damage to Caldari population. Less is increased casualties to the Gallente population.

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