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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.05.24 07:51:00 -
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Or is it so hard to believe there's more to life than freeing slaves?
Nah, slicing throats of caldari getting used using slaves would be a nice distraction.
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.05.24 09:12:00 -
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Pat isn't as well known for his diplomatic tomes so let me add some spice to that assumption.
All free minmatar know there is more to life than killing slavers, since most minmatar do not actually engage in what we do anyway. Do they harbour hatred for slavers? I'm pretty sure a large number do.
I have little family left because of this foul trade. My father died of Vitoc, my mother died of grief. My life long friend was seduced by the Ammatar ways and later betrayed me to them. I nearly fell victim to Vitoc myself, a thought that still makes me shudder in a quiet moment. In his mad persuit to bring me his so called 'enlightenment', my new blood enemy attempted twice to murder me, the first time killing my half brother Kordan in my stead.
With such a history of torment, it is hard not to see anything else than freeing slaves and killing those that hold them in chains. I have little else to distract me from that end. But I do know there is more to life. I see friends like Maggot enjoy a healthy family life full of joy. Zoolkhan partakes in various pleasurable activities, that I shall not go into, most evenings. It is a shame that the slaves of the Amarr, Ammatar and Khanid have not the means to do the things many people take for granted though. I think many people find that hard to believe too.
There is a difference my young Caldari, between knowing the different paths one can take in life, and choosing which paths one wishes to follow. We have chosen a life devoted to liberation of our people, and the others slaves. Remember that many slaves are Gallente and even Caldari in origin. Those sold into slavery by pirates, accepted and trained by the Ammatar, and purchased by wealthy Amarrians to do their bidding. There are even Amarr slaves, holders who have fallen from grace and homeless people with little defence. That is my life, and the life of my fellow warriors. We do not blind ourselves to the vastness of oppertunity in life, we simply walk our own path.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.24 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ly''sol on 24/05/2005 10:04:55
Ullia,
If you have been observing the talks as thoroughly as I have, there has been all manner of attempts to win your favor, to uses of deception by the Blood Raiders to draw you out into the open, to our country men appealing to your sense of loyalty and duty, the arrogant and insulting chidings of the CVA, and finally to the evocative and emotional pleadings of the Minmatar.
Out of all of these parties, they all have something to gain from it directly. Thus it creates a conflict of interest from all parties involved. I canÆt stress enough emphasis that it is to get your person and the prototype to a production that is completely neutral, and that neither of the sides would dare to attack without reprisal. All we want to do is to provide you a means to an end.
The organization IÆm speaking of has spent billions in vitoc antidotes as they become available, and dedicate in one of their goals to help rehabilitate those affected by vitoc. Many of the Minmatar know of them. Some donÆt. But what better place to produce and refine the prototype in a facility that has been attempting to do what you have done for years and is of course has nothing to gain from it but the betterment of making the world a little better. They helped me with my own problems. And they have helped several thousands of people as well. If you havenÆt contacted anyone yet, take them into consideration. And have your would be protectors take you to them.
Star Fraction has no use for the prototype. We see a man looking for the sanctuary to fulfill his purpose. We can provide it and our offer stands. I am reluctant to say who his benefactors would be for security reasons, but they are there for the greater good. And those who know of the corporerations I speak of, knows of thier deeds.
I am looking at the situation with a rational mind and watching carefully what becomes of you. Good Luck, Researcher Hnolku.
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.05.24 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 24/05/2005 14:42:37
Edited by: KhanJohn on 24/05/2005 14:25:46
i think someone else said it best when...."it doesnt matter whether the cure is found today and released or not, because now that people know that it exists it wont be long till its released anyway"
Oh and to DEV LARRAN - Be careful who you insult calling us all imbeciles is not the most diplomatic way to debate a discussion...
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Makkar
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Posted - 2005.05.24 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus
Let me provide an example:
Dr. Hnolku is arrested by State authorities who bribe/bully your shaky Republic into allowing his extradition.
Following this, you and your comrades discover the route of the prison ship he and the cure are being transported on. Would you hijack or destroy the ship in order to either obtain the cure for yourselves or stop it from falling into the "wrong" hands?
I know that you have said that action on your part would be decided by a council vote, but I somehow doubt that you would allow the key to the freedom of millions of your people to slip through your fingers like that.
I can't see any of us being so stupid as to take the risk of destroying the cure. Things like advanced Caldari-engineered technology have a habit of... erm... finding their way into Minmatar hands sooner or later anyway. We've got some very resourceful kinsmen. The cure falling into Caldari hands would mean little more than a delay in it's aquisition.
After shaking hands with a Thukker, the wise man counts his fingers, as the saying goes.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.05.24 14:32:00 -
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The Doctor has said he has made his decision. It is amazing how many people so suddenly become concerned with my peoples freedom isnt it? Where are they when we fight every day for it?
However
Originally by: Ly'sol
Out of all of these parties, they all have something to gain from it directly.
I would like to know what, directly, we stand to gain from this.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
Oh and to DEV LARRAN - Be careful who you insult calling us all imbeciles is not the most diplomatic way to debate a discussion...
Originally by: The Patriarch
, slicing throats of caldari getting used using slaves would be a nice distraction.
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Dev Larren
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Posted - 2005.05.24 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dev Larren on 24/05/2005 17:08:29
Originally by: KhanJohn
Edited by: KhanJohn on 24/05/2005 14:42:37
Edited by: KhanJohn on 24/05/2005 14:25:46
Oh and to DEV LARRAN - Be careful who you insult calling us all imbeciles is not the most diplomatic way to debate a discussion...
You are right it lacked diplomacy. I should not put down expressions of opinion so thoughtlessly especially when my remark was really only directed at the less reasoned contributions that taunted the doctor about the fate of his wife etc... I retract the comment in the case of those who have made reasoned comments.
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Logoz Peres
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Posted - 2005.05.24 19:23:00 -
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The Blood Raiders now claim to have the drug and Dr. Hnolku's wife. Something must be done quick!
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Kyrii Eleison
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Posted - 2005.05.24 20:21:00 -
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Oh yes. This entire situation shall be dealt with. Soon.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.05.24 20:22:00 -
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Oh excellent, this really is priceless. If the Blood Raiders really do have that stuff it makes me a very happy man. Time to go raiding I think.
And, like of said on many occasion, slaving doesn't bother me. I get a few off the Blood Raiders, who seem to have many and I shove most of them in a shuttle and tell them to **** off, only keeping a small number around to maintain my ships in these busy times. As I don't have many, it's easier to keep them in good condition. They'll lose their efficiency in awhile so I replace them with more. All slaves in my care are well maintained I tell you, and all eventually go to freedom in exchange for a little work.
There, happy now?
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.05.24 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Kovsky
Originally by: Gaius Kador
I will eat your liver.
I've only read some of Amarr's wacky religious tracts in my "superstitions of primitive societies" class at the tech school, but I'm pretty sure that there wasn't anything about eating one's enemies' livers in there...
Naturally not. It is no part of orthodox Amarrian religious practice to consume the organs of a fellow human being. However, as I have long pointed out, the CVA is a nest of renegades and heretics. It is full of misfits and misbegots and the ravings of Gaius Kador are further evidence of the bizarre perversions of Amarrian faith practised within its ranks.
As to the Blood Raiders releasing the drug: so much the better that a programme aimed at destablisation of the old orders be the guiding principle behind the release of this compound across the cluster. I endorse any and all actions leading to chaos within the Amarrian Empire.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction - Executor CEO: Jade Constantine |
Makotar
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Posted - 2005.05.24 21:33:00 -
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To the good doctor, It pleases my corp that you have escaped your pursuit. Indeed, although this poor soul is Amarr in nature, our corp has taken from the strengths of all four races. Some are of the race that your drug will help free, and they burn to be of assistance. All of us here, the Silent Service, offer our hand in any venture, be it hiding, helping, researching and developing. Furthurmore, should you use the services of any other corporation, be it known you only have to call, and our group will come the call, day or night. Best wishes and fast sailing to you, Dr Ullia.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.05.24 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 24/05/2005 22:07:41
Most minmatar are born outside the Republic, as was I.
I was raised by...a certain Caldari corperation.
The state, I agree, is a good idea. However, of late some of it's corperations seem to be focusing on the greater good of themselves over the greater good of the State. I see this misguided chase by certain fanatical elements of Caldari society of a scientist as distressing, although I certainly agree that there will be little good in his surrender to forces which will almost certainly destroy him and drug for no return whatsover.
The Blood Raiders are likely to release the drug in any case, and this makes the chase pointless and worse. If we are to do anything, we should focus on rescuing a certain Caldari citizen from the Blood Raiders.
Doctor, while I cannot promise anything for my corperation, I would offer MY services, should you wish them, on any strike against the Blood Raiders.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Derran
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Posted - 2005.05.25 02:37:00 -
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Mr. Hnolku:
While it appears your decision may have been made, I think circumstances may have arisen that could have altered your frame of mind.
I am not a businessman, wise man, philosopher or someone who has a strong political agenda. And while I also can not pretend to speak on behalf of my corporation or even for my people, I am not without my influences or without resources, monetary or otherwise. But I know those I work with and I know they think as I do and like myself, I know they would be proud to render any assistance you require. Why, you may ask, would I and my associates want to help and why should you request help from me? The answer is simple and you think you already know it. It is the reason you appear to be asking for help. Because it is the right thing to do.
I am known amongst not just the Ushra'Khan but also Curatores Veritatis Alliance, who in their own way, have expressed their recognition of my character. Both of them know that I would not go back on my word. But I do not offer my assistance freely. The only thing I ask for you to do is to keep to your word as I will keep to mine.
I want what you want. What everyone wants and has a right to. I want the freedom to choose one's fate returned to my people. As I said, it is the right thing to do.
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Judas Kirk
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Posted - 2005.05.25 04:08:00 -
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The way I see it, slavery is a grave crime against the human race. I would see the formulae for the cure, if it is a cure, published and out in the open for all to see. This is too valuable to leave in the hands of few individuals. To the Ushra'Khan, I have deep sympathies for your people, and I will do what I can to assist. The Amarr empire will not fall, but a great evil will be purged from it. I believe in the strengthening of all humanity, and this drug will certainly do that.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.05.25 04:44:00 -
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Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 25/05/2005 08:57:55
Xav Vorbarra grins in triumph as he reads the news, excitement lighting up his face as he pumps his fist, clutching a crimson sickle into the air
Yeeesss, finally, if these rumours are true it makes me very, very happy. Victory for Sani Sabik!
An Amarrian flag burns brightly in the backround
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.05.25 07:22:00 -
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if these rumours are true it makes me very, very happy. Victory for Sani Sabik!
Mrs. Hnolku could have been carrying a possible second copy of the Insorum prototype, Zainou Biotech officials have given the answer that theoretically, the drug may have been replicated before the two scientists eloped from Zainou headquarters in Isseras.
Hold yr Caldari horses, nothing has been verified yet nor an official statement has prove either. Slavery will end one way or the other, history has proven.
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.05.25 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Tar Kovsky
Originally by: Gaius Kador
I will eat your liver.
I've only read some of Amarr's wacky religious tracts in my "superstitions of primitive societies" class at the tech school, but I'm pretty sure that there wasn't anything about eating one's enemies' livers in there...
Naturally not. It is no part of orthodox Amarrian religious practice to consume the organs of a fellow human being. However, as I have long pointed out, the CVA is a nest of renegades and heretics. It is full of misfits and misbegots and the ravings of Gaius Kador are further evidence of the bizarre perversions of Amarrian faith practised within its ranks.
As to the Blood Raiders releasing the drug: so much the better that a programme aimed at destablisation of the old orders be the guiding principle behind the release of this compound across the cluster. I endorse any and all actions leading to chaos within the Amarrian Empire.
The Cosmopolite
Note that the phrase "I will eat your liver" has at least two seperate meanings.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.05.25 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Tar Kovsky
Originally by: Gaius Kador
I will eat your liver.
I've only read some of Amarr's wacky religious tracts in my "superstitions of primitive societies" class at the tech school, but I'm pretty sure that there wasn't anything about eating one's enemies' livers in there...
Naturally not. It is no part of orthodox Amarrian religious practice to consume the organs of a fellow human being. However, as I have long pointed out, the CVA is a nest of renegades and heretics. It is full of misfits and misbegots and the ravings of Gaius Kador are further evidence of the bizarre perversions of Amarrian faith practised within its ranks.
As to the Blood Raiders releasing the drug: so much the better that a programme aimed at destablisation of the old orders be the guiding principle behind the release of this compound across the cluster. I endorse any and all actions leading to chaos within the Amarrian Empire.
The Cosmopolite
Note that the phrase "I will eat your liver" has at least two seperate meanings.
So it does but context is everything. I find it hard to believe that Gaius Kador was threatening to raid Omir Sarikusa's stockpile of liver pate and other assorted offal products. (Most of which will be of human origin in any case.) I suspect the other subscribers to this GalNet channel will find it equally hard to believe that Kador was strangely moved to rage against the meat larder of the good Cardinal.
The phrase "shovelling it" has a couple of meanings also. I believe that once more context shows which is most applicable to your rather amusing attempt to cover the heretical barkings of Kador.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction - Executor CEO: Jade Constantine |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.05.25 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
the meat larder of the good Cardinal.
You describe a member of the Blood Raider cult as good? How very interesting.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.05.25 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Omir Sarikusa
I'll relay your stance to your lovely wife.
Do you drop good loot? 
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Plague Black
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Posted - 2005.05.25 13:39:00 -
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Mr. Hnolku,
You only fool yourself by believing some big corp will help you save the universe. Those capsuleer egomaniacs are all after isk or fame, nothing more, nothing less. I can not promise to protect you, but I can help you disapear and start over. For a certain fee, naturally. And you can keep your your 'cure' as I have no interest in it... Just isk or fame, as I already stated.
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Mah Kraah
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Posted - 2005.05.25 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Plague Black
Mr. Hnolku,
You only fool yourself by believing some big corp will help you save the universe. Those capsuleer egomaniacs are all after isk or fame, nothing more, nothing less. I can not promise to protect you, but I can help you disapear and start over. For a certain fee, naturally. And you can keep your your 'cure' as I have no interest in it... Just isk or fame, as I already stated.
who are u, to be able to judge the motivations of ppl and groupes u never met,worked with or against?
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.05.25 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Graelyn on 25/05/2005 14:36:25
That's the world that he, and 90% of all pod pilots live in.
Isn't it sad?  Few will ever know what we know.
That being rich and famous part though, sounds kinda nice....
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Crash Overaz
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Posted - 2005.05.25 14:43:00 -
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So has the doctor revealed who his chosen party will be?
Will he select the Ushra'Kahn? they have my bet.
With his wife now captured and being drained of blood, will his ethics be strengthened or weakned?
Where is the good doctor hiding? We havent heard from him for a long time!
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.05.25 14:43:00 -
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Characteristically Caldari Problem
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Plague Black
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Posted - 2005.05.25 15:13:00 -
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Quote:
who are u, to be able to judge the motivations of ppl and groupes u never met,worked with or against?
A realist. Someone who does not walk trough life wearing pink glasses. Call it Caldari curse if you like. For me it's a blessing. I'm the man he needs, not some hot headed 'freedom fighter' or religious fanatic.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.05.25 15:14:00 -
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You assume he still lives.
Minister - Public Affairs
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Jameth Litarka
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Posted - 2005.05.25 15:16:00 -
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It is a good thing that Dr. Hnolku has kept himself in hiding recently. Any more public appearences or posting to GALNET would only allow the Caldari, Amarrians and whoever else is hunting him to get a better idea of where he is hiding. Maintain a low profile, Dr. Hnolku. Your very life depends upon it.
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