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Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 78	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:36:00 - [1] - Quote Cheapest. Just wondering what price CCP considers to be the limit before they intervene like they said they would when AUR got introduced. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 74	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:39:00 - [2] - Quote dono, lets try 500m :)
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 78	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:41:00 - [3] - Quote Well, i give it one to two weeks before it hits that mark =) Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
Acwron Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote 500 mil til 06 Oct 6am Eve time :D
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 74	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:43:00 - [5] - Quote And how would they intervene? Treat us to another blog?
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 78	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:44:00 - [6] - Quote Plex promotions i'm guessing.. but its a good question. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
Ildur Amaenar Epidemic Inc. 18	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices. Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction.
Ildur Amaenar Epidemic Inc. 18	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:48:00 - [8] - Quote Think about it. CCP can produce as much ISK as they want. CCP can buy as much PLEX as they desire. It is an automated process, made by CCP alts related to specific software. It is simple, it is efficient. This way PLEX don`t drop and don`t rise.
Mukirana Crimoria Co Vera Cruz Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:48:00 - [9] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: Cheapest. Just wondering what price CCP considers to be the limit before they intervene like they said they would when AUR got introduced. "To infinity ... and beyond!" Yeah it's sad but there is no limit for the PLEX price. And I'm sure CCP will do nothing the counter the price rise.
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 93	Posted - 2011.10.05 23:58:00 - [10] - Quote I am betting this is due to people like myself who have never paid with plex, but are now unwilling to spend real money on this game until CCP fixes it, and are using our ISK stores to buy game time. Can't say for sure, but I am willing to bet that is one of the big reasons for a higher than usual demand.

Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 78	Posted - 2011.10.06 00:00:00 - [11] - Quote Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: I am betting this is due to people like myself who have never paid with plex, but are now unwilling to spend real money on this game until CCP fixes it, and are using our ISK stores to buy game time. Can't say for sure, but I am willing to bet that is one of the big reasons for a higher than usual demand. Yes. And all of that has to do with AUR. Or at least with the way it was designed. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
mkint 119	Posted - 2011.10.06 00:15:00 - [12] - Quote Didn't CCP do an early report that said like only 4 PLEXes were ever used for space-gold? No... PLEX prices reflect player confidence in CCP, nothing else. High prices = fewer people willing to pay real $ for EVE. The market can be manipulated by traders, but is dominated by subscribers.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 207	Posted - 2011.10.06 00:17:00 - [13] - Quote mkint wrote: Didn't CCP do an early report that said like only 4 PLEXes were ever used for space-gold? No... PLEX prices reflect player confidence in CCP, nothing else. High prices = fewer people willing to pay real $ for EVE. The market can be manipulated by traders, but is dominated by subscribers. Actually the spike could be people reactivating their alts... but without real data it is impossible to tell Forum fix for firefox and chrome Get working images and colored text Classic forum style 2.25final
Rene Fullchest Disgruntled Postal Workers Union 0	Posted - 2011.10.06 00:31:00 - [14] - Quote Every PLEX is paid for by someone. It may not be a "subscription", but it is certainly equivalent. Thus, while subscriptions may be down, the cash flow continues. The poster above that mentions '...without data..." is correct. Hilmar has information that none of us have and it is fallacy to make assumptions based on his observations without the same information. On topic, PLEX prices fluctuate, sometimes quickly. Next time it's low, and it will be, buy more than you need for a month at a time and enjoy either not worrying about it for a few months, or sell the excess for profit.
Tenchi Sal DeathStar Systems 10	Posted - 2011.10.06 01:26:00 - [15] - Quote inflation plays a part in it. money sinks in eve are pretty bad.
Sebero Sinak Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2011.10.06 01:37:00 - [16] - Quote Perhaps the type of player that financed themselves by selling a couple plexs and kept the supply side fed isn't as active now. If you check the isk sellers review graph the cost of isk has dropped - again used by players to finance themselves when they don't have time or alts. My guess is a guess . Players not around dropping cash (plexs) into the system.
Doctor Ungabungas GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:20:00 - [17] - Quote Ildur Amaenar wrote: CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices. Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction. How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time?
mechtech SRS Industries SRS. 30	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:24:00 - [18] - Quote Ildur Amaenar wrote: Think about it. CCP can produce as much ISK as they want. CCP can buy as much PLEX as they desire. It is an automated process, made by CCP alts related to specific software. It is simple, it is efficient. This way PLEX don`t drop and don`t rise. This is exactly what bothers me now, and it bothered me immediately after hearing CCP talk about "intervention". If CCP were to intervene by buying PLEX off of the market with isk they generated from thin air, they would literally be selling isk. We're not talking free to play NeX cash shop stuff, we're talking straight up isk selling. I wish CCP were more transparent about what they mean by intervening. In my eyes things like PLEX promotions are fine, but what I described above isn't.
Alina Wize Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 24	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:31:00 - [19] - Quote Doctor Ungabungas wrote: Ildur Amaenar wrote: CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices. Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction. How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time? Just give it some time, players are going to realize that the price is up and start purchasing them to sell on the market. Effectively driving the price back down. It's a perfect time for people who buy multiple plex at a discount in order to acquire isk. You also have to think about the people who rely on plex to play. They won't be able to afford inflated plex prices which will cause a saturation of plex that isn't getting consumed. This will draw prices back down as well but probably slowly. If ccp interferes and generates plex on the market to drive prices down I don't think they would tell us, at least not right away. I don't think they should interfere with the markets at all, that kind of ruins the idea of a sandbox game.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 208	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:32:00 - [20] - Quote Doctor Ungabungas wrote: Ildur Amaenar wrote: CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices. Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction. How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time? Players who have invested to plex sell their plex to get profit... price starts going down after the peak has reached... as with any other product. Also players who buy plex with real money to get iskies, tend to buy more plex when they get good price from them in in-game market... Plex price goes up and down... sometimes more, sometimes less... nothing new. Classic forum style - Images and colored text - Custom CQ videos

Doctor Ungabungas GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 11	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:35:00 - [21] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: Doctor Ungabungas wrote: Ildur Amaenar wrote: CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices. Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction. How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time? Players who have invested to plex sell their plex to get profit... price starts going down after the peak has reached... as with any other product. Also players who buy plex with real money to get iskies, tend to buy more plex when they get good price from them in in-game market... Plex price goes up and down... sometimes more, sometimes less... nothing new. See you say that, but it doesn't actually answer my question. How are CCP going to force lower prices without giving out free game time?
Thomas Abernathy Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:37:00 - [22] - Quote Ildur Amaenar wrote: Think about it. CCP can produce as much ISK as they want. CCP can buy as much PLEX as they desire. It is an automated process, made by CCP alts related to specific software. It is simple, it is efficient. This way PLEX don`t drop and don`t rise. Are you serious? CCP wants plex skyhigh, they are trying to push all the freeloaders into paying accounts...
Ramacliv RC Minerals and Salvage 0	Posted - 2011.10.06 02:42:00 - [23] - Quote Actually you are all a bit right and wrong. Higher plex prices in game means that it is more attractive for players to buy GTC and convert them then sell for ISK. This means more income for CCP. Add to that there will be a few who have been using PLEX to keep an account going that will switch to a monthly in the hopes that prices will drop once again and they will not lose training time. Either way high in game prices for PLEX is more money in CCPs pocket. As far as CCP intervention goes it will not happen until it gets almost to the point that PLEX prices are so high that the folks buying them in game drop out of the game due to inability to pay for them. At that point the law of supply and demand should cause the price to drop and CCP will need to do nothing. Should CCP intervene in this situation at all they will use alts/npcs to start undercutting real players in plex prices forcing the players to react with an ensuing price war to the benefit of the buyers. I do not think they will do this because as I said high in game prices for PLEX benefit CCP. If they ever do anything it will be artificially inflating the in game PLEX price after a drop and a price war by buying up enough PLEXes the price stabilizes or even goes up to where folks feel it is lucrative to once again buy GTC and convert for sale in game. Keep in mind CCP wants and needs to make money and they do this with GTC and subscriptions. If they can increase sales of either it increases income and lets face it subscription have dropped so it benefits CCP to make the buying of GTC and converting to PLEX lucrative in game.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 208	Posted - 2011.10.06 03:05:00 - [24] - Quote Valid isk price for plex can be only obtained by converting it to time. This time is different for every player. You have to ask yourself "How long would I be willing to spend time doing what I do to gain enough iskies to buy 30 days game time?". If you can afford the plex in that time, the price is low enough. If you can't, you should be buying the plex (or game time) with real world currency. Classic forum style - Images and colored text - Custom CQ videos
Cipher Jones 57	Posted - 2011.10.06 04:27:00 - [25] - Quote Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: I am betting this is due to people like myself who have never paid with plex, but are now unwilling to spend real money on this game until CCP fixes it, and are using our ISK stores to buy game time. Can't say for sure, but I am willing to bet that is one of the big reasons for a higher than usual demand. Thats not why and I betcha any money if you read the forums you can figure it out. See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die.
Gwenywell Shumuku 22	Posted - 2011.10.06 04:30:00 - [26] - Quote Nothing unusual about the spike, exactly like the buildup before Incarna release. Expectations are high for winter expansion, the question is: will CCP deliver. After Incarna release and NEX failure plex dropped dramatically within days. Now, this can happen again if winter expansion fails, but plex prices can go higher if its a success, as demand would be high (reactivations) for some time before supply could catch up.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 326	Posted - 2011.10.06 04:31:00 - [27] - Quote Thomas Abernathy wrote: Are you serious? CCP wants plex skyhigh, they are trying to push all the freeloaders into paying accounts... You do realise that they make more money on those PLEXes than if the same people paid subscription fees, right? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á


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