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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Zaneg
Originally by: Blacklight
The once every 6-8 week mining ops of some of the (almost) fulltime pvp corps are indeed something to behold, 5 bill isk of Zydrine in one weekend will keep a corp of 150 people pretty active for quite a while when added to all the supplementary income 
Thats some odd 33 Misk every other month ? Will get you 2 fitted inty's id say.
You must either die a lot, be crap at maths, not know how to invest your isk or not know how we operate.... oh wait... silly me, you thought I'd actually fully explain how we run the corp...
Eve Blacklight Style
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2005.05.14 13:38:00 -
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we look like pvpers, but we are creamy carebears in the inside 
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.05.14 15:03:00 -
[33]
I use my isk generator button
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Ricdic
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Posted - 2005.05.14 17:54:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Ricdic on 14/05/2005 17:55:18
I guess this is how you make your income :
Destroyed items:
Type: Power Diagnostic System II (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Power Diagnostic System II (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Power Diagnostic System II (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Shock 'Limos' Siege Missile Bay I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Gist C-Type Heat Dissipation Field (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Gist C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Shock 'Limos' Siege Missile Bay I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Shock 'Limos' Siege Missile Bay I (Fitted - High slot)
Yep, it was my raven that died. Yep it hurt, but Yep it was fun. m0o had 5 ships pummeling me to take this baby down, almost a 2 minute battle. Unfortunately they would have been crying when the can held 3 shock siege and killmail held all those goodies.
edit: also had a gistii em and kin hardener, but i guess they looted those
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.05.14 22:14:00 -
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Enslaver give me 2 bil 
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.05.14 22:35:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 00:04:40
Originally by: Plim
Carebear alts 
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all people who whine against "carebears" have carebear alts of themselves. If your going to be a pirate then you should recieve and accept whatever comes with that profession. As a pirate it should be a lot harder for you to earn money.
REAL pirates don't do that. So, "yarr" to that.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.14 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Claude Leon
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all
Broad unsubstantiated claims 4tw.
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.05.15 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 00:11:04
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: Claude Leon
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all
Broad unsubstantiated claims 4tw.
Are you saying my premise is not valid?
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.05.15 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Claude Leon
Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 00:04:40
Originally by: Plim
Carebear alts
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all people who whine against "carebears" have carebear alts of themselves. If your going to be a pirate then you should recieve and accept whatever comes with that profession. As a pirate it should be a lot harder for you to earn money.
REAL pirates don't do that. So, "yarr" to that.
Sorry but pirates in real life (EVE != RL) actually did spend most of their time doing an "honest" job. Piracy tended to be something that happend when times where tough, or a crew got a bit greedy when happening upon a another (usually foreign) ship laden with cargo.
Modern day piracy is mostly like that as well. Fisherman who are down on their luck/greedy, attacking a passing cargo hauler. Full time pirates are historically rare.
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.05.15 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 01:24:44
Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Claude Leon
Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 00:04:40
Originally by: Plim
Carebear alts
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all people who whine against "carebears" have carebear alts of themselves. If your going to be a pirate then you should recieve and accept whatever comes with that profession. As a pirate it should be a lot harder for you to earn money.
REAL pirates don't do that. So, "yarr" to that.
Sorry but pirates in real life (EVE != RL) actually did spend most of their time doing an "honest" job. Piracy tended to be something that happend when times where tough, or a crew got a bit greedy when happening upon a another (usually foreign) ship laden with cargo.
Modern day piracy is mostly like that as well. Fisherman who are down on their luck/greedy, attacking a passing cargo hauler. Full time pirates are historically rare.
The key word in your comment is "DID". To be a pirate in EVE means that you should constantly fear being attacked by other pirates and or bounty hunters.
If pickings are low and you are not making any ISK, then tough. YOU choose that position, so deal with it. Using a alternate "carebear" character is lame and a exploit, IMHO.
I really doubt if we traveled back several hundered years we would see the pirate "Blackbeard" going around making money honestly when he was not attacking the shipping lanes.
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zcinner
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Posted - 2005.05.15 01:23:00 -
[41]
www.ebay.com
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.05.15 02:02:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Blacklight on 15/05/2005 02:02:36
Who said anyone was discussing pirates?
The original question was how PvPers that fight big alliances make the cash to support their PvP habits, that question has nothing to do with piracy.
Eve Blacklight Style
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.05.15 09:56:00 -
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* The loot you get from kills is worth more than you loose.
* When there's none to kill you have time to kill some NPCs.
So you earn isk on PvP...
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.05.15 11:00:00 -
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The answer is to hold all capturable refining stations in a region, then NAP all your neighbours so you get miners in to fill your coffers.
Will never have to lift a lazy blob waring finger again.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.05.15 11:28:00 -
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"Using a alternate "carebear" character is lame and a exploit, IMHO."
errrm, whyyyy? 
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KamikazeHamster
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Posted - 2005.05.17 16:17:00 -
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Thanks for ALL your replys guys. The piratey things were useful as well, thanks
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.05.17 17:15:00 -
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Really its all about common sense when CA and FIX were fighting each other other account which is a production character sold most of the cruisers and missiles guns ect she made to CA pilots, you just have to know what is wanted and play the market. you can pretty much garrenteee never to run out of isk.
" Stay Frosty "
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.05.18 09:18:00 -
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It¦s possible to earn money with pvp. But you have to kill alot. Maybe 1 of 1000 ships in 0.0 has a cargo that is worth more than 100 mil ISK. Hunting NPCers can pay: they usually fit good named stuff. Yulai-ganks also provide money if you scan indys or barges and kill wisely.
In 2 years of EVE i participated in roundabout 100 "good" kills that gave 100 mil - 5 bil ISK.
The best kill was a Taranis that had the BPOs of all 3 mining barges. I still dont know why the idi did not mwd back to the gate...
TDG usually flys with full risk and attacks outnumbered. If our losses are too big, we reduce risk by going into "farming mode". This means we disengage if the chance to make ISK is low, while we focus on killing "good" traffic. Once wallets are full again we go into "100% aggression mode" again. We refuse to do EVE work (after comming home from work). A game should bring fun. It¦s also boring to "fight the AI". Even a 1-day n00b has more brain than the NPCs. We want to fight players.
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Clementina
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Posted - 2005.05.21 01:12:00 -
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I fight for my alliance, and for me, since I'm not all together that good, don't make money off of PvP. I make my money off of agent running, NPC trade routes, and selling loot.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.05.21 02:30:00 -
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Use normal siege launchers and only really cheap named stuff (e.g medium neuts). Have insurance and not be an idiot and get ganked.
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Soulis
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Posted - 2005.05.23 04:14:00 -
[51]
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: SirSpectre
Edited by: SirSpectre on 12/05/2005 13:47:42
I personally have built 8 battleships from rat droppings then sell them.
This is why we need to see who's selling stuff on the market. I for one don't want a BS, or any ship, made out of rat turds.
LoL
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H Zub
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Posted - 2005.05.23 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: H Zub on 23/05/2005 11:13:05
Captain Morgan Society have war loot and ransom as our only income.
Captain Morgan Society
Me parrot
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Blue Adept
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Blue Adept on 23/05/2005 22:22:58
I fly in cheap frigates and go hunting against our well known enemies deep in their home regions (ATUK/Shrina/friends).
We recently killed a Shrina covert ops full of 150,000,000.00 million in mega/zydrine (none of it got destroyed. This will go a long way to cover costs of any frigates lost in the process of hunting.
-Blue Adept.
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Attila
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Posted - 2005.05.24 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Claude Leon
I really doubt if we traveled back several hundered years we would see the pirate "Blackbeard" going around making money honestly when he was not attacking the shipping lanes.
From here: Linkage
Another side of his complex psyche caused the pirate to crave a quiet life ashore. In 1717 he appeared before Governor Charles Eden of North Carolina with 20 of his men and received the king's pardon. Blackbeard appears to have been no stranger to the governor. A contemporary described portions of stolen pirate loot being carried to Eden House and observed that "Governors are but Men." Blackbeard proceeded to acquire a fine home near Bath, North Carolina--an area where frontier morality still prevailed--and was married by Governor Eden to a 16-year-old bride who, unbeknownst to her, was his 14th wife. Ten among her predecessors were still living. A time of merrymaking and dissipation followed during which the pirate, though a swaggering braggart, won over most of the neighboring planters through gifts of rum and sugar as well as lavish entertainments in his home.
After awhile the call of the open sea became irresistible, and Blackbeard returned to piracy along the southeastern coast, ranging as far north as Pennsylvania in the eight-gun sloop Adventure.
Lighten up dude....even pirates need a break once and a while.
"Keep the Smak low, and the ROF high"
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2005.05.24 10:33:00 -
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I have a copy of Oveurs ISK making screen saver running at home while I'm at work.
LOL I wish!
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Sweetpain
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Posted - 2005.05.29 11:36:00 -
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there are very few people in Eve that could call themselves pirates. most of the people playing a pirate character have alts that are only created to support the pirate character.
I have all the respect for a "pirate" its a choice they made in a game, but people taking that choice should be forced to live by it. once flagged pirate allways a pirate, Concord is way to forgiving in this game, so most of the pirates can pick a day of the week and call it "ganking day" the next is "rat hunting day" and the rest of the days of the week is called "brag on the boards days".
a flagged pirate should allways be flagged as pirate, security rating would not matter, that way we could more easy seperate a pirate from a boy pounding their chest once a while when they and their friends mass up at some gate or the other to kill whatever they are able to kill.
Piracy is a trade, not a hobby like most of you "bad boys" think it is. how many here would be willing to flag their account not character but account for piracy? I bet we could count them on our fingers, most of the bad pirates out there is way to dependable on their alts to be sucessfull as pirates, yet they have the biggest mouth when it comes to bragging about their latest exploits in the game.
sorry kiddo your not a pirate, piracy is a lifestyle not a hobby you can do once a while when bored out of your mind mining in safe space with your main toons.
to answer the question Author :)
"How do you PvPers who fight the big alliances actually make the cash to support your PvP habit????"
the answer is simple really "its their alts" or another Big alliance's Alts.
oh no the cover is blown, help us all!
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Heroic Piper
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Posted - 2005.05.29 16:53:00 -
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Can i ask the question then
How do new-ish (up to 3mill sp) charicters withe very few skill points in industry and no mega rich alliances or carebear alts make money to pvp without suckin veldaspar or shooting rats?
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Grankor
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Posted - 2005.05.29 21:30:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Claude Leon
Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 01:24:44
Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Claude Leon
Edited by: Claude Leon on 15/05/2005 00:04:40
Originally by: Plim
Carebear alts
And this is what I have a big problem with. Most of not all people who whine against "carebears" have carebear alts of themselves. If your going to be a pirate then you should recieve and accept whatever comes with that profession. As a pirate it should be a lot harder for you to earn money.
REAL pirates don't do that. So, "yarr" to that.
Sorry but pirates in real life (EVE != RL) actually did spend most of their time doing an "honest" job. Piracy tended to be something that happend when times where tough, or a crew got a bit greedy when happening upon a another (usually foreign) ship laden with cargo.
Modern day piracy is mostly like that as well. Fisherman who are down on their luck/greedy, attacking a passing cargo hauler. Full time pirates are historically rare.
The key word in your comment is "DID". To be a pirate in EVE means that you should constantly fear being attacked by other pirates and or bounty hunters.
If pickings are low and you are not making any ISK, then tough. YOU choose that position, so deal with it. Using a alternate "carebear" character is lame and a exploit, IMHO.
I really doubt if we traveled back several hundered years we would see the pirate "Blackbeard" going around making money honestly when he was not attacking the shipping lanes.
Nothing is wrong with a pirate having a carebear alt. Thats like telling miners they shouldnt have hauler alts. The miners use their hauler alts to move their stuff, and pirates do the same.
It's carebears like you who scream "exploit" at anything that helps a pvper who makes this game go downhill. You dont like to lose ships and die? Then go back to running agent missions in .9 space and afk mining in 1.0 space.
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Grankor
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Posted - 2005.05.29 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Heroic Piper
Can i ask the question then
How do new-ish (up to 3mill sp) charicters withe very few skill points in industry and no mega rich alliances or carebear alts make money to pvp without suckin veldaspar or shooting rats?
Dont hook up with a pirate corp. Get with an alliance and join their military.
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