Bring back old vargur.
At least its old solar panel wings...

I agree with this and, oddly enough, I am of the opinion that there should be larger stations. I mean when was the last time you actually felt like Jita 4-4 was big enough to be the trade hub it seems? Shouldn't there be a feeling of awe you get as you warp up to it? How do all those ships fit on the undock? (Hint: They don't! :P)

A new, improved, much larger Jita 4-4 would make a lot of sense and add a ton of flavor. Trade hub stations ought to have grown in size more. :) So say in Rens, Dodixie, and Amarr maybe too. That Emperor Family Academy sure is used for a lot more than schooling, yet it remains one of the smaller Amarr stations.

EDIT: The scale of anything is hard for me to really get into well just because it's difficult to experience it in the game. When you're flying something large and you zoom in on something small it seems to be there, but when flying something small the only way you can really get a sense of scale is by centering on something large and looking at yourself as the small ship around it -- not by centering on yourself and feeling the sense of something giant looming over you. Not exactly something up for "fixing" as I don't even know how you'd begin to approach something like that, but just an observation. How much would scaling up capitals change the perception of them to smaller vessels?

The thing that got to me was that I had flown caldari awhile long ago and gone "OK, so fashion of the era is big on asymmetrical, i'm good with that", but then the new clothes came out and they're symmetrical.

Still, the incursus needs help, even if it's not "ugly" so much as under developed. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ncKTo_fI4 at 1:10. What is that? Is that supposed to be... an Incursus? Then why does the one in my hangar look so much like something that a grade schooler made out of a cardboard box and some cardboard tubes?

I'd like the Imicus a bit better if the "melted chocolate bar" look looked a bit more "angled" and less "lol I left my chocolate in the sun".

All dreads(minus minmatar)(add a pirate faction dread), all carriers(minus minmatar) all titans (minus avatar)(i feel like somethings missing from the levy)


mostly all ships atm need a little love

I love what you guys did with the Stealth bombers("same hull" completely different loooking ship.) which makes it looks like the t2 ship is an UPGRADE of the t1 hull and not just some cheap reskin.

i believe all t2 ships need an upgraded look from their t1 counter part to make it appear it's actually an upgraded ship.

I also believe there are a few plain hulls that need some extra love( the most obvious moa.)

comparing the designs of the ships with the older and newer, the newer ships don't fit in with the older. they stick out.


Also, if you're going to add the npc logos on the ships, add them to the rest.

Moa/Gila. Seriously. It looks like a disgruntled briefcase holder had a incestuous relationship with a bird.

Caracal. Best example of taking a sleek, fast looking design... then adding a staircase and a flipped U at the back of it.

Bantam, Griffin, Kitsune, see Moa. Obviously that disgrunteled briefcaseholder had a lot of weird relationships.

Typhoon + Variants. Looks like a trashcan with engines. Actually, trashcans look better. Also, last time I checked Panthers were in fact not trashcans. Do not try this at home kids.

Dominix. Someone seems to have digestion problems. Note to CCP: We do not want to fly what comes out of your glorious behinds after the morning coffee.

Condor/Badger could use some love as well.

Succubus. See Dominix. No, we don't even want to fly small pieces of poo.

Brutix: We also don't want to fly poo that has been stretched into a different shape than regular poo.

Hookbill. This one could look so awesome if you only cut the nose and moved the launchers to a less stick-out position.

Imicus. What is this, I don't even...?

Ospery/Basilisk. See Imicus.

Blackbird. What exactly is holding this thing together at speeds greater than 3mil km/s?

Emergent Locus Analyzers for T3. So bonuses to probes and assorted launchers does have to look ugly, huh? Exception: Legion - Mini Avatar.

Caldari Shuttle: The smaller the uglier. Adding glow to the cockpit didn't help. Really.

Arbitrator Hull: Improved drone bay and maybe a straight hull on the nose section.

Thorax, see Arby hull, that thing would look so awesome if the hull was straight. (Inb4 it's not gay!)

Hoarder. I am not even sure what it should resemble?

Raven: Could use a massive texture rework. The better Eve's graphics get the more it looks out of place. Same for CNR.

The Caps mentioned so far would be a good choice for a redesign however:

Wyvern. Note to designer: If it's not evident where the front is when the engines are off, it's probably a bad design. The Leviathan is a good guidline on how to do it.

Also: Erebus and Moros, which side is up?

I appreciate the designers trying to give us ships that look alien in shape but too much is never a good thing. Please, we're supposed to look at that for hours. Take the Coercer for example, the Stabber, the Algos.

They look awesome in that they're alien enough to set the mood but believable to be actually created by humans. Not by some weird force int he universe randomly forming polygons until it looks ugly enough. Or even worse, created by a disgruntled briefcaseholder having ... well you get the idea.

A complete hull rework patch/ small things improvements for the next expansion would be something worth doing to please both PvP and PvEers