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Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:06:00 -
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CCP is doing a great job going over and rebalancing ships lately, and many things are getting a new makeover! But what are some vessels that you think could use a bit of a brush-up?
In my personal opinion, the Impel needs to be revisited. The Bestower hull is awesome for a hauler, but what's with the American guts-n-glory chopper exhaust pipes? I giggle every time I see them. One of the more comical ships, imo. Surely there can be a more creative addition to the vessel that still differentiates it from the hum-drum Bestower. :) |

Ckra Trald
Stellar Essence University STELLAR CONSTELLATION
3
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:21:00 -
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Dominix Moa
anything not symmetrical |

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:44:00 -
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The omen is missing its other stubbly wing Oderint Dum Metuant |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2720
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:44:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing
If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1100
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:15:00 -
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the list needs to start and end with the moa, its SO ugly |

Terazul
The Scope Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:18:00 -
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Basically everything Caldari that hasn't already been revamped.
There's assymetry... and then there's fuggin' ugly. Pretty much all Caldari ships fall into the latter.
The V3 process improved many of the ships, but Caldari ships still look horrible. There's no way to save them without a complete revamp. |

Alara IonStorm
3785
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:32:00 -
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I think Caldari Cruisers in general could use a touch up. The Condor and Bantam as well. Are the rest are pretty much fine. Imicus and Celestis could use some love. Minmatar I can't say for sure I like most of their ships but would not mind touch ups. Harbinger turret if that is still an issue, the Aeon and Apocalypse.
On a small scale I would like the Raven to get a little bit more wing on the stubby side, besides that it is a great ship. The Dominix is two centuries old and its do all design of Drones, Guns, EWAR is the kind of ship a smaller starting empire would game out as their first big Battleship instead of single valuable rolls. It looks like it was used to carry troops as well. It reminds me a lot of a Battlestar. I hope if the redesign it they will keep its age and multipurpose design in mind. |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:49:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:I think Caldari Cruisers in general could use a touch up. The Condor and Bantam as well. Are the rest are pretty much fine. Imicus and Celestis could use some love. Minmatar I can't say for sure I like most of their ships but would not mind touch ups. Harbinger turret if that is still an issue, the Aeon and Apocalypse.
On a small scale I would like the Raven to get a little bit more wing on the stubby side, besides that it is a great ship. The Dominix is two centuries old and its do all design of Drones, Guns, EWAR is the kind of ship a smaller starting empire would game out as their first big Battleship instead of single valuable rolls. It looks like it was used to carry troops as well. It reminds me a lot of a Battlestar. I hope if the redesign it they will keep its age and multipurpose design in mind.
The Aeon does look weird, the Apocalypse looks very cool to me, but I suppose some of the design could be touched up with regards to how angular it can be (maybe), but I've actually never really liked the Harbinger's look. I mean yeah, it looks kinda mean, but it doesn't exactly look Amarrian. It's the one that never lined up. Wings and lots of odd cylinders on a fat and pretty awesome head/body.
The Prophecy is still a fat golden Chicken, so it could get a little sleeker, but I wouldn't change much else about it. I love its bird of prey look.
Can't speak to the Dominix much, but I doubt it can get much better than the good old pimped domi. :) |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2187
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:51:00 -
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New Vargur "fins" look too much like a fish. They should be less circular. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:51:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly.
The omen is beautiful! <3 |

EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:48:00 -
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All caldari Cruisers need love. |

leoplusma
Delfus Inc. HumAnnoyeD
2
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:53:00 -
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eh erm... what about Archon ? those two engines on the back look awful like CPIS (chimney-pipes-in-space)
give us a new capital class of ships and refurbish them all yeah ^^^^ |

TharOkha
0asis Group
183
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:16:00 -
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Aeon - completely Archon- engines Moa - ehm.. Dominix - ehm Machariel - textures, those present looks like 12x12 pixels blurry textures GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
3372
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:27:00 -
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Augoror /Guardian. That clumsy space-potato look reminds more of Gallente and doesn't go well with Amarr. For best results and enhanced forum experience, please read my posts in Snooki's voice |

Kiteo Hatto
Equanimity Order
354
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:33:00 -
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Celestis / Exequeruehwerifhihfghfkjdshfdshflkjsds-whatever it is
Maybe Iterons texture wise, its kinda blurry compared to the rest of the newer ones. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |

Luc Chastot
Moira. Villore Accords
103
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:39:00 -
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I mostly fly Gallente, so Dominix. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
283
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:55:00 -
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many textures and details could be improved etc but the asymmetry of some ships is completely wonderful and should never change i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |

Xervish Krin
Shiva Furnace
38
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:05:00 -
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Imicus/Helios. I live in wormholes and I have to see it every time I scan. I guess that's the real reason cloaking technology was invented. |

YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
479
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:33:00 -
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I vote for Dominix, Typhoon, and Moa as the next redesigns.
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Liner Xiandra
Caldari State Reserve
40
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:18:00 -
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Thrusters on the Badgers always made me nghhh, they're too lowpoly.
Tormentor should be revamped to look a little less like the lolwut pear |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
57
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:36:00 -
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Rupture. Everytime I see this thing I'm thinking "Tool Time" . |

Hate 101
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:38:00 -
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The bustard put it back the way it was |

Funky Lazers
Shin-Ra Ltd
38
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:44:00 -
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Almost every Caldari ship and especially hairy armpit aka raven. "Adapt" - means you have to stop using the ship you like and start flying Drake or Tengu like the rest nullbear newbs. |

MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
633
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:47:00 -
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The Domi needs something... maybe this: http://www.oodora.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/potato-masher.jpg
November 6th, 2012 "With this in mind, it becomes quite obvious to focus on training the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills before the change to get the maximum return effect. We highly recommend you start doing so now." --á CCP Ytterbium from:-áhttp://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530 |

Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
139
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:30:00 -
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The Caldari cruisers, as well as the Bantam, Condor, Griffin & Raven. |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:26:00 -
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Alright, add the Bellicose/Huginn to this list. I don't think I even need to explain. Just....
.... wat. |

galenwade
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:33:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly.
This ... don't touch 
Whats wrong with the condor ? the only Caldari ship i like the look of  |

archon o'v
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:54:00 -
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most caldari ships need fixing, up to BS |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
312
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:05:00 -
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My biggest pet-peve is the Mach model. Now, I know some love the fact it tilts downwards but it should really have a structure that complements this design choice. Right now, it just seems to "want" to look different, kind of like that nerd kid in highschool as opposed to being one-of-a-kind awesome like a true iPhone hipster. |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
223
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:07:00 -
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The rokh damn ugly ship ..... Joking dont touch my rokh  |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
4102
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:10:00 -
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Minmatar ship trails need to be parts of the ship falling off "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Pretty GuyYeah
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:22:00 -
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Dominix and vexor..
Dat Vexor... |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1373
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:40:00 -
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Ckra Trald wrote:Dominix Moa
anything not symmetrical
Symetrical ships are for the simple mind.
It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |

Pretty GuyYeah
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:49:00 -
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The Vexor looks as if it has been done in Paint |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
126
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:07:00 -
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Vote for Rokh, with more solid steel carriage look. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
126
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:09:00 -
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Pretty GuyYeah wrote:Dominix and vexor..
Dat Vexor...
Dominix hull is based on drone hull, in fact dominix is more drone than ship, CCP need to redesign NPC first  EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Endymion Varg
Interstellar Vermin Inc.
11
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:08:00 -
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the typhoon and its variants Will pirate for food. |

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
29
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:16:00 -
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Karrde Belarr wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly. The omen is beautiful! <3
The Omen and Aeon are the only Amarr ships that aren't symmetrical which makes them kind of oddballs. I skilled up on Buckingham and got to pilot a Aeon for a few weeks and it grew on me. Sometimes you never really notice all the small intricate details about a ship till you pilot it. Oderint Dum Metuant |

Aria Ta'Rohk
Legion of Tears
25
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:17:00 -
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Change the camo for the Gallente Navy ships. I mean seriously, they look like they have been covered in mold. Other than that, I think the Moa needs to be drowned I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |

Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2012.12.10 06:11:00 -
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I'm just going to have to say: Falcon, Rook, Blackbird after looking at them again today. They are much better V3'd, but I think that weird stubby thing on the front and the big thruster attached to the not-so-attached thing are a bit weird. Still, much better than they were. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
503
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Posted - 2012.12.10 06:15:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Rupture. Everytime I see this thing I'm thinking "Tool Time"  .
Yes, definitely this one too. That thing poking out on the lower front has always bugged me, (I assume it's the bridge), and the general shape is particularly unappealing. Also, it has no wings. I never really liked it, to the point of generally refusing to even fly one because it was just that bad.
Despite it supposedly being good. I assume it must be or there wouldn't be any on the market. 
ahh... heh. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Intrepid Crossing
287
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:19:00 -
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I think suppers need to be about 25% bigger. Reflective of mins used to make and the fact the cannot dock I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
844
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:21:00 -
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Think of the Blackbirds! "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

DeBingJos
Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance
479
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:28:00 -
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The vagabond. Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1246
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:31:00 -
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CCP needs to lose its weird, creepy obsession with asymmetry. Mane 614
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1448
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:15:00 -
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Terazul wrote:The V3 process improved many of the ships And for others, it didn't change a damn thing. Sansha ships, T3s, Navy Apocalypse and a few others I can't remember right now look exactly the same as they did pre-V3, with the exception of the slightest bit more shine and in a few cases some V3'd logos. Amarr's changes were rather minor as well, but at least the difference between V2 and V3 was noticeable. By comparison most of the Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari lineups got new textures as part of the V3 process.
Also Sansha ships have this weird iridescent thing going on, but I think that started happening before they were V3'd. -áObjects in mirror are redder than they appear. |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
772
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:23:00 -
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do not touch the chicken with a briefcase , if the moa had the same performance as the stabber , people wouldn't even mind flying around in a chicken
seriously yes the moa needs some love just as the blackbird the caracal on the other hand is great I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10644
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:38:00 -
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The only one that desperately needs attention is the Imicus hull. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:42:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing
If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game.

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Alayna Le'line
Battery Acid Skinny Dippers
35
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:54:00 -
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"De gustibus et coloribus non disputandem" and this topic is certainly proof of that 
While some ship changes would make them look more aesthetically pleasing I kind of like the off-beat ships and the little oddities that make some ships stand out (Omen is a good example).
I personally think the Moa hull is seriously ugly but then I've never flown one and even if I had I'm not sure I'd want it changed. (I actually think most Caldari ships are ugly).
I like my Gallente hulls, I've grown kinda fond of my Dominix by using, my cute little (well...not really) space potato of death. It's not sexy but it's...iconic. The Imicus hulls I actually genuinly like(tm).
The Vexor could use a retexture, or at least some higher res textures. The cyber-hairdryer looks kind of blurry right now.
Now the Proteus, maybe it's my colourblindness but the textures of that thing I really do not like... |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:58:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:New Vargur "fins" look too much like a fish. They should be less circular.
No, no, no, you are objectively wrong, the Vargur fins look like a mohawk. Anyone flying a Vargur without having death metal blasting from their speakers is doing it wrong.
In fact, CCP, I would like to suggest a new high slot module; the 'Noise Blaster'. MAKE IT SO. (Low slot amps are subwoofers.) |

Thgil Goldcore
Advenus Classem
389
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:00:00 -
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I think the minmatar ships need duct tape showing on them... I bet they can do that with the new textures they are using.
Although if anyone touches the Nyx I'll cut them. I hate those green ship hippy bastards but damn the Nyx is pretty. |

Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
191
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:01:00 -
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Terazul wrote:Basically everything Caldari that hasn't already been revamped.
There's assymetry... and then there's fuggin' ugly. Pretty much all Caldari ships fall into the latter.
The V3 process improved many of the ships, but Caldari ships still look horrible. There's no way to save them without a complete revamp.
plz don't change the scorpion It's probably the best looking caldari ship other than the ferox why do the best looking caldari ships suck ass at anything combat related? I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |

Colt Blackhawk
Forced Penetration Reckless Faith
11
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:04:00 -
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PLZ PLZ PLZ do sth with the Hookbill! It is probably the most ugly ship in game. Followed by the Blackbird. |

Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
114
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:09:00 -
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Moa is roflmaowtfbbq.
I used to hate the bantam but it actually looks cool when it's mining. Which. I guess. It doesn't do anymore. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
317
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:11:00 -
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Every sci fi has to have it's ugly ships. Anything Klingon, for example. Look at it this way: consider the starships designers of New Eden in parallel with car designers of the real world (I know, another "RL" comparison - sue me). The Subaru WRX is one of the ugliest cars on the road, but it goes harder than most others in its class. Ferrari could use a facelift, too. Lamborghini's look gorgeous, but they're too heavy and cumbersome for any real performance applications. Yes, I am aware that they race them, but the Nissans are the ones that are winning the GT1s.
If every ship was beautiful, there would be no art. There would be no comparison. And on that note, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - one man's Maserati is another man's eyesore (it's my favourite Italian maker, tbh, but I'll admit they don't even come close to the gorgeousness of an Alfa Romeo, which by the WILL fall apart the moment you touch it).
I like all the ships the way they are. I like the changes that were made the the Mega and the Vaga and the others, and I liked their old models too. I like the ugly ships, even the Moa, because without them, we would have no appreciation for the gorgeous ones like the Talos and the Hyperion. You may disagree that these are good looking ships, but you're making part of my point for me by doing that - what I find gorgeous, you might find ugly. And it's why any serious overhalls of ship design should not be made.
Perhaps a tweak here and there to update ships, like with the Mega - sure, it looks different now, but all in all, it's still the same size, and general shape, and I think that's important. This is original art we're talking about here, and so would be a new Moa, more than likely, but changing it would only demean the artwork that makes EVE unique. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
155
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:56:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game. 
dont you dare touch my omen/zealot... its fine the way it is |

Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
151
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:58:00 -
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After the Stabber got OHMYGODGORGEOUS, one of the few eyesores left in the game is the Ruppie.
(I like the Moa...) Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |

psycho freak
Snuff Box
52
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:58:00 -
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Moa Domi Rag
moa and rag look utter sh*t well one looks actualy like sh*t
domi just needs little facelift nothing major
my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |

TharOkha
0asis Group
190
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:00:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game. 
Actualy... Omen is one of a few asymetric ships that looks fantastic GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1639
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:01:00 -
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The sansha turdship carrier Revenant TK is recruiting |

Codie Dunier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:07:00 -
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I honestly think it's about time someone did something to make the Thrasher look less like a giant, metallic Gubby-fish. It just doesn't fit with Minmatar to have a giant fish-shaped ship. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:18:00 -
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Codie Dunier wrote:I honestly think it's about time someone did something to make the Thrasher look less like a giant, metallic Gubby-fish. It just doesn't fit with Minmatar to have a giant fish-shaped ship.
The Thrasher is awesome! One of the genuinely mean-looking ships in the game. (And the Sabre paintjob just makes it meaner.) |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
371
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:13:00 -
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Right now my votes would be for the Moa, Badgers 1 and 2, Typhoon, Rupture, Machariel, Dominix, and all four titans. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
373
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:18:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ckra Trald wrote:Dominix Moa
anything not symmetrical Symetrical ships are for the simple mind.
There's asymmetrical ships that most people agree look nice:
naga corax
But those are minor asymmetricalities, not ridiculous ones like the osprey and moa, that just look like nonsense.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
371
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:20:00 -
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The Moa definitely has that Chris Foss look to it. "IT LURCHED DRUNKENLY FROM OUTER SPACE!!!" An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
143
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:24:00 -
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Raven hulls are ******* ugly
Moa makes me want to puke
Rokh its fine but it lacks details and a meaner look, maybe its too small and slim?
Abaddon is awesome but still looks like a chubby BFG goon, maybe it could be made longer to look bigger and meaner.
Harbinger, could get its wings sweep a little backward.
Prophecy its a fat chicken.
Condor, way too plain and square for a fast captor ship, given caldari nature, i would really expect it to be much sleeker.
Any capital ship. looks like piece of crap, if not by the model, then because the textures have an obscenely low resolution.
Revenant!!!!! its a space flying turd, that also lacks any decent firepower or battle worth features. |

Jerick Ludhowe
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
228
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:29:00 -
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Every ship with a drone bay that does not have a drone bay modeled onto the ship. The list on this one is extremely long... CCP Even managed to drop the ball on the new vagabond/stabber fleet issue and imo both ships need a very moderate remodel to include some sort of small drone bay. |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
59
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:48:00 -
[69] - Quote
In my opinion-
Complete Remodels;
Mining Barges Moa Burst Bantam Navitas Celestis Space Potato a.k.a Dominix Blackbird Imicus Iterons - LOLNOSEONASTICK
Touch Ups; Update the frigates with their stealth bomber models. Rupture Armageddon Typhoon |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1188

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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game. 
If the prophecy was a little slimmer, it would pwn  ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Berendas
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
378
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:18:00 -
[71] - Quote
Capitals need to be scaled up in size, they are far too visually underwhelming for their strength. |

unit114
Lightbringer's Sanctuary RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
The Falcon, Oh god the falcon hurts my eyes.
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
376
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
unit114 wrote:The Falcon, Oh god the falcon hurts my eyes.
I like it's paint job, however the hull could use a bit of work (it has the right ECM'y feel, but its a bit too ugly, needs a visible cockpit and a bit less blockyness) |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
374
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:52:00 -
[74] - Quote
yeah, honestly, when I think Ishukone I think white and ice blue for some reason, not yellow and black An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
5
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:09:00 -
[75] - Quote
Aralieus wrote:Karrde Belarr wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly. The omen is beautiful! <3 The Omen and Aeon are the only Amarr ships that aren't symmetrical which makes them kind of oddballs.
Crucifier :)
I'm really happy with the treatment the Maller received at some point (I forget when, but it used to be one ugly mother). The Damnation, with its black color, is almost good enough to take my spot for "sexiest ship in the game" even without being slimmed down. But if that Prophecy hull wasn't so fat, good god, what a beauty that Damnation would be <3 |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
5
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:13:00 -
[76] - Quote
Berendas wrote:Capitals need to be scaled up in size, they are far too visually underwhelming for their strength.
I agree with this and, oddly enough, I am of the opinion that there should be larger stations. I mean when was the last time you actually felt like Jita 4-4 was big enough to be the trade hub it seems? Shouldn't there be a feeling of awe you get as you warp up to it? How do all those ships fit on the undock? (Hint: They don't! :P)
A new, improved, much larger Jita 4-4 would make a lot of sense and add a ton of flavor. Trade hub stations ought to have grown in size more. :) So say in Rens, Dodixie, and Amarr maybe too. That Emperor Family Academy sure is used for a lot more than schooling, yet it remains one of the smaller Amarr stations. |

Vincent Gaines
Double-Down Transmission Lost
272
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:19:00 -
[77] - Quote
Destru Kaneda wrote:After the Stabber got OHMYGODGORGEOUS, one of the few eyesores left in the game is the Ruppie.
(I like the Moa...)
The Rup? It looks like a pirate ship. What's wrong with that? |

Therran Promitz
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
6
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:54:00 -
[78] - Quote
I know people think it's endearing, but for the Caldari's cruiser gunboat, the Moa is a crime against creation. |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
103
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:59:00 -
[79] - Quote
At this rate we might as well change all of the ships into bacon shapes, so at least we can all agree that they look good. wumbo |

Name Family Name
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
From an aesthetic POV, I have to agree that the new Tempest/Stabber models look better than they used to, however, they look far too clean and hightech now.
Minmatar ships were supposed to look like some insurgents taped them together from debris - now they look more slick and hightech than any other race.
Moreover, color schemes aside the new Maller and Stabber models look like they were different ships from the same race.
The new Mega model is a perfect example of how ships should be updated whilst retaining their character and looks great, but considering the direction CCP is taking with Minmatar/Amarr hulls, I'll be careful what I'm asking for, but since my opinion is irrelevant here are some hulls that need work (naming the T1 base):
- Apoc - Prophecy - Harbinger - Aeon - Dominix - Blackbird - Moa
With the exception of the Aeon that looks like a wreck where one side exploded and thus should be completely redone, it should just be touchoups similar to the new Mega though. |

Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
2528
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:32:00 -
[81] - Quote
Complete Remodels:
-All pirate ships with currently non-unique hulls -All T2 ships that don't already have them -Dominix -Rupture -Bellicose -Moa -Griffin -Helios -Bestower -Badger -Aeon -Mining barges -Rorqual
Touch ups: -Typhoon -Hyperion -Talwar -Archon -Naglfar
Don't touch: -Blackbird -Hurricane -Thorax -Rifter -Merlin -Navitas -Maelstrom -Abaddon -Apocalypse -Machariel -Cynabal -Myrmidon
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
201
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:56:00 -
[82] - Quote
I'll just emphasize how awesome a mining barge redo would be. Reconceive them along the lines of the Noctis, Rorqual and Venture for maximum win. Leave the Orca alone, though. |

marVLs
56
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:57:00 -
[83] - Quote
Complete Remodels: All T2 ships that don't already have them need unique models -Dominix -Typhoon -Rupture -Bellicose -Moa -Griffin -Helios -Bestower -Badger -Mining barges -Phoenix -Harbinger -Prophecy -Ferox -Caracal -Blackbird -Osprey -Vexor -Thorax -Exequror -Celestis -Scythe -Heron -Condor -Bantam -Maulus -Burst -Slasher -Vigil
Touch ups(better skins and upgrade like new Megathron): -Maelstrom -Raven -Rokh -Armageddon -All capitals -Industrials -Cormorant -Coercer -Tormentor -Inquisitor
More moving parts on ships! Mining ships should have moving parts only when mining, not all the time... |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
59
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
We need forum polls  |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:27:00 -
[85] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If any artist even considers looking at the Omen, many people will hunt him down mercilessly.
I absolutely love the Omen. |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:34:00 -
[86] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Every sci fi has to have it's ugly ships. Anything Klingon, for example. Look at it this way: consider the starships designers of New Eden in parallel with car designers of the real world (I know, another "RL" comparison - sue me). The Subaru WRX is one of the ugliest cars on the road, but it goes harder than most others in its class. Ferrari could use a facelift, too. Lamborghini's look gorgeous, but they're too heavy and cumbersome for any real performance applications. Yes, I am aware that they race them, but the Nissans are the ones that are winning the GT1s.
If every ship was beautiful, there would be no art. There would be no comparison. And on that note, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - one man's Maserati is another man's eyesore (it's my favourite Italian maker, tbh, but I'll admit they don't even come close to the gorgeousness of an Alfa Romeo, which by the way WILL fall apart the moment you touch it).
I like all the ships the way they are. I like the changes that were made to the Mega and the Vaga and the others, and I liked their old models too. I like the ugly ships, even the Moa, because without them, we would have no appreciation for the gorgeous ones like the Talos and the Hyperion. You may disagree that these are good looking ships, but you're making part of my point for me by doing that - what I find gorgeous, you might find ugly. And it's why any serious overhalls of ship design should not be made.
Perhaps a tweak here and there to update ships, like with the Mega - sure, it looks different now, but all in all, it's still the same size, and general shape, and I think that's important. This is original art we're talking about here, and so would be a new Moa, more than likely, but changing it would only demean the artwork that makes EVE unique.
This. |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:37:00 -
[87] - Quote
TharOkha wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game.  Actualy... Omen is one of a few asymetric ships that looks fantastic Also this As I posted above, don't do any major overhauls. And don't you touch my Omen! |

Kagumichan
Deorbit Burners Session Change In Progress Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:50:00 -
[88] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game. 
I'm with this guy, compared to the Omen, all other cruisers look small and puny. Now if only more people would start flying one, Eve would become 20% sexier 
As for ships that need changing, yeah pretty much all Cadari cruisers need to loose their random legobrick design. I know they were designed based on birds, but damn those are some ugly birds!
Also, DON'T TOUCH THE MALEDICTION!!!!! Unless you're gonna add more engines on the back, that'd be fine >.>' |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
9
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:14:00 -
[89] - Quote
Right, okay, so I'm not 100% in favor of any major overhauls/complete redesigns of many ships, which is why the topic asks about "Touch-ups" particularly, however, some of the minmatar ships I believe could do with a remodelling.
There are definitely some great-looking ships that also look rag-tag and not really high-tech. I get that Minnie is supposed to be like that, and that's awesome. But just because it's rag-tag or on limited resources doesn't mean the vessel had to have been designed by a complete idiot engineer. The Minmatar are brilliant at adapting on limited resources -- some of the best engineers around have to come from there now, right? So, honestly, how did the Bellicose happen? That thing is like my little brother's structurally unsound Lego creations that can snap with a wee little jab at it. |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:23:00 -
[90] - Quote
Karrde Belarr wrote: So, honestly, how did the Bellicose happen? That thing is like my little brother's structurally unsound Lego creations that can snap with a wee little jab at it. But all minnie ships can snap with a wee little jab! |

Bandalon Ominus
5ER3NITY INC Apocalypse Now.
2
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:00:00 -
[91] - Quote
EVE Online has some very nice graphics and designs, and I think we can all agree that generally the ships look great
An issue with graphics in video games has always been that when you zoom in they become blurred. This even happens with modern (PC) games
As for EVE, this issue has been extensively discussed in this topic : 'Ultra High Texture Pack' : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39174
However, I doubt that for the texture blurring on ships in EVE an ultra high texture pack is really necessary. An easier solution to this is 'multi texturing' or 'detail texturing'
Detail texturing / Multitexturing has many benefits, the two most important are: - It's very low on resource - It's very effective
See for some examples and how they could work great in EVE http://udn.epicgames.com/Two/DetailTexture.html http://blogs.msdn.com/b/shawnhar/archive/2008/11/03/detail-textures.aspx
A great example of how this improved quality (e.g. for the Avatar) can be seen here in the 'EVE Ships size comparison' video on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0O3Xl6a4wc
I hope that we see this improvement in EVE |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
142
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:12:00 -
[92] - Quote
moa, rag Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

John Nucleus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
The crucifier and sentinel looks like they have hull pieces missing. Like if the ship was sent out to war before it was completed...
The Dragoon needs more bite. It looks like some boring transport ship now. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
The Badger needs hand painted flames on the front and a bumper sticker that reads "Keep on Truckin'" imho...
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Galaxy Pig
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
262
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Posted - 2012.12.11 06:10:00 -
[95] - Quote
Caracal Condor
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Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
99
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Posted - 2012.12.11 07:16:00 -
[96] - Quote
Just my opinion here...
Atron (http://i.imgur.com/jEICv.jpg) Imicus (http://i.imgur.com/VlKnO.jpg) Navitas (http://i.imgur.com/xF0i5.jpg) Celestis (Gallente focus on organic shapes, the brutix and hyperion are good balances of that - this is not) Exequror (Another poor example of organic mixed poorly with mechancial, mostly just tacked on engines) Dominix (I've always viewed this ship as flying cancer) Iteron (Never liked the way this ship looked)
Opus Luxury Yacht (Blech)
Tormentor (Too much like the inquisitor) Crucifier (http://i.imgur.com/019zE.jpg) Armaggedon (Nothing wrong with this ship but it could use a modernization) Bestower
Griffin (Doesn't 'pop' Caldari style) Bantam (Too blocky for Caldari style) Moa (Sickening)
Burst (Flying armor plating?) Slasher (Good design but could use some modernization) Scythe (Looks a little odd by comparison of other Minmatar styles) Rupture (Same as above) Typhoon (DRASTIC change in style from other Minmatar designs) Hoarder (Flying block with solar panels) |

MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
139
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Posted - 2012.12.11 10:23:00 -
[97] - Quote
Vexor hulls need the smiley face back, it was stolen with V3 
As for ugly? Celestis, Leviathan and Osprey. "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom." |

poppeteer
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
Mega/Kronos/Vindi really need a touch up. Preferably back to how they were. |

Jacob Mordecai
Ordo Mercuia
3
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:34:00 -
[99] - Quote
Bring back old vargur. At least its old solar panel wings... |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
188
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:36:00 -
[100] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Aralieus wrote:The omen is missing its other stubbly wing If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game.  The Thorax has a pen*s on it's forehead. Your argument is invalid. |

Mackie Rebogio
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
Tarn Kugisa wrote: plz don't change the scorpion It's probably the best looking caldari ship other than the ferox why do the best looking caldari ships suck ass at anything combat related?
pretty sure they wouldnt touch the scorpion as its already had a major rework. do you remember the old scorpion? it was the ugliest ship.
also, the brawler ferox isnt bad. |

Malia Terres
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:17:00 -
[102] - Quote
The chicken with a briefcase aka Moa The fleshlight aka Typhoon The pirate ship aka Rupture
Anything that immediately makes you think of something non-starship.
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Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
99
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:31:00 -
[103] - Quote
Will forever see the Typhoon as a fleshlight now. Originally thought of it as a vacuum cleaner attachment. |

Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:42:00 -
[104] - Quote
if you watch the videos that contain an Incursus that CCP puts out, it looks really interesting. Space motorbike. Then you undock one, and it's got neat parts attached to a cardboard box in the middle. Could you detail that cube on the inside with a bit more form? |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
15
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:42:00 -
[105] - Quote
Nomistrav wrote: Tormentor (Too much like the inquisitor)
Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, it hasn't been touched in a long time, has it? I'm not sure. |

Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes Test Friends Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:51:00 -
[106] - Quote
Name Family Name wrote:From an aesthetic POV, I have to agree that the new Tempest/Stabber models look better than they used to, however, they look far too clean and hightech now.
Minmatar ships were supposed to look like some insurgents taped them together from debris - now they look more slick and hightech than any other race.
That was in the past.
In the present the Minmatar race is the supreme race. We have the technology. We have the weapons. We have the ships.
:)
But, seriously, it is about time that Minmatar start updating their ship designs. They aren't 'some insurgents' anymore.
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Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
15
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:57:00 -
[107] - Quote
Fractal Muse wrote:Name Family Name wrote:From an aesthetic POV, I have to agree that the new Tempest/Stabber models look better than they used to, however, they look far too clean and hightech now.
Minmatar ships were supposed to look like some insurgents taped them together from debris - now they look more slick and hightech than any other race.
That was in the past. In the present the Minmatar race is the supreme race. We have the technology. We have the weapons. We have the ships. :) But, seriously, it is about time that Minmatar start updating their ship designs. They aren't 'some insurgents' anymore.
Agreed. They're a Republic. Fledgling still maybe, but they're getting their story together. In Rust We Trust may still be the motto, but the rust should be getting a little more polished by this point maybe. :) |

BoBoZoBo
MGroup9 Quantum Cafe
124
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:39:00 -
[108] - Quote
Carrier and all caps could use a massive detail bump, and maybe a scale up. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
105
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:49:00 -
[109] - Quote
Colt Blackhawk wrote:PLZ PLZ PLZ do sth with the Hookbill! It is probably the most ugly ship in game. Followed by the Blackbird.
The hookbill says it's supposed to look ugly in it's description  wumbo |

Jessica Danikov
Ubuntu Inc. Varangon Tagma
17
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:01:00 -
[110] - Quote
I, for one, like a large number of the asymmetric ships in the game- why have both sides the same? Why not have something interesting to see from either side? No?
Well, a lot of the symmetric ones look good too, I can appreciate that. Just leave something in for the both of us.
Ok... ships that need some love...
Rokh is the top of my list. I stare at a texture seam every time I look at that ship and wonder how the artist missed that and how ashamed they must feel for their shoddy work. That, or frustrated that they couldn't fix it- either way, Rokh needs love.
Dominix, poor thing. I understand where they were trying to go with the model, but of all the old models, you have aged the worst. You need some love, and soon. Same goes for a lot of the Gallente line... the curvy plastic/organic approach just aged poorly.
Bellicose (and deriratives). I'm sure some of those who fly you have come to love you, but you have a literal engine block and... bizarre wings that just look wrong. I'd love to see an innovative interpretation of you, but as you are right now is offensive to my eyes.
Rattlesnake. I'm sorry, but I loved the old Scorpion's bizarre, lopsided form and I'd quite happily settle for the new Scorpion with one 'arm' ripped off- I appreciate not wanting to afflict all EVE players with it, so just treat the faction variant of it. Speaking of faction...
Worm, Gila, Vigilant, Bhaalgorn, Rattlesnake, Vindicator. Alas, the Vindicator in the most recent patch has the most beautiful skin, but these are all faction ships, and all the other faction ships got their own, fantastically unique models? Why not these? I've already given you an idea for the Rattlesnake, I'm sure you can think of something for the others...
After that? Be nice to see the T2 ships getting some more love- something to make them more unique and stand out in their role. Always thought the other hictors got the short end of the stick compared to the Phobos. More spinny gravity wells please. |

Jhan Niber
Big Johnson's Tribal Band
13
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:03:00 -
[111] - Quote
In order of worst looks to best overall I think it should go Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr.
I'm fine with asymmetry on Caldari. The Corax is asymmetrical and looks great, but the Moa and Blackbird are too overboad, whereas the Raven's is just fine, I just don't like the engines and cockpit on the Raven from any of its designs. The other that I feel could really use attention is the Typhoon and I think it could really benefit from design cues from Battlestar Galactica. Those are what I'd deem the "urgent" ships.
The only other thing I'd like to see fixed soon is the cockeyed bridge on the Punisher. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1637
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:28:00 -
[112] - Quote
Aeon model and a complete rescale in size for all capital ships.
and no! dont touch my pretty Rokh! :3 How to : Playing Eve 100% Risk and Conflict FREE! |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
15
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:40:00 -
[113] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:Aeon model and a complete rescale in size for all capital ships.
and no! dont touch my pretty Rokh! :3
Why would people have anything against the Rokh? :o
I think the one consensus is that the Omen need not be touched. And the Rifter. God, that sexy rifter. And anything that looks rusty or asymmetrical is up for grabs. :P Not an ideal "brush-up" pool exactly. |

Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:14:00 -
[114] - Quote
Hyperion- Looks like someone odd combination of a science project gone wrong, and Joe Dirt's Asteroid.
Dominix- Just looks bad, potato-esque in size, shape and if moldy, color. Moldy Potato is oddly fitting.
Apocalypse- Looks like a bananna/vibrator mash-up gone awry. I understand the Amarr and all their religious zealotry flying space dongues is some kind of poetic irony, but seriously...
Raven - is just meh, for the Caldari Mission Runner line ship of choice... it's just not impressive
Moa and Osprey are both so overwhelmingly awful, that you can include all variants of these hulls as ugly.
Celestis is surprisingly un-gallente looking in general. It looks similar to a fat variant of the old nemesis, just more silly.
Scythe is just odd looking, brick with spiky bits and wings jutting out at odd angles.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2226
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:49:00 -
[115] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:If the omen had both its wings, it would by FAR be the best looking ship in game.
Symmetrical is ugly. The Omen and the Coercer are beautiful ships.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Zak'eni
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 08:51:00 -
[116] - Quote
The worst (best?) part about the Moa is that you can see a really awesome looking ship if you kinda squint, then close your eyes and think of something completely different.
That awkward, offset neck, that strange side pod, those long engines... there's assymmetrical, and then there's the Moa.
Caracal could do with a check-up too. |

Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
149
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Posted - 2012.12.12 09:34:00 -
[117] - Quote
Do NOT touch my potato king!
Hyperion could probably use some love as well as the evermentioned Moa. And definitely bigger thrusters on the Badger. |

McRoll
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
52
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Posted - 2012.12.12 09:49:00 -
[118] - Quote
Fix the Moa and Osprey finally. It is embarassing to look at since the T3 and new destroyers were introduced and various other ships remodelled. It looked awful in 2003 even. |

Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
691
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:06:00 -
[119] - Quote
The Raven is perfect as is, but I would like another version. Call it the Raven Mk. II. It looks exactly like the regular Raven except it's twice the size and has the words "F*** YO SHIP. I'M AWESOME" written on the side of the hull by default. CCP nerfed me because my body was too boobylicious. |

Diesel47
painkiller.
323
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:17:00 -
[120] - Quote
Baby ChuChu wrote:The Raven is perfect as is, but I would like another version. Call it the Raven Mk. II. It looks exactly like the regular Raven except it's twice the size and has the words "F*** YO SHIP. I'M AWESOME" written on the side of the hull by default.
No it isn't.
Go to the eye doctor pls. |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
107
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:17:00 -
[121] - Quote
Jacob Mordecai wrote:Bring back old vargur. At least its old solar panel wings...
NO wumbo |

Shajden
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 11:43:00 -
[122] - Quote
asymmetric ships can be beuitful but i dunno, something in my mind isnt just "right" when there is something obvious asymmetric :P
If i flew an omen all i would think off all day is like a dog running around with 1 leg missing :(
To which ships id like see a overhaul is, well ofc the moa, but tbh ive learned to identify this ship as just being a brutal design not focused on grace in space.
Rupture and Dominix some ppl mentioned aswell but even though they seem ugly, they serve the point of idea behind a drone ship.
As a caldari pilot my self though, ive yet to understand the vacuumer/spider look of the osprey :O |

Darenthul
SUPERIOR RESOURCES
79
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Posted - 2012.12.12 13:19:00 -
[123] - Quote
Tempest and Rupture so much..
I refuse to even pilot the Tempest, its ugly as sin and there's too many things derived from it. I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same. - [url]http://tinyurl.com/a3geb8v[/url] |

Nukleanis
Falcon Advanced Industries
16
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:03:00 -
[124] - Quote
The open space at the front of the Arbitrator (and by extension, the Curse and Pilgrim) should be converted into a more obvious drone bay. After all, CCP did pretty well with the drone bays on the Algos. |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
76
|
Posted - 2012.12.12 17:58:00 -
[125] - Quote
Now that T1 frigs are viable and fun to play, I would appreciate a redesign of the bantam.
Nobody can look at this ship and say that everything is fine >_< *Yelling "Manticooore !" on teamspeak* |

Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
143
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:05:00 -
[126] - Quote
Karrde Belarr wrote:Berendas wrote:Capitals need to be scaled up in size, they are far too visually underwhelming for their strength. I agree with this and, oddly enough, I am of the opinion that there should be larger stations. I mean when was the last time you actually felt like Jita 4-4 was big enough to be the trade hub it seems? Shouldn't there be a feeling of awe you get as you warp up to it? How do all those ships fit on the undock? (Hint: They don't! :P) A new, improved, much larger Jita 4-4 would make a lot of sense and add a ton of flavor. Trade hub stations ought to have grown in size more. :) So say in Rens, Dodixie, and Amarr maybe too. That Emperor Family Academy sure is used for a lot more than schooling, yet it remains one of the smaller Amarr stations. EDIT: The scale of anything is hard for me to really get into well just because it's difficult to experience it in the game. When you're flying something large and you zoom in on something small it seems to be there, but when flying something small the only way you can really get a sense of scale is by centering on something large and looking at yourself as the small ship around it -- not by centering on yourself and feeling the sense of something giant looming over you. Not exactly something up for "fixing" as I don't even know how you'd begin to approach something like that, but just an observation. How much would scaling up capitals change the perception of them to smaller vessels?
NLIPs non linear scaling is used to give a good sense of scale regardless of camera position and zoom, is used in homeworld games to a very good degree of efectiveness. |

Aracimia Wolfe
The Cursed Navy
117
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:08:00 -
[127] - Quote
The only ships I really don't like the look of is the Dominix, but tbh I think a consensus opinion is not going to be easy to find, I want to punch everyone who mentioned the Moa by default for example.
Two winged omen would be sweet though I like my coffee like I like my men. In a plastic cup http://aracimia.blogspot.co.uk/ |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
922
|
Posted - 2012.12.12 19:16:00 -
[128] - Quote
Improve the texture resolution on the Raven. Add two more dedicated launcher hardpoints to the main hull, so navy issue ravens don't have wingtip launchers. |

Angang Ostus
Shooting Red Crosses
7
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Posted - 2012.12.13 04:26:00 -
[129] - Quote
Cyclone looks really low-res painted over. Needs more detail like the Rupture. Imicus is maaaaaybe an acquired taste for some....but I think Gallente explorers/scouts deserve something more pleasing to look at. Celestis needs more detail, less blockyness. |

Lina Alar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2489
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Posted - 2012.12.13 04:38:00 -
[130] - Quote
Drones. Please make them shoot out of their guns. An explanation of Eve socialization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTbgvYPVdXE Lick with your mainGäó |

Gal'o Sengen
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:14:00 -
[131] - Quote
DOM-I-NIX. It doesn't need a "touch up" so much as a complete redesign. Give it a more Aircraft Carrier look, give it anything, just something that isn't a Potato.
Rupture too. It's just ugly, especially the protrusion that look like a Wang, which just so happens to be half way between the "leg" and the Smiley face.
I actually like the Moa strangely. It grew on me. |

Rotten Corndog
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:17:00 -
[132] - Quote
Moa needs a wrecking ball instead of touch-ups, but yeah, give the Moa some lov'n. |

Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
99
|
Posted - 2012.12.13 05:37:00 -
[133] - Quote
My entire issue with the Dominix is that, from a manufacturing standpoint, it just seems like so much time/effort to have that many unnecessary curvatures. I mean - think about what you have to do in order to make that shape.
A.) You have to super heat the metal so that it's malleable and then bend it to that position. B.) You have to make a mold of that shape with which the metals are formed.
Just seems like a lot of unnecessary work by comparison to, say, the Megathron which has mostly flat surfaces. I get that Gallente go for an organic feel and honestly I like it, but the Dominix (and the Celestis) just look fracking bizarre compared to everything else.
Duvolle Labs making the Nemesis look as sick as it does makes sense. Roden coming up with the Enyo? Hell yeah.
So it makes absolutely no sense to me that both of these companies would manufacture models of the Celestis in the way that they do as bizarre of a hull that it is.
Creodrone... yeah, I get that much.. Helios/Sin... Just makes sense that they'd do some off the wall **** like that... |

Eight Two
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:41:00 -
[134] - Quote
Moa/Gila. Seriously. It looks like a disgruntled briefcase holder had a incestuous relationship with a bird.
Caracal. Best example of taking a sleek, fast looking design... then adding a staircase and a flipped U at the back of it.
Bantam, Griffin, Kitsune, see Moa. Obviously that disgrunteled briefcaseholder had a lot of weird relationships.
Typhoon + Variants. Looks like a trashcan with engines. Actually, trashcans look better. Also, last time I checked Panthers were in fact not trashcans. Do not try this at home kids.
Dominix. Someone seems to have digestion problems. Note to CCP: We do not want to fly what comes out of your glorious behinds after the morning coffee.
Condor/Badger could use some love as well.
Succubus. See Dominix. No, we don't even want to fly small pieces of poo.
Brutix: We also don't want to fly poo that has been stretched into a different shape than regular poo.
Hookbill. This one could look so awesome if you only cut the nose and moved the launchers to a less stick-out position.
Imicus. What is this, I don't even...?
Ospery/Basilisk. See Imicus.
Blackbird. What exactly is holding this thing together at speeds greater than 3mil km/s?
Emergent Locus Analyzers for T3. So bonuses to probes and assorted launchers does have to look ugly, huh? Exception: Legion - Mini Avatar.
Caldari Shuttle: The smaller the uglier. Adding glow to the cockpit didn't help. Really.
Arbitrator Hull: Improved drone bay and maybe a straight hull on the nose section.
Thorax, see Arby hull, that thing would look so awesome if the hull was straight. (Inb4 it's not gay!)
Hoarder. I am not even sure what it should resemble?
Raven: Could use a massive texture rework. The better Eve's graphics get the more it looks out of place. Same for CNR.
The Caps mentioned so far would be a good choice for a redesign however:
Wyvern. Note to designer: If it's not evident where the front is when the engines are off, it's probably a bad design. The Leviathan is a good guidline on how to do it.
Also: Erebus and Moros, which side is up?
I appreciate the designers trying to give us ships that look alien in shape but too much is never a good thing. Please, we're supposed to look at that for hours. Take the Coercer for example, the Stabber, the Algos.
They look awesome in that they're alien enough to set the mood but believable to be actually created by humans. Not by some weird force int he universe randomly forming polygons until it looks ugly enough. Or even worse, created by a disgruntled briefcaseholder having ... well you get the idea.
A complete hull rework patch/ small things improvements for the next expansion would be something worth doing to please both PvP and PvEers |

Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.12.13 06:11:00 -
[135] - Quote
The thing that got to me was that I had flown caldari awhile long ago and gone "OK, so fashion of the era is big on asymmetrical, i'm good with that", but then the new clothes came out and they're symmetrical.
Still, the incursus needs help, even if it's not "ugly" so much as under developed. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ncKTo_fI4 at 1:10. What is that? Is that supposed to be... an Incursus? Then why does the one in my hangar look so much like something that a grade schooler made out of a cardboard box and some cardboard tubes? |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
114
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Posted - 2012.12.13 06:45:00 -
[136] - Quote
Agromos nulKaedi wrote:The thing that got to me was that I had flown caldari awhile long ago and gone "OK, so fashion of the era is big on asymmetrical, i'm good with that", but then the new clothes came out and they're symmetrical. Still, the incursus needs help, even if it's not "ugly" so much as under developed. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ncKTo_fI4 at 1:10. What is that? Is that supposed to be... an Incursus? Then why does the one in my hangar look so much like something that a grade schooler made out of a cardboard box and some cardboard tubes? I'd like the Imicus a bit better if the "melted chocolate bar" look looked a bit more "angled" and less "lol I left my chocolate in the sun".
Incursus eh? You really must be new here if you don't know it's a proteus. wumbo |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1952
|
Posted - 2012.12.13 07:14:00 -
[137] - Quote
Those snot rockets, better known as the Imicus and the Celestis, really need some help off of planet Ugly.
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Ra'Shyne Viper
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
15
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Posted - 2012.12.13 07:14:00 -
[138] - Quote
All dreads(minus minmatar)(add a pirate faction dread), all carriers(minus minmatar) all titans (minus avatar)(i feel like somethings missing from the levy)
mostly all ships atm need a little love
I love what you guys did with the Stealth bombers("same hull" completely different loooking ship.) which makes it looks like the t2 ship is an UPGRADE of the t1 hull and not just some cheap reskin.
i believe all t2 ships need an upgraded look from their t1 counter part to make it appear it's actually an upgraded ship.
I also believe there are a few plain hulls that need some extra love( the most obvious moa.)
comparing the designs of the ships with the older and newer, the newer ships don't fit in with the older. they stick out.
Also, if you're going to add the npc logos on the ships, add them to the rest. |

Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
99
|
Posted - 2012.12.13 07:57:00 -
[139] - Quote
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:All dreads(minus minmatar)(add a pirate faction dread), all carriers(minus minmatar) all titans (minus avatar)(i feel like somethings missing from the levy)
mostly all ships atm need a little love
I love what you guys did with the Stealth bombers("same hull" completely different loooking ship.) which makes it looks like the t2 ship is an UPGRADE of the t1 hull and not just some cheap reskin.
i believe all t2 ships need an upgraded look from their t1 counter part to make it appear it's actually an upgraded ship.
I also believe there are a few plain hulls that need some extra love( the most obvious moa.)
comparing the designs of the ships with the older and newer, the newer ships don't fit in with the older. they stick out.
Also, if you're going to add the npc logos on the ships, add them to the rest.
Probably going to be more subtle differences rather than drastic ones like we saw with the Stealth Bombers.
Reason I say this is because most T2 variants only have the most remote of changes. The new Tempest/Vargur model for instance having different solar panels, the new Stabber/Vagabond with the Vagabond actually -having- solar panels.
Shame really. Wouldn't mind the Kronos looking a bit more sinister than it's Megathron counterpart. |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
695
|
Posted - 2012.12.13 08:19:00 -
[140] - Quote
Gallente shuttles. EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |

Makavi Astro
Legion Of Idiots legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
4
|
Posted - 2012.12.14 22:01:00 -
[141] - Quote
Eight Two wrote:Moa/Gila. Seriously. It looks like a disgruntled briefcase holder had a incestuous relationship with a bird.
Caracal. Best example of taking a sleek, fast looking design... then adding a staircase and a flipped U at the back of it.
Bantam, Griffin, Kitsune, see Moa. Obviously that disgrunteled briefcaseholder had a lot of weird relationships.
Typhoon + Variants. Looks like a trashcan with engines. Actually, trashcans look better. Also, last time I checked Panthers were in fact not trashcans. Do not try this at home kids.
Dominix. Someone seems to have digestion problems. Note to CCP: We do not want to fly what comes out of your glorious behinds after the morning coffee.
Condor/Badger could use some love as well.
Succubus. See Dominix. No, we don't even want to fly small pieces of poo.
Brutix: We also don't want to fly poo that has been stretched into a different shape than regular poo.
Hookbill. This one could look so awesome if you only cut the nose and moved the launchers to a less stick-out position.
Imicus. What is this, I don't even...?
Ospery/Basilisk. See Imicus.
Blackbird. What exactly is holding this thing together at speeds greater than 3mil km/s?
Emergent Locus Analyzers for T3. So bonuses to probes and assorted launchers does have to look ugly, huh? Exception: Legion - Mini Avatar.
Caldari Shuttle: The smaller the uglier. Adding glow to the cockpit didn't help. Really.
Arbitrator Hull: Improved drone bay and maybe a straight hull on the nose section.
Thorax, see Arby hull, that thing would look so awesome if the hull was straight. (Inb4 it's not gay!)
Hoarder. I am not even sure what it should resemble?
Raven: Could use a massive texture rework. The better Eve's graphics get the more it looks out of place. Same for CNR.
The Caps mentioned so far would be a good choice for a redesign however:
Wyvern. Note to designer: If it's not evident where the front is when the engines are off, it's probably a bad design. The Leviathan is a good guidline on how to do it.
Also: Erebus and Moros, which side is up?
I appreciate the designers trying to give us ships that look alien in shape but too much is never a good thing. Please, we're supposed to look at that for hours. Take the Coercer for example, the Stabber, the Algos.
They look awesome in that they're alien enough to set the mood but believable to be actually created by humans. Not by some weird force int he universe randomly forming polygons until it looks ugly enough. Or even worse, created by a disgruntled briefcaseholder having ... well you get the idea.
A complete hull rework patch/ small things improvements for the next expansion would be something worth doing to please both PvP and PvEers
So true, listen to that guy |

Escomboli
Hammer Holding Wrong Hole.
16
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Posted - 2012.12.14 22:17:00 -
[142] - Quote
The proteus needs a complete rework on all systems. It either looks like a hand held vacuum, or a motorcycle out of biker mice from mars.... |
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